[00:20] <hh> hello
[00:32] <mybalzitch> goodbye
[00:44] <goofy_goober> I still havent gotten an answer to my question, what is going on with firefox, i cant open it from desktop, start menu, or the terminal. i really need help, i cant acsess the web
[00:46] <rbox> "i can't open from the terminal" says nothing
[00:47] <oerheks> reinstall the snap perhaps?
[00:47] <goofy_goober> i did what they said originally, i openened the terminal, typed firefox and pressed enter, and nothing
[00:47] <goofy_goober> ill try thx
[00:48] <oerheks> or run proper updates: sudo snap refresh  and try again?
[00:48] <goofy_goober> k
[00:49] <goofy_goober> it says, goofy_goober is not in the sudoers file.
[00:49] <goofy_goober> what doe sthis mean
[00:55] <arraybolt3> goofy_goober: you're using a secondary user account and you didn't give it admin privileges when you created it.
[00:55] <arraybolt3> *or* your system is broken, which hopefully isn't the case.
[00:56] <goofy_goober_> my system isnt broken im using secondary, ill swap to my main, ill let ya know if it works
[00:57] <oerheks> logical, 2nd non-root account cannot update firefox and it blocks itself.
[01:02] <goofy_goober_> yeah i tried my main, the problem is i have no idea how to reinstall snap, ive been using lubuntu for like a day lol
[03:05] <Guest93> I've installed the latest Ubuntu LTS server version (Jammy 22.04.3 LTS) on my Rasp Pi 4B, then installed lubuntu-desktop. Problem I'm having is that xserver doesn't start on reboot. It does start if I open a console and use "startx". "systemctl get-default" returns "graphical.target".
[03:45] <oerheks> Guest93, enable graphical login;
[03:45] <oerheks>  sudo systemctl set-default graphical
[03:45] <oerheks> and to reverse to ttty
[03:45] <oerheks>  sudo systemctl set-default multi-user
[03:47] <guiverc> also asked at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1502162/ubuntu-server-on-raspberry-pi-4b-xserver-wont-start-on-reboot  ( oerheks if using askubu )
[03:55] <bparker> I just use systemctl enable lightdm
[03:56] <oerheks> rasp pi manager seems the way to go
[03:56] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-install-ubuntu-desktop-on-raspberry-pi-4#2-prepare-the-sd-card
[04:22] <Guest93> "sudo systemctl set-default multi-user" remove "graphical.target"?
[04:25] <oerheks> no, it switches to
[04:25] <Guest93> tried this anyway, made no difference. have set back to "graphical.target"
[04:25] <oerheks> ,,,
[04:30] <Guest93> should i start from scratch and install "ubuntu desktop" from the beginning?
[04:33] <Guest93> actually, that installer says 4gb+ only. My Pi has 2gb.
[05:46] <THoRIX> I have a dual boot acer helios laptop (windows is on the nvme, ubuntu on an SSD). Once I boot into Ubuntu my drive works as expected. But once I set my laptop to sleep and wake it back up again the nvme drive power state is set to max rather than the default low power. Anyone come across anything like this?
[05:46] <THoRIX> I can fix the problem by running nvme set-feature /dev/nvme0n1p1 -f 2 -v 4
[05:46] <THoRIX> but i thought this is supposed to be handled by the OS
[06:38] <rip-keyboard> hey guys- dont know if this is the best place to ask but im having issues with the keyboard on my laptop (Ubuntu Desktop 23.10 - fresh install) not working at all - in grub it is fine but once the installer/main os launches there is no input at all. under windows it is just detected as a "generic ps/2 input". i have updated to the latest stable
[06:38] <rip-keyboard> kernels but still no luck. is there a way to troubleshoot this in anyway?
[06:45] <rip-keyboard> if it helps - its a the device is a "INFINITY E15-5A165-BM"
[09:19] <akik> why doesn't ubuntu server 22.04 stop at the grub menu after install when i press left shift?
[09:20] <ogra_> try esc instead ...
[09:20] <ogra_> (IIRC UEFI systems use the ESC key)
[09:22] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[09:23] <akik> why was it changed?
[09:24] <ogra_> ask the BIOS manufaturers ... (i guess shift was taken in UEFI so grub had to pick a new one)
[09:25] <akik> i pressed left shift and nothing happened
[10:20] <akik> i installed the nvidia driver to ubuntu 22.04 and the gui changed from wayland to xorg
[10:20] <akik> how do i fix this back to wayland?
[10:21] <ravage> you tell nvidia to release proper wayland support
[10:22] <akik> oh ok it was my bad. the DE selection in the display manager changed
[10:22] <akik> now there's "ubuntu on wayland"
[10:22] <akik> earlier it was just "ubuntu"
[10:23] <akik> foot terminal works now. i'll try glmark2 next
[10:23] <ravage> yes the driver install may change that because wayland with the nvidia driver is not very stable
[10:23] <akik> ravage: do you have a test case that i can run for wayland+nvidia combo?
[10:23] <ravage> no. i just use Xorg
[10:24] <akik> glmark2-wayland works too
[10:25] <akik> i had to install ubuntu because arch has an old version of xpra
[10:25] <ravage> that must the first time ever someone complained about old software on arch
[10:26] <akik> yea #xpra said 4.4.5 is so old they don't support it and told me not to use it :)
[10:27] <akik> now xpra repo gave me xpra 5.0.4
[10:30] <akik> what am i missing that gnome settings gui says i don't have a wifi adapter, but i'm using one currently
[10:33] <akik> is it because i installed ubuntu server on this pc (the normal installer was unresponsive when it reached the gui)
[10:34] <akik> oh netplan. now i have to learn that too
[10:35] <akik> the wifi password is in there in plain text
[10:44] <magga> ubuntu server keeps crashing during installation. i tried both the LTS and 23.10 :o
[10:44] <magga> doing it from USB
[10:44] <magga> crashes on "removing previous storage devices"
[10:45] <magga> i choose partition, and then the username etc. when i click done there, it just crashes, and i can only restart the installation
[10:45] <magga> :o
[10:49] <magga> https://magnus.dahleide.com/crash_report.zip - this is the logs. dunno if anyone can see whats the problem.
[10:51] <magga> i can enter the terminal from the installation by pressing alt+f2. maybe some magic i can write there
[10:57] <cent> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04, but I cannot find icinga2 due to the "libboost-regex1.74.0" package being unavailable.
[10:58] <cent> Where can I find a repo that provides that?
[11:03] <ravage> cent: https://p.haxxors.com/qp3l6p2l.txt
[11:03] <ravage> fresh lxc jammy container
[11:04] <ravage> make sure you have universe enabled
[11:04] <ravage> but libboost-regex1.74.0 is in main
[11:04] <ravage> did you run apt update?
