[10:53] <lubot> [telegram] <Rodrigo> I will,. thanks (re @teward001: remove universe from the partner repos line.)
[19:29] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, because installer didn't do that
[19:30] <cristian_c> (I've just installed into previous ext4 partitin)
[19:30] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, any ideas?
[19:34] <diogenes_Vx15> cristian_c, do i know you?
[20:09] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, I don't know, you've replied to my question
[20:10] <cristian_c> you've replied about grub's question
[20:19] <diogenes_Vx15> cristian_c, i don't remember sorry, it must have been long time ago.
[20:20] <cristian_c> less than 24 hours
[20:22] <diogenes_Vx15> i am in many chats and reply to many messages that's why 24h to reply to a message is too much time to remember.
[20:23] <cristian_c> I've made a new installation of lubuntu 23.10 with a ia32 uefi. Of course, I've not installed grub/bootloader and I can't boot lubuntu if I don't install that properly. I've made several attempts but I don't know how troubleshooting this stuff. Any ideas?
[20:24] <diogenes_Vx15> cristian_c, you should install grub when you reinstall the system.
[20:43] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, I've already installed the system
[20:44] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, but I can't boot that if I don't install bootloader properly
[20:44] <diogenes_Vx15> cristian_c, then you have 2 options,  either reinstall or chroot.
[20:44] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, as I said, when I installed the system, it didn't install the bootloader too
[20:44] <cristian_c> it needed an efi partition
[20:45] <cristian_c> I tried to install the bootloader to a different efi partition to the builtin storage
[20:46] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, I've already tried to install bootloader in chroot from live OS
[20:46] <cristian_c> the issue is that I don't know exactly how to install that properly, since I can't boot anyway
[20:47] <cristian_c> because uefi it's not trivial as you can think
[20:47] <cristian_c> (considering lubuntu was installed on the sdcard, with the bootloader installed on the mmc storage)
[20:47] <diogenes_Vx15> that's the key word 'properly' it's not enough to just install but to install properly and you just let installer do it's job because the installer would install the system and the bootloader for you.
[20:49] <wxl> reading the manual helps too https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.3/installation.html?highlight=efi#manual-partitioning
[20:50] <cristian_c> diogenes_Vx15, but it doesn't in that case
[20:51] <cristian_c> wxl, that option is disabled
[20:51] <wxl> you have the swap mounted? that's discussed in the manual too
[20:52] <cristian_c> wxl, no
[20:52] <wxl> are you sure?
[20:52] <cristian_c> yes
[20:52] <wxl> how?
[20:52] <cristian_c> there was just an ext4 partition on the sdcard
[20:53] <wxl> what was on it?
[20:53] <cristian_c> wxl, no swap partitions have been created
[20:53] <wxl> i didn't ask about that
[20:53] <cristian_c> wxl, the ext4 partition included lubuntu 22.04.3
[20:53] <arraybolt3> Lubntu uses a swapfile, not a swap partition.
[20:54] <wxl> which had a swap file
[20:54] <arraybolt3> So if you have a Lubuntu 22.04.3 ext4 partition, that may very well have a swapfile.
[20:54] <wxl> and by default, the swap file will be mounted
[20:54] <wxl> which will cause you to do manual partitioning
[20:54] <wxl> again this is covered in the manual https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.3/installation.html#setting-up-partitions
[20:59] <cristian_c> wxl, sudo swapoff -a changes nothing
[20:59] <cristian_c> manual partitiining is the only option to be shown
[21:00] <cristian_c> *partitioning
[21:04] <wxl> was that partition a bios setup or a efi one?
[21:04] <wxl> assumedly a bios one given that you only mention one partition, no?
[21:05] <cristian_c> wxl, if you talk about ext4 partition that was the root partition
[21:05] <cristian_c> now, in place of that there is an ext4 partition with 23.10 installed
[21:05] <wxl> it wasn't an efi installation, right?
[21:05] <cristian_c> wxl, it's an efi instalaltion
[21:05] <wxl> the previous one was?
[21:06] <cristian_c> yes
[21:07] <wxl> well then that's strange
[21:07] <wxl> i'd just delete the partitions and start over
[21:07] <cristian_c> wxl, ok, but it didn't solve the issue
[21:08] <wxl> it will if you do it
[21:08] <cristian_c> I mean, if I delete the ext4 partition I can't still solve the bootloader issue
[21:08] <wxl> there's a lot of caveats when trying to install with a previous install
[21:08] <wxl> if there's no such thing, then you don't need to do manual partitioning and the installer will automatically resolve the bootloader
[21:08] <cristian_c> wxl, I've choose to format ext4 when I installed 23.10
[21:09] <cristian_c> *I choose
[21:09] <cristian_c> *I chose
[21:09] <wxl> irrelevant
[21:12] <cristian_c> wxl, when I select the storage where to install to, I see just the manual partitioning
[21:12] <cristian_c> the option to format/delete the partition is on the next screen
[21:12] <cristian_c> wxl, maybe, do you mean deleting the partition out of installer?
[21:12] <wxl> do the deletions outside the installer
[21:12] <wxl> yep
[21:13] <cristian_c> (before running the installer)
[21:14] <cristian_c> wxl, it seems the sdcard with ext4 partition has msdos partition table (as kde partition manager says)
[21:15] <cristian_c> wxl, should I change also partition table?
[21:15] <cristian_c> to gpt
[21:16] <wxl> might not be a bad idea
[21:17] <cristian_c> when creating ext4, permissions -> only root as default
[21:21] <cristian_c> wxl, I get four option when selecting the sdcard storage in the lubuntu installer
[21:22] <cristian_c> the manual doesn't explain what is the proper way to do that
[21:23] <cristian_c> wxl, I've chosen to erase the disk but it doesn't solve to issue to install the bootloader to a different partition
[21:24] <cristian_c> *it doesn't solve the issue
[21:25] <wxl> the only explanation for that i'm aware of is that you booted in bios mode
[21:26] <cristian_c> wxl, there is no bios mode for this machine
[21:26] <cristian_c> it just supports only efi mode
[21:28] <cristian_c> wxl, and the installer shows 'EFI' in the top-left
[21:29] <cristian_c> * 'EFI' icon in the top-left and 'GPT' icon in the top-right
[21:32] <wxl> then how do you know it doesn't solve the problem?
[21:32] <cristian_c> wxl, because this way I can't choose where to install bootloader
[21:33] <cristian_c> 'Erase disk' decided to install bootloader into sdcard
[21:34] <wxl> which is what it's supposed to do
[21:35] <cristian_c> <cristian_c> I tried to install the bootloader to a different efi partition to the builtin storage
[21:35] <cristian_c> <cristian_c> (considering lubuntu was installed on the sdcard, with the bootloader installed on the mmc storage)
[21:37] <wxl> putting the bootloader on a different storage volume is a pretty advanced thing
[21:37] <wxl> tbh i'm not even 100% sure it will work. never done it and don't know of anyone who's tried
[21:37] <wxl> at that point you're kind of on your own
[21:37] <cristian_c> wxl, the previous installation was done this way
[21:38] <wxl> well i assure you the installer undoubtably did not do it
[21:38] <cristian_c> wxl, the bootloader was installed manually to an efi partition
[21:39] <wxl> then i would do whatever you did before
[21:39] <wxl> if you don't know what it is, i don't think you're going to find much support here for it