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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pymatgen [riscv64] (noble-proposed/universe) [2024.1.27+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)00:09
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pymatgen [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [2024.1.27+dfsg1-3]00:21
=== deathcollege_ is now known as mr_sparkle
=== guiverc2 is now known as guiverc
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (jammy-backports/universe) [308-1~bpo22.04.1 => 310.1-1~bpo22.04.1] (no packageset)08:40
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (mantic-backports/universe) [308-1~bpo23.10.1 => 310.1-1~bpo23.10.1] (no packageset)08:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit-machines (jammy-backports/universe) [304-1~bpo22.04.1 => 306-1~bpo22.04.1] (no packageset)08:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit-machines (mantic-backports/universe) [304-1~bpo23.10.1 => 306-1~bpo23.10.1] (no packageset)08:41
LocutusOfBorgvorlon, if you need help or paperwork from my side, please let me know09:05
LocutusOfBorgalso, it was discussed to think about vbox as a snap09:05
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [amd64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)12:35
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [s390x] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)12:36
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [arm64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)12:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [ppc64el] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)12:38
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [armhf] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)12:38
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: falcosecurity-libs [riscv64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)13:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [amd64] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [armhf] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [arm64] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [s390x] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted falcosecurity-libs [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [0.14.1-5ubuntu1]14:31
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: uh I don't know who was discussing vbox as a snap, but you can't snap kernel modules17:31
LocutusOfBorgvorlon, not yet :)20:07
LocutusOfBorgwe discussed a little bit during ubuntu summit20:07
LocutusOfBorglast year20:07
LocutusOfBorgvirtualbox upstream would like to check if it's possible to provide some interfaces for virtualbox as snap20:08
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: yeah well "not yet" means "at risk to have support for this in 24.04 LTS", where we really want it for nvidia modules on Ubuntu Desktop with TPM-backed FDE20:13
LocutusOfBorgdidn't know!20:14
LocutusOfBorgbtw, people are already uploading 64bit nmu in sid, e.g. falcosecurity-libs above20:14
LocutusOfBorgis my sysdiag ncr correct?20:14
LocutusOfBorg(sisdig)20:14
LocutusOfBorg(sysdig)20:15
LocutusOfBorgfalcosecurity-libs merge did pick up the experimental nmu you did, because maintainer uploaded in sid20:15
vorlongrr20:17
vorlonmwhudson did the NMU, so he would've gotten the notice rather than me20:18
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: 'ncr'?20:20
LocutusOfBorgno change rebuild20:20
vorlonno20:20
vorlondon't rebuild sysdig20:20
LocutusOfBorg:/20:21
jbichathe NMU bugs don't say clearly enough "please don't upload this nmu or this package at all right now"20:21
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: if you do it will build with the wrong ABI and depend on the new package name, so will be invisible to the mass binNMU handling!20:22
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: if you've already uploaded sysdig, then we should revert the maintainer upload to unstable20:22
LocutusOfBorgvorlon, I did it like half an hour ago20:22
LocutusOfBorgvorlon, I'm speaking about Ubuntu now20:22
vorlonjbicha: yes, I always overestimate the least common denominator of Debian maintainers20:22
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: oh.  well, I can just remove that one myself from -proposed then :)20:22
LocutusOfBorgyes20:22
LocutusOfBorgbut the problem remains for Debian20:23
LocutusOfBorgfalcosecurity-libs built with wrong abi in debian sid, right?20:23
vorloncorrect20:23
vorlonbut we can handwave and just NMU it anyway to fix the ABI20:23
LocutusOfBorgok, how do we know when the "switch" will be effective? some dpkg upload?20:23
vorlonthere will be a dpkg upload, followed by coordinated NMUs to unstable20:24
LocutusOfBorgshould we expect on armhf to have some "Provides:" ?20:24
vorlonand I'll post about it to debian-devel-announce again once dpkg is uploaded20:24
vorlonLocutusOfBorg: quite the opposite, armhf will be the architecture that DOESN'T have provides: and all other Ubuntu architectures will have20:24
LocutusOfBorgok but I would have expected experimental uploads to gain it...20:25
LocutusOfBorgso maintainers would have been aware of the new stuff20:25
LocutusOfBorgI fear I'm missing something, but the abi in experimental after the nmu is exactly the same as the one in sid, right?20:26
vorlonThe uploads in experimental do have Provides: added.  They just don't do the actual ABI change; experimental is a false transition20:27
vorlonto not deal with the dpkg-dev stuff at the time20:27
LocutusOfBorgok20:28
LocutusOfBorgso, they are abi compatible with the reverse-dependencies20:28
LocutusOfBorgbut not co-installable probably20:29
LocutusOfBorgindeed uploading dpkg in experimental and forcing an additional B-D was a little bit an overkill, I can understand20:29
LocutusOfBorgthanks for explaining, I admit I didn't quite understand from the NMU bugs, my bad20:30
LocutusOfBorgso I put falcosecurity-libs in a list for rebuild in Ubuntu once dpkg changes defaults20:30

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