[11:06] <cent> ravage, all I have in sources.list points to archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. That is correct? Doesn't sound like that.
[11:06] <cent> I was able to upgrade OS packages after install, though.
[11:07] <cent> apt update works as well.
[11:07] <cent> upgrad too.
[11:08] <ravage> archive.ubuntu.com is fine in general
[11:09] <ravage> you should have security.ubuntu.com somewhere
[11:09] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/3ilhg4vu.txt
[11:09] <ravage> this is the sources.list of a lxc container
[11:12] <cent> sources.list:  focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
[11:12] <cent> That was placed there by the installer. No manual update.
[11:13] <ravage> that is Ubuntu 20.04
[11:13] <ravage> you should not start a new install on an old LTS
[11:15] <cent> No. It's 22.04. I instlled a coule of days ago.
[11:15] <cent> No I want to get Icinga2 on it.
[11:16] <cent> I followed the steps at Icinga's Web and got a few packages missing.
[11:17] <cent> From there I ended up with the repo providing required packages, but being unavailable as a default.
[11:17] <ravage> Then you added the repo for the wrong Ubuntu version
[11:17] <ravage> It says focal
[11:17] <ravage> That's 20.04
[11:17] <ravage> Using the wrong repos will mess up the system
[11:19] <ravage> And icinga2 is part of the default 22.04 repos
[11:19] <ravage> Reinstall and try the provided package first before you add anything external
[11:19] <cent> That is so weird. Let me check my other box. That one has not yet been touched by my "Icinga intervention" :)
[11:21] <cent> ravage, Correct. The other boxe's source.list is COMPLETELY different. Let me correct it.
[11:25] <magga> im trying with a old release ubuntu-20.04.6-live-server-amd64.iso now. hoopefully it works :o
[11:26] <tupni> you should use 22.04 really
[11:26] <magga> i cant install it
[11:26] <magga> it crashes after i choose the partition
[11:26] <magga> have tried 10 times now
[11:27] <magga> just want to check if it works with a old
[11:27] <magga> release
[11:27] <cent> ravage, Corrected. I must have messed it up by playing around with instructions at Icinga's WEb.
[11:28] <cent> The package of icinga2 was removed and installed again. Works well. Thanks.
[11:28] <magga> ok this one crashed aswell :o
[11:29] <magga> trying to view the report but it doesnt give me what happend easily
[11:29] <tupni> if you're having hardware problems I feel bad for you son
[11:29] <tupni> sounds like a hardware problem
[11:30] <magga> it already have a proxmox server on it, and works fine
[11:30] <magga> something is making the installation process crash tho
[11:33] <tupni> do you have any weird redundant hardware plugged into the machine while installing; magga ? Should try to de-plug all unneeded connected things during the install process.
[11:34] <magga> i only have my keyboard but i can try a different one tho
[11:34] <magga> i found a traceback python error in the crash report
[11:34] <tupni> ok
[11:34] <magga> it says: ValueError ('%s: not an existing file or block device',
[11:34] <magga> it says: ValueError ('%s: not an existing file or block device', '/dev/pve/sda')
[11:35] <ravage> so you are trying to install a VM?
[11:35] <magga> Command: ['curtin', 'block-meta', 'simple'] Exit code 3
[11:35] <magga> nope
[11:35] <magga> im trying to install it on a SSD disk
[11:35] <ravage> but /dev/pve is proxmox
[11:35] <magga> yeah
[11:35] <magga> i have proxmox there now
[11:36] <magga> but dont want it anymore
[11:36] <magga> just want ubuntu server now
[11:36] <ravage> so this not related to you Ubuntu problem at all
[11:36] <magga> it is?
[11:36] <ravage> if proxmox was on that ssd before
[11:36] <magga> when i choose a partition and click next, the ubuntu server installation process crashes
[11:36] <ravage> wipe it first
[11:36] <ravage> go to a terminal
[11:37] <ravage> wipefs -a /dev/sda
[11:37] <magga> doesnt the installation process wipe for me?
[11:37] <ravage> it seems to still  detect an old LVM
[11:37] <ravage> so clean it before you start the install
[11:37] <magga> alright
[11:38] <magga> should i launch proxmox now then?
[11:38] <magga> and then write that line
[11:38] <ravage> launch the 22.04 live iso
[11:38] <ravage> click "try ubuntu"
[11:38] <ravage> wipe in terminal
[11:38] <ravage> reboot
[11:38] <magga> alright
[11:38] <magga> im downloading from ubuntu now
[11:38] <magga> dunno why its so slow all of a suddne
[11:38] <magga> 14 mins left on 1gbit line :D
[11:39] <ravage> there are plenty of local mirrors including torrents
[11:39] <magga> ah damn it was my connection
[11:39] <magga> im using the "Startup disk creation tool" on my desktop
[11:40] <ravage> yep that should work fine
[11:41] <tupni> here's a norwegian mirror, just in case: - https://no.releases.ubuntu.com/22.04.3/
[11:41] <tupni> i.e. - https://no.releases.ubuntu.com/22.04.3/ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso
[11:42] <ravage> i think on the server iso you dont get the try ubuntu option
[11:42] <magga> how do you know im norwegian ? :D
[11:42] <ravage> not sure if and how you can drop to a shell there
[11:42] <ravage> if you can boot the desktop iso use that to wipe it
[11:42] <tupni> you kind of disclosed it earlier, I can post the desktop iso too; - https://no.releases.ubuntu.com/22.04.3/ubuntu-22.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:42] <magga> ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso
[11:42] <magga> im making a startup disk with this now
[11:43] <ravage> what you need is a root shell before you install and use wipefs
[11:43] <ravage> how does not really matter
[11:43] <tupni> maybe you should use the desktop iso as ravage suggests
[11:44] <ravage> my guess is that alt-f2 works
[11:44] <ravage> to get to another terminal from the server installer
[11:44] <ravage> installer is on 1
[11:44] <tupni> I think it does, but can't remember
[11:45] <magga> ok guys im gonna plug in the usb now and try
[11:45] <tupni> good luck!
[11:45] <magga> whats my plan here.
[11:45] <magga> open the terminal from livecd?
[11:46] <ravage> see above
[11:46] <tupni> yes and then 'wipefs -a /dev/sda' and reboot
[11:47] <ravage> right
[11:47] <magga> i got a little unsure cause you guys were talking about desktop too
[11:47] <magga> im selecting a boot device now. should i choose 'Corsair Voyager 1100' or 'UEFI: Corsair Voyager 1100'
[11:47] <magga> its my usb btw
[11:47] <ravage> yes
[11:48] <ravage> uefi is fine
[11:48] <magga> alright so im inside the GNU GRUB now
[11:48] <magga> Try or install Ubuntu server i sthe first option
[11:48] <magga> i guess thats what i choose
[11:48] <ravage> right
[11:49] <ravage> no idea why the try is there. i boots directly into the installer
[11:49] <magga> :D
[11:49] <magga> alright its showing me alot of random terminal messages
[11:49] <magga> hopefully it will return shortly
[11:49] <magga> to something that makes sense
[11:49] <magga> theres a lot of green [ OK ] so that makes me happy
[11:50] <magga> Wilkommen! Bienvenue!
[11:50] <magga> i can choose language now
[11:51] <ravage> press ctrl-alt-f2 and see if it switches you to a shell
[11:51] <magga> it does
[11:51] <tupni> good
[11:51] <ravage> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:51] <ravage> should show you the device you want to wipe
[11:51] <magga> ah fuck
[11:51] <magga> my keyborad layout is not .no
[11:51] <magga> setxkbmap no?
[11:52] <ravage> loadkeys no
[11:52] <magga> perfect
[11:52] <magga> alright it shows 3 devices
[11:52] <magga> wen i write that command ravage
[11:52] <ravage> if you are sure that device can be completelywiped do it now
[11:53] <magga>  /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3
[11:53] <magga> the first one is BIOS boot, second one is EFI System, and third one is Linux LVM
[11:53] <magga> ravage yeah im 100% sure
[11:53] <ravage> then go for it
[11:54] <ravage> it should show you some output about what it removed
[11:54] <magga> 'sudo wipefs -a /dev/sda'?
[11:54] <magga> i get an error
[11:54] <ravage> no need for sudo
[11:54] <ravage> what error?
[11:54] <magga> wipefs: error: /dev/sda: probing initialization failed: Permission denied
[11:54] <ravage> oh
[11:54] <ravage> are you root?
[11:55] <magga> i tried with sudo too
[11:55] <ravage> i dont know what the terminal drops you to
[11:55] <magga> i couldnt do fdisk without sudo
[11:55] <tupni> try typing 'su -' in the shell
[11:55] <ravage> try "sudo -i"
[11:55] <tupni> or whoami
[11:55] <ravage> then wipefs again
[11:56] <tupni> do as ravage says
[11:56] <magga> wipefs: error: /dev/sda: probing initialization failed: Device or resource busy
[11:56] <magga> after i did sudo -i
[11:56] <ravage> ok so the installer already initialized something
[11:56] <ravage> 1 sec
[11:57] <magga> https://askubuntu.com/questions/926698/wipefs-device-or-resource-busy
[11:57] <magga> wipefs -af /dev/sda
[11:57] <magga> worked
[11:57] <tupni> ah you forced it
[11:58] <tupni> well it should work
[11:58] <ravage> oh nice
[11:58] <tupni> try rebooting now
[11:58] <magga> 8 bytes were erased
[11:58] <magga> Lol
[11:58] <magga> shouldnt i verify first
[11:58] <magga> before boot
[11:58] <ravage> you can do "fdisk -l /dev/sda" again
[11:59] <ravage> but it may need a reboot to read the new partition table
[11:59] <magga> it looks different atleast
[11:59] <magga> so now i do reboot?
[11:59] <magga> 'sudo reboot'?
[11:59] <ravage> then reboot and do the usual installation
[11:59] <ravage> "reboot" is enough now 🙂
[11:59] <magga> z
[11:59] <magga> :D
[12:01] <magga> btw should i choose UEFI?
[12:01] <magga> or just regular
[12:01] <ravage> yes
[12:01] <magga> ok
[12:02] <magga> anyone of you guys have a media server at home in local network?
[12:02] <magga> with *nix server?
[12:06] <magga> btw when selecting the disk
[12:06] <magga> should i cross off "Set up this disk as an LVM group"
[12:07] <magga> and should i encrypt it with LUKS?
[12:07] <ravage> That is a choice you have to make yourself
[12:07] <magga> alright
[12:07] <magga> im gonna not go with that choice now
[12:07] <magga> cause its probably gonna end up biting me
[12:07] <magga> :D
[12:07] <tupni> if you encrypt you'll have to supply the password at each boot/reboot
[12:07] <magga> the LVM group is default however, so i let that be on
[12:08] <tupni> I always encrypt everything, it's a subjective choice really
[12:08] <ravage> Keep in mind the server does a strange thing with LVM
[12:08] <magga> tupni: okay, but other than that. would it make using the system harder?
[12:08] <ravage> You select the whole dist but it will only provision 50%
[12:08] <ravage> So if you want the root filesystem to be 100% you have to resize it later
[12:09] <magga> ok
[12:11] <magga> alright
[12:11] <magga> so it worked guys
[12:11] <magga> i am one step further
[12:11] <magga> thanks alot!
[12:11] <ravage> \o/
[12:11] <magga> im unsure about enabling Ubuntu pro
[12:11] <ravage> does not hurt
[12:11] <ravage> but you dont need to do it during the installation
[12:11] <magga> yeah
[12:11] <magga> i should setup SSh atleast
[12:12] <magga> wow
[12:12] <magga> i can import ssh identify from github
[12:12] <magga> isnt that crazy?
[12:12] <ravage> yep that is a nice feature
[12:12] <magga> does it work tho?
[12:12] <ravage> yes
[12:16] <magga> ok hopefully im soon done with using the keyboard at my server cause its too painful
[12:17] <magga> :D
[12:20] <magga> ok so it didnt work with my github
[12:21] <magga> https://dpaste.com/D47CRWYZH
[12:21] <magga> i just get this when i try to ssh into it
[12:22] <EriC^^> try ssh-keygen -f "/home/lillemagga/.ssh/known_hosts" -R "server"
[12:23] <magga> root@server: Permission denied (publickey).
[12:23] <magga> after i did that
[12:24] <EriC^^> try with sudo magga
[12:24] <magga> https://dpaste.com/4MPQN3KCQ
[12:25] <EriC^^> magga: also do "sudo chown lillemagga: ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/id_rsa"
[12:26] <magga> still getting root@server: Permission denied (publickey).
[12:26] <magga> i guess its somethin to do with my key?
[12:26] <EriC^^> and "sudo chmod 700 ~/.ssh" and "sudo chmod 600 ~/.ssh/id_rsa"
[12:26] <EriC^^> what does "echo ~" give?
[12:26] <EriC^^> you want to do these as your user lillemagga
[12:27] <magga> it gives me /home/lillemagga
[12:27] <EriC^^> ok try the chmod commands
[12:27] <magga> https://dpaste.com/6U5DL4WN9
[12:28] <magga> i guess i can just set up the openssh differently on the server
[12:28] <EriC^^> magga: first exit the root user
[12:28] <EriC^^> and see why known_hosts isnt being created
[12:28] <magga> alright so
[12:28] <EriC^^> then ssh -vvv user@host should show what's happening with the permission stuf
[12:29] <magga> the problem was how i did ssh
[12:29] <magga> my alias was: sshserver='ssh root@server'
[12:29] <magga> changing it to lillemagga@server worked
[12:29] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[12:29] <magga> btw could i ask. how do i know what key it uses?
[12:30] <magga> did it pull it down from github and onto my server?
[12:30] <EriC^^> dunno that depends on what you ran from github, but ssh -vvv should give more info about it while it connects
[12:32] <magga> ok
[12:32] <magga> whats really annoying tho is everytime i do 'ssh lillemagga@server' now it gives me this: i have to verify yes/no/[fingerprint]
[12:32] <EriC^^> yeah cause it's not saving it for some reason
[12:33] <EriC^^> maybe the known_hosts file is owned by root, try ls -l ~/.ssh/
[12:33] <magga> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no/[fingerprint])? yes
[12:33] <magga> Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/lillemagga/.ssh/known_hosts).
[12:33] <magga> client_input_hostkeys: hostkeys_foreach failed for /home/lillemagga/.ssh/known_hosts: Permission denied
[12:33] <magga> alright i try
[12:33] <EriC^^> try as your user 'rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts"
[12:34] <magga> 'ls -l ~/.ssh' gives me: -rw------- 1 lillemagga lillemagga 136 Feb  2 12:17 authorized_keys
[12:34] <magga> rm: cannot remove '/home/lillemagga/.ssh/known_hosts': No such file or directory
[12:34] <EriC^^> aha
[12:35] <EriC^^> hmm
[12:35] <EriC^^> wonder why it's not saving it
[12:35] <magga> https://superuser.com/questions/30087/remove-key-from-known-hosts
[12:35] <magga> should i try this: 'sed -i '6d' ~/.ssh/known_hosts' =
[12:35] <EriC^^> nah the file doesnt even exist
[12:35] <magga> yeah right
[12:36] <EriC^^> can you create files there as your user? try "touch ~/.ssh/blabla"
[12:36] <qwertyttyert> What's the difference between kernel v6.8-rc2-generic-64k and v6.8-rc2-generic?
[12:37] <qwertyttyert> kernel.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <magga> EriC^^: i did the commands on my server :O haha forgot to disconnect from the ssh session
[12:37] <magga> -rw------- 1 root       root       11507 feb.   2 13:24 known_hosts
[12:37] <magga> on my client
[12:37] <EriC^^> ah
[12:38] <magga> when i do 'ls -l'
[12:38] <EriC^^> try to remove the file 'rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts"
[12:38] <magga> ok its gone
[12:38] <magga> and its working like a charm now
[12:39] <magga> i still dont know how the fuck im able to connect ;D guess i need to read about ssh keys
[12:39] <EriC^^> :D
[12:39] <magga> like its using some sort of key to authenticate me with the same im using at my github
[12:39] <magga> but i dont know how it does it :P
[12:39] <magga> lillemagga@lillemaggaserver:~$
[12:39] <magga> next step will be to remove this long PREfix
[12:39] <magga> ;D
[12:40] <tupni> edit your /etc/hostname file
[12:40] <EriC^^> usually there's the authorized_keys that has a public key on the server and your private one on the client id_rsa
[12:41] <magga> EriC^^: yeah i figured, but i still dont know what client_id_rsa its usin :D
[12:41] <magga> tupni: that wouldnt take immediate effect would it
[12:41] <EriC^^> try ssh -vvv it should go over it in detail
[12:41] <magga> EriC^^: aight
[12:44] <magga> EriC^^: i guess its using this one : -rw-------  1 lillemagga lillemagga   411 aug.  29  2022 id_ed25519_github
[12:44] <tupni> no it won't take immediate effect, magga, sorry
[12:44] <magga> tupni: i dont want to go down to my server again :D
[12:45] <magga> i just dont want lillemagga@lillemaggaserver:~$
[12:45] <magga>  this long ass strings in my face either. isnt inside .bashrc
[12:45] <magga> or something
[12:45] <magga> PS1?
[12:47] <qwertyttyert> PS1 = PlayStation?
[12:47] <magga> :D
[12:47] <magga> btw guys what remote torrent program do you use? i want web interface
[12:50] <ravage> try transmission
[12:50] <magga> yeah i went with that
[12:51] <tupni> magga: I use Transmission with this blocklist, fwiw, - https://github.com/Naunter/BT_BlockLists
[12:53] <magga> dont know what blocklist is
[12:53] <qwertyttyert> I rarely use transmission it as long as it's enough. qBittorrent
[12:53] <magga> but i guess its smart
[12:53] <magga> from reading here: https://gist.github.com/shmup/29566c5268569069c256
[12:54] <tupni> it doesn't hurt to use a blocklist, and that one is a good one, imo
[12:54] <magga> whats the command to install transmission on my server
[12:54] <magga> i guess i need some differnet than just 'sudo apt install transmission'
[12:54] <magga> tupni: thanks i look into it
[12:55] <magga> i need the transmission-daemon right? and not the regular one?
[12:56] <magga> if anyone have a guide feel free to post it
[12:56] <qwertyttyert> qBittorrent no for version my Windows.
[12:56] <magga> https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/08/set-up-transmission-daemon-ubuntu-2204/
[12:56] <magga> i might just follow that one
[13:00] <magga> i forgot to ran 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' tho after my clean installtion. gonna do that first i guess
[13:00] <tupni> good idea
[13:02] <qwertyttyert>  I rarely use torrents (Transmission) it as long as it's enough. qBittorrent
[13:11] <magga> ok guys so the server has some disks on it
[13:11] <magga> how can i see them
[13:13] <magga> 'fdisk -l' showed them /dev/sdb2  264192 1465147391 1464883200 698.5G Microsoft basic data
[13:13] <magga> is one f.ex
[13:13] <magga> how can i access them tho
[13:16] <magga> guess i sudo mount them
[13:19] <FloMG19> Good evening
[13:19] <magga> good day
[13:21] <FloMG19> I checked out the kernel source for linux-headers-5.4.0-126 on different ways. (Git.. Downloading Deb files from security.ubuntu..) and the Makefile says it's 5.4.203.0 I am bit confused as I would expect something like 5.4.126. Also in the modinfo in compiled modules it mentions 5.4.203. Is that right and the compiled modules are going to work with 5.4.0-126?
[13:29] <qwertyttyert> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/mainline/
[13:31] <FloMG19> Hi qwertyttyert, sorry.. are you sending me this link? If yes, I don't know how it should help.
[13:36] <qwertyttyert> I don't know if this will help you or not. I'm taking the kernels from here. I'm using rc now, but it's virtualization.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:47] <ogra_> FloMG19, https://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html
[13:48] <ogra_> qwertyttyert, please note that the mainline kernels are not for production use in any way, they are carrying a wrong config and missing several 100 (security) patches ... beyond this they do not update ever at all ..
[13:49] <FloMG19> thx, ogra!
[13:57] <qwertyttyert> Thanks. I use them in Guest. I update it myself. If in virtualization errors and something else it doesn't bother me much if they happen. I'll boot from another core. It's not the first year I've been using cores from here.
[13:57] <qwertyttyert>  I'll boot from another kernel.
[13:58] <qwertyttyert> core = kernel
[13:59] <qwertyttyert> I'm translating, the translation is not accurate
[14:06] <qwertyttyert> I always use rc
[14:06] <qwertyttyert> 0 and rc, 0 and rc,...
[14:10] <qwertyttyert> release 0,rc,release 0,rc,...
[14:28] <magga> tupni
[14:28] <magga> im inside my /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json file, where to i put the blocklist?
[14:28] <magga> and can it be a .gz file?
[14:30] <tupni> you can define the blocklist from within the web gui
[14:30] <magga> alright
[14:30] <tupni> you just link to the gz url on that github page
[14:31] <tupni> and press update blocklist and it will block x00k hosts for you
[14:31] <tupni> some hundred thousands of unwanted ip addresses blocked, then
[14:31] <magga> yeah
[14:31] <magga> ty
[14:31] <tupni> no problem
[14:32] <tupni> when you link directly to the url.gz on the github page, you can do update now and then, because the blocklist content gets updated there
[14:33] <tupni> good way to stay updated on what should be blocked
[14:34] <magga> yeah
[14:35] <magga> i know want to setup VPN tho
[14:35] <magga> NordVPn or ProtonVPN?
[14:35] <tupni> I only use mullvad personally
[14:35] <magga> ok
[14:36] <tupni> so I don't know about any of the others.
[14:36] <magga> do you use a client or openvpn?
[14:36] <tupni> I use the client(s)
[14:36] <magga> aight
[14:36] <tupni> the official mullvad client
[14:37] <magga> i went for NordVPN
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> magga: tupni this channel is for ubuntu support questions, not so much vpn discussions
[14:38] <magga> sry about that
[14:38] <tupni> he's right
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-discuss more
[14:38] <qwertyttyert> I understand the risks. There is nothing valuable in the Guest.
[14:50] <qwertyttyert> https://ibb.co/TYrB7ZB ext2 - is working.
[14:55] <qwertyttyert> guest ext2 - is working.
[15:04] <tupni> magga: I'll sit in #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic if there's anything.
[15:09] <qwertyttyert> this is after Guest freezes, had to perform a virtual reset. Использование для себя rc в виртулизации мене не мешает жить.
[15:09] <qwertyttyert> Using rc for yourself in virtualization does not prevent me from living.
[15:09] <qwertyttyert> This is after Guest freezes, had to perform a virtual reset. Using rc for yourself in virtualization does not prevent me from living.
[15:17] <pagios> guys, how can i auto copy to clipboard  when i select text with mouse ?
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> pagios: if you're running X11 desktop session, highlight text, move to another window and use the middle click to paste.
[15:20] <pagios> i am doing so
[15:20] <pagios> not workign for me
[15:20] <pagios> nevermind it works
[15:20] <pagios> :)
[15:20] <pagios> thanks
[15:32] <pagios> i found a nice command "i386" never knew it exists
[15:32] <pagios> there is no i686 though
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> i386 is am alias to `setarch i386`
[15:35] <pagios> no alias for setarch i686
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> pagios: use `man setarch` it will reveal all ;)
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> I really don't recommend playing with that command though
[15:50] <GrandPa-G> if I have a partition that get manually mounted at boot, is a user able to make a symbolic link to it so it looks like a user's subfolder?
[15:51] <leftyfb> GrandPa-G: What is the end goal? I feel like there's a better way to accomplish what your end goal is
[15:53] <GrandPa-G> Big picture - I need a website to allow an upload that can be copied (ftp'd?) onto this box so it ends up in the mounted partition. Big enough?
[15:53] <leftyfb> GrandPa-G: bind mount the partition into the ftp home directory
[15:53] <leftyfb> for the user
[15:54] <GrandPa-G> a reasonable thought, thanks
[15:59] <bjorkintosh> is there any way to figure out what the hell is going on when I hit print?
[15:59] <bjorkintosh> if I'm lucky, it does it right away. If not, 10 minutes in and it prints one page and does nothing else.
[16:00] <bjorkintosh> this is a brother printer, btw. it's supposed to be the least fussy printer around.
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> bjorkintosh: you could check settings within cups with opening your web browser and navigate to http://127.0.0.1:631/ and from there you can check the queue's and spoolers
[16:21] <bjorkintosh> thank you pragmaticenigma
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> think gnome settings/printers also shows some info
[16:23] <bjorkintosh> it doesn't tell me much. just 'stopped'. please restart when problem is resolved.
[16:23] <bjorkintosh> what problem???
[16:30] <GrandPa-G> leftyfb, FYI: that worked perfectly. Actually it is on a Pi zero as a usb gadget that looks like it is plugged in as a real flash drive would look when the ftp occurs.
[16:46] <bparker> GrandPa-G: I always wondered, how does USB gadget work if a device has multiple USB ports?
[16:51] <GrandPa-G> bparker, I am no expert but from what I see each usb port identified by configuration setup like /dev folders. I can give you my setup if that would help.
[16:52] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason that sometimes the hostname is made known to all machines, and sometimes it simply doesn't bother?
[16:52] <bjorkintosh> the ip never changes.
[16:52] <bparker> define 'made known'
[16:53] <waheedi> Hello folks, I have a problem with my desktop enviornment. I cant change the language to English, for some reason i decided that I understand Deutsch very well, and currently can't revert back to English as primary desktop language. I tried several times to install the language pack from the regional settings but that fails without an error, any ideas?
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> waheedi: was the system originally installed with english?
[16:58] <waheedi> of course yes
[16:58] <bparker> waheedi: what desktop environment
[16:59] <waheedi> currently on plasma
[16:59] <bparker> is your console language also non-English or just GUI
[16:59] <waheedi> also console the main problem is with the console man
[16:59] <bparker> export LANG=C
[16:59] <bparker> fixed forever
[16:59] <bjorkintosh> bparker, i can ssh into bjorkdell on some days, some other days I have to use the IP address.
[16:59] <bparker> /s
[17:00] <bjorkintosh> it's always the same IP.
[17:00] <bparker> bjorkintosh: the answer would depend on where the resolving is being done at in the first place
[17:00] <bjorkintosh> I figured that bit was fixed.
[17:00] <bparker> e.g. is it coming from some dns lookup or something else
[17:00] <bjorkintosh> might be piholish being silly.
[17:00] <bparker> and is it that server that's not giving an answer or is it just not trying sometimes
[17:01] <waheedi> currently env reports LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[17:01] <bparker> what about LC_*
[17:01] <bparker> or LANGUAGE
[17:01] <leftyfb> waheedi: try alt+shift to change your keyboard language
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> bjorkintosh: pi-hole is usually configured to ignore single word domain lookups. So it's more likely a race condition between if the machine looks up using both DNS, zeroconf (bonjour), net-bios (if that's even installed), and SMB
[17:02] <leftyfb> and then maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/1364326/how-to-change-shortcut-for-switching-languages-to-ctrlshift-in-ubuntu-20-04-kde
[17:02] <waheedi> LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NAME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
[17:02] <bparker> bingo
[17:02] <waheedi> sII
[17:03] <bparker> what about /etc/default/locale
[17:03] <bparker> that may need changing also
[17:06] <bparker> and if you have a ~/.pam_environment there could be settings there too
[17:06] <bparker> also in dconf for gnome stuff
[17:07] <bparker> way too many different places to put things IMO
[17:07] <leftyfb> waheedi: how did you switch to dutch?
[17:07] <bparker> german*
[17:08] <waheedi> leftyfb, i have not, and i have no idea what did that. I'm sure its not a hacker man :D
[17:08] <leftyfb> sorry, I mean deutsch
[17:08] <leftyfb> waheedi: is this machine publicly accessible (in the cloud)?
[17:09] <KBar> oerheks: turns out it was simply a matter of a hidden SSID and the firewall...
[17:10] <waheedi> no its not accessible as far as I can tell :)
[17:11] <JanC> it's probably best to switch language settings in your DE configuration first and see if that works to fix it (possibly after a reboot to fix it in all terminals)
[17:11] <waheedi> but here is the thing after i changed all LC stuff (it did not help) :  env|grep DE
[17:11] <waheedi> DESKTOP_SESSION=plasma
[17:11] <waheedi> XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=KDE
[17:11] <waheedi> LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8
[17:11] <waheedi> XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE
[17:11] <waheedi> KDE_SESSION_UID=1000
[17:11] <bparker> lol
[17:12] <bparker> waheedi: in the beginning you implied that you changed the setting yourself though
[17:12] <bparker> now you're saying you have no idea how it was changed
[17:12] <bparker> which is it?
[17:12] <waheedi> man where did i imply i did change it bparker ? pointers
[17:13] <Guest49> Does it exist a ommand-line only 23.10 live cd without the GUI? Searching ubuntu server apparently only returns the LTSes
[17:13] <leftyfb> waheedi: "for some reason i decided that I understand Deutsch very well"
[17:13] <Guest49> (Mantic Minotaur)
[17:13] <JanC> well, you probably did change it, even if accidentally
[17:13] <bparker> just boot without gui on the live cd
[17:13] <leftyfb> Guest49: yes
[17:13] <KBar> Guest49: yeah, sounds like you want a server image
[17:13] <leftyfb> Guest49: https://ubuntu.com/download/server
[17:13] <KBar> or an lxd image
[17:14] <waheedi> leftyfb, bparker yes its missing a T after the i
[17:14] <waheedi> for some reason i decided that IT* understand Deutsch very well"
[17:14] <waheedi> for some reason it* decided that I understand Deutsch very well"
[17:14] <Guest49> many thanks for the link
[17:15] <waheedi> my text is very small and my screen is too far and i cant understand where to change the font in hexchat because it still think i speak german
[17:16] <waheedi> so the region language settings is broken in my plasma desktop when i add a new language it shows that its installing it and then fails but no reason for failure is apparent to me anywhere in any logs
[17:17] <waheedi> or is there a special log file for this?
[17:17] <oerheks> settings preferences...
[17:18] <oerheks> and after changing language, how would hexchat know without restarting?
[17:22] <waheedi> lol ok, i will live with it in German let me ask my real question now, i have this i2c device (a battery pack with some Texas instruments chip) as I'm running on ab AMD64 arch also using an AMD processor, i have been trying to communicate directly to it, so basically i plugged my i2c in two different ways, the first way was directly connected it, to the I2C pins of the CPU on the motherboard, happily the motherboard i have, have a
[17:22] <waheedi> direct jumper to these pins. well as a results I thought I would see that device on my i2cdetect specifically on my smb bus but that did not happen so i thought i would see if anyone had any experience connecting directly an i2c device on  the smbbus and gain access to the device i tried adding a new_device by echoing my address but also the device was not detected. so i decided to use the PCIE smbus but also the device was bot
[17:22] <waheedi> probed even though the i2c device is detected correctly on my esp32 or arduino but i want it to be present in my linux env directly.
[17:26] <waheedi> maybe this question does not belong here
[17:26] <bparker> I've never heard of anyone trying to connect another device to smbus (which btw isn't exactly i2c spec compliant)
[17:26] <bparker> usually a separate usb device is used
[17:27] <waheedi> really bparker, all battery chips are smbus compliant man, what are you talking about ?
[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> waheedi: it might be something you'd have better luck asking in a programming or hardware forum, possibly with the board maker's community
[17:27] <bparker> 'all battery chips' ?
[17:27] <waheedi> all since 2015
[17:27] <bparker> like who connects pins directly to an AMD processor to use i2c
[17:27] <waheedi> and some other even before that like 2010 for apple batteries
[17:28] <waheedi> me
[17:28] <bparker> that's not normal
[17:28] <bparker> the pins are often not even accessible
[17:28] <waheedi> bparker,ok :)
[17:28] <bparker> also seems like a great way to potentially brick a _very_ expensive CPU
[17:29] <waheedi> correct :D
[17:29] <waheedi> but not if you know what you are doing
[17:29] <bparker> like imagine someone you wants to use a USB device with their computer, "hang on let me just solder these pins directly to the bottom of my CPU, somehow"
[17:29] <bparker> who wants*
[17:30] <waheedi> what i dont understand is that, at least the pcie way should work, but it did not, even though i pulled up the i2c lines with a 10k resistors to the 3.3v rail
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> bparker and waheedi this conversation should probably take place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> or in an electrical engineering channel
[17:30] <waheedi> sorry man pragmaticenigma i will go offtopic
[17:31] <waheedi> ciao
[17:31] <bparker> lol ok we'll let you get back to your previous idling
[17:32] <KBar> not sure if laughing is appropriate
[17:34] <basil_> facebook.com
[17:39] <bparker> I just think people take on-topicness^W everything _way_ too seriously on IRC
[17:41] <KBar> its not just any channel tho
[18:30] <stuv> hey everyone
[18:31] <stuv> i've troubles installing node_v.20
[18:31] <stuv> Linux workstation 6.5.0-15-generic #15~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Jan 12 18:54:30 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:33] <KBar> how are you installing it?
[18:33] <KBar> describe your troubles
[18:33] <KBar> what errors are you getting
[18:33] <stuv> i got it working finally =)
[18:34] <KBar> great
[18:34] <KBar> i use its snap package
[18:35] <KBar> there is also nvm
[18:35] <KBar> those are your main options
[18:35] <stuv> thx anyways
[18:35] <KBar> forget about the deb package
[21:19] <michela> Hi, everyone! When atempting to ssh to some hosts, like Rocky Linux 8, for example, my Ubuntu ssh client throws an error "Bad packet length" ssh_dispatch_run_fatal "Connection corrupted". Might anyone else have the same experience? This appears to coincide with a recent update to the Ubuntu and Debian ssh clients.
[21:19] <michela> I can connect to the same servers from other Linux distributions.
[21:21] <sarnold> michela: I can't recall seeing other complaints like that; could you file a bug report with ubuntu-bug ssh   and provide some more information, perhaps including the ssh -vvv or similar output for a connection attempt?
[21:21] <michela> I can do that. Thank you!
[21:22] <michela> Another person I work with is suddenly experiencing the same exact problem when trying to connect to the same servers from Debian 10 Buster
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> what is the destination system for them?
[21:23] <michela> So it does seem that, perhaps, some client-side settings are changed. Perhaps it's different ciphers or algorithms that are used on the client than what the server is using.
[21:24] <michela> The destination ssh host that we're having this trouble with is Rocky Linux 8.9. Those Rocky machines are fully up to date.
[21:24] <michela> The same problem does not happen when connecting from a CentOS 7 machine.
[21:24] <sarnold> michela: it might be worth trying to fiddle with ssh -oIPQoS=none as well, I've heard of this causing some trouble that's challenging to track down
[21:24] <michela> Also, we can connect to Ubuntu and Rocky 9 machines with no trouble.
[21:25] <michela> ah! I will try that right now.
[21:25] <sarnold> michela: I might also try lowing the MTU on the network link in question, that can show up in annoying ways with ssh
[21:25] <sarnold> (I think that's more likely, but fiddling with the quality of service flag is a million times easier :)
[21:26] <michela> haha. Yes. I'd rather not change MTU settings if I can avoid it. We want that to be as high as possible for the other network services running.   :)
[21:28] <michela> Darn. 'ssh -oIPQoS=none' does not solve it.
[21:30] <sarnold> :(
[21:31] <michela> I increased the verbosity (-vvv) on my client, and now see this: 'debug3: send packet: type 5', which is interesting.
[21:32] <michela> Then, 'Bad packet length 3495056407.' 'debug2: sshpkt_disconnect: sending SSH2_MSG_DISCONNECT: Packet corrupt'
[21:32] <korgrunt> Hi
[21:33] <pragmaticenigma> wasn't some of the recent patches for OpenSSH packet size related?
[21:33] <pragmaticenigma> wonder if it is a version conflict kind of thing
[21:36] <sarnold> the mitigation for the terrapin thing was a new protocol extension, I think it ought to be pretty silent if only one endpoint has been upgraded
[21:37] <michela> A colleauge just messaged me with a solution that works for us both!!
[21:37] <sarnold> oo :)
[21:37] <michela> ssh -c aes256-gcm@openssh.com michela@server_name
[21:38] <sarnold> that seems like a vote for the terrapin problems..
[21:38] <sarnold> please do mention that in the bug report :)
[21:38] <michela> ah. I *thought* it might have something to do with preferred ciphers or algorithms, or perhaps a new default setting. I just didn't know which one.   :D
[21:40] <michela> Well, that was a bit of an odyssey. At least we finally have an answer.
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> and here I had just found my 8.x alma install and got it booted to try and replicate
[21:46] <michela> Aw. Thanks for doing that!!
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> you're welcome... it's not a happy camper of a computer at the moment... something about not booting it for several months and it has repo key issues
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> guess I know what I'll be doing this weeken
[21:47] <AShapiro> fyi zfs data corruption fixes are finally in -proposed
[21:47] <michela> I wonder if the 8.x versions of Rocky et al. will get an update, such that we don't have to specify the algorithm in this way.
[21:48] <AShapiro> gonna attempt an upgrade today
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> michela: I kind of wonder if it isn't how those specific machines you're attempting to get to might be configured?
[21:49] <sarnold> AShapiro: awesome, thanks :)
[21:49] <AShapiro> yeah i've been waiting a hot minute. actually been running some 2.2.2 build from some guy's PPA, so i'll have to ppa-purge and then upgrade. going to be an interesting process
[21:50] <AShapiro> looks like they ended up just cherry-picking the one fix and backporting into 2.2.0
[21:50] <michela> pragmaticenigma: Yah. I'm wondering that as well. The ssh server config file is fairly sparse on them. So, perhaps, it is a compiled-in default that would need to change.
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> michela: I wonder because of the @openssh.com suffix represents a vendor specific. That's used when the vendor wants to support something that hasn't been adopted by a IETF. What I wonder is if someone locked down the remote machines to only use 256 varients or better, but omitted the IETF standardized one in place of the others
[21:59] <michela> Hmm. Well, I originally set up these machines, and no one else would have been able to change most of them. I believe these Rocky machines' ssh configurations are mostly default, apart from some small changes to parameters like allowed connectsions, AllowUSers, etc. I hadn't changed ciphers.
[22:00] <michela> We now generate new host keys for new machines we provision, especially if they are on a cloud platform like Azure, OVH, etc., but I don't think that was done on this server.
[22:01] <michela> Hmm! Maybe this is a problem on Azure VM images only.
[22:02] <michela> I'll check more and report back when I can do that.
[22:26] <cluelessperson> Hello there, I'm using a smartcard utility,  vsmartcard-vpcd to use my cell phone as an NFC smart card reader
[22:27] <cluelessperson> but I'm seeing a ton of unwanted traffic from another thing that I have no idea what it is.
[22:27] <cluelessperson> Usually the scanner detects the card, and waits,
[22:27] <cluelessperson> but it appears like something is interogating the smart card...
[22:27] <cluelessperson> and I can't figure out how to tell what it is.
[22:30] <el> sounds like a thing #hardware or #security people would have experience with
[22:35] <cluelessperson> el  I'm trying to identify *any* way of just knowing where the commands are coming from
[22:36] <el> yeah i have no clue about smartcard stuff, but sounds right up the alley of people in those channel so you may have better luck
[22:37] <cluelessperson> el  ubuntu bakes in some smartcard stuff as well, this only started recently, so I suspect ubuntu
[22:38] <el> ok well your choices are to only wait for an answer here, or also ask the more likely source as well.
[22:38] <el> im not saying don't ask here. i'm pointing you at people who might be helpful :)
[22:50] <xu-help68w> Any know how to upgrade lts 18.xx to the next available lts version. The updater does not provide the option to upgrade.
[22:50] <xu-help68w> The article about upgrading isn't working.
[22:50] <JanC> cluelessperson: netstat might be useful
[22:52] <cluelessperson> JanC netstat is for showing ports or open network connections, these are adpu commands being passed through pcsc, and scdaemon?
[22:53] <JanC> it also shows unix sockets
[22:54] <JanC> which I assume is used to connect to it
[22:57] <xu-help68w> I tried sudo do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3A box is suppsed to pop up. It says "There will not be any further Ubuntu releases
[22:57] <xu-help68w> for this system's 'i386' architecture."
[22:57] <xu-help68w> What does that mean?
[22:57] <ravage> it means that you have to check if your system is 64bit capable and meets the minimum requirements for Ubuntu 22.04 and reinstall
[22:57] <ravage> 18.04 was the last LTS release with 32bit support
[22:58] <JanC> with full 32-bit support
[22:59] <ravage> as in 32bit base system and kernel
[23:00] <xu-help68w> Ok
[23:00] <xu-help68w> So how to i update from a 32bit to a 64bit os?
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> xu-help68w: Does your computer have a 64bit CPU?
[23:01] <xu-help68w> It does.
[23:01] <ravage> you dont
[23:01] <ravage> you reinstall
[23:01] <ravage> there is no upgrade path
[23:01] <xu-help68w> amd 5600G apu.
[23:02] <pragmaticenigma> xu-help68w: as ravage mentioned, there is no way to upgrade, you have to perform a new install of Ubuntu on your machine
[23:03] <xu-help68w> Ok, then i'll just leave it.
[23:03] <ravage> Ubuntu 18.04 is EOL and does not get any security updates. so it is strongly advises to install a supported Version
[23:04] <pragmaticenigma> xu-help68w: That isn't recommended, but that is your choice
[23:04] <xu-help68w> Not bothered with a reinstall process.
[23:04] <ravage> good luck
[23:04] <JanC> at least enable Ubuntu ESM/Pro when you keep that thing running...
[23:04] <ravage> i doubt that pro covers 32bit . but im not sure
[23:05] <xu-help68w> No idea what that is.
[23:05] <JanC> especially if it accesses the internet
[23:05] <xu-help68w> It does have access.
[23:06] <xu-help68w> But if it can't do it automatically or through a command or two. Then i won't bother.
[23:06] <JanC> what's the problem with doing a re-install?
[23:06] <xu-help68w> I'll reinstall it, when it one day refuses to run.
[23:06] <xu-help68w> Time, and not really that important.
[23:07] <xangua> it takes 15 minutes to do a clean install...
[23:07] <JanC> doing a re-install usually takes less time than an upgrade...
[23:07] <xu-help68w> It's not about the install time of the OS, it's time setting up the apps running.
[23:08] <xu-help68w> They're working and doing their thing. I'll just let them do that until it blows up.
[23:10] <xu-help68w> The only reason i thought about upgrading was because it started saying that there are no further updates, so i thought, sure let it upgrade.
[23:12] <xu-help68w> It'll run just fine as is.
[23:13] <xu-help68w> But thanks for assist.
[23:21] <AShapiro> hurumph, ppa-purge is not doing the needful. trying to revert a selection of zfs packages (so i can install one from -proposed) and it successfully lists the packages to revert
[23:22] <AShapiro> but then selects those versions and does nothing
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> AShapiro: I thought you needed to remove or revert the packages before removing a PPA. Or am I not understanding what you are doing?
[23:23] <AShapiro> i'm using ppa-purge which is supposed to automate that process
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> ah, okay
[23:23] <AShapiro> and it is successfully listing the packages to be rolled back, but then taking no action on them
[23:23] <darkdrgn2k> im getting "iptables v1.8.7 (nf_tables): Chain 'MASQUERADE' does not exist" when i try to use iptables.
[23:24] <darkdrgn2k> is there a kernel module im missing
[23:24] <darkdrgn2k> i have nft_masq.ko
[23:24] <darkdrgn2k> it works fine using iptables-legacy
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> kind of sounds like a feature that is no longer available in newer versions, where another approach is needed
[23:26] <ravage> darkdrgn2k: what is your full iptables command?
[23:27] <michela> pragmaticenigma, sarnold, indeed, it appears this ssh cipher mis-match problem may be isolated to Rocky 8 VMs running in Microsoft Azure. Any othter Rocky 8 hosts I've tried do not have the same problem.  So odd.
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k> iptables --wait -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 172.17.0.0/16 ! -o docker0 -j MASQUERADE
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k> but as simple as  iptables t nat -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> michela: it's not too surprising, Microsoft does customize their images for their various linux offerings for compatibility.
[23:28] <michela> . . . and sometimes, for incompatibility! Ba-dum-crash!
[23:28] <ravage> modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE
[23:29] <ravage> that should add the  functionality
[23:29] <ravage> actually it is xt_MASQUERADEnow i think
[23:29] <darkdrgn2k> ipt_MASQUERADE.ko doesnt exist
[23:29] <michela> Fortunately, I don't work with a lot of machines in Azure, and all of those do not run Rocky 8.
[23:29] <darkdrgn2k> xt_MASQUERADE          20480  0 <- it is installed
[23:29] <ravage> this does not look like a default Ubuntu kernel then?
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> Linux (none) 6.2.0-36-generic #37~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Oct  9 15:34:04 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:30] <ravage> that looks fine
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> i think im may be missing a kernenel module
[23:30] <darkdrgn2k> (not using modprobe)
[23:31] <darkdrgn2k> https://dpaste.com/379P6N9DB
[23:32] <ravage> is this running on WSL by any chance?
[23:32] <darkdrgn2k> nop
[23:33] <darkdrgn2k> vm.. but i built the fs myself to be minimalistic
[23:33] <ravage> try to reproduce it on a default installation of Ubuntu. If the bug still exists file a bug
[23:33] <darkdrgn2k> its works on a full install
[23:34] <darkdrgn2k> but my question is what could it be missing
[23:35] <darkdrgn2k> ok its 100% one of the modules
[23:35] <darkdrgn2k> i just installed like all the modules and it works
[23:55] <anonimous> Hello World!