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IrcsomeBot_<myfenris> The following packages have been kept back:10:05
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IrcsomeBot_<myfenris> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.10:05
IrcsomeBot_<myfenris> what are the remaining dependencies ?10:05
sgmooreStill working on them ( new release 5.115 ) launchpad being down Monday set me behind.12:07
ricktimmisHi, get an email on Devel list about Ubuntu Merg-o-Matic, just flagging it here FYI. https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?showProposed=true&showMergeNeeded=true&showLongBinaries=true14:15
IrcsomeBot_<myfenris> thanks for the heads up (re @IrcsomeBot: <ricktimmis> Hi, get an email on Devel list about Ubuntu Merg-o-Matic, just flagging it here FYI. https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?showProposed=true&showMergeNeeded=true&showLongBinaries=true)14:18
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> devel list sounds like something I should be subbed to. Looking into merge situation...14:21
* sgmoore goes to the far reaches of dust bunny riddled brain to dig out how to do merges.14:32
arraybolt3https://invent.kde.org/teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04/-/issues/3 Added an OEM installation roadmap15:49
-ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 3 in teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04 "Switch to Calamares" [Opened]15:49
arraybolt3Basically most of the parts are there, we just need a looooooot of glue.15:49
arraybolt3anyway, if someone sees a problem, please let me know15:50
arraybolt3also, sgmoore: looks like Calamares and the calamares-settings-kubuntu package have successfully published into the release pocket, so they should be ready to seed.15:52
sgmooreok thank you! That's quite a roadmap. Have you checked other distros to see if there are bits we can 'borrow' ?15:53
arraybolt3I tried... I thought KDE neon had this working but nope.15:57
arraybolt3no OEM mode to be found.15:57
arraybolt3We may be the first distro to try to use these features in this way.15:58
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Wow! well that's news worthy.15:58
sgmoore@arraybolt3 I see some oem stuff in neon https://invent.kde.org/neon/neon/calamares-settings16:00
ricktimmisAweomse work on that ticket for Calamares arraybolt316:02
arraybolt3sgmoore: Huh, didn't notice that. Maybe they were working on it and then dropped it, I dunno.16:02
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Indeed!16:02
arraybolt3Or maybe the buttons are just hiding. :P16:02
arraybolt3anyway, I can probably find things to borrow from that.16:02
sgmoorecool :) I think they did have it working at one point. Not sure if it still does or you may be right in it's hidden16:03
arraybolt3It looks like they have a bunch of glue too.16:03
arraybolt3So that makes me hopeful that this will work16:03
ricktimmisYes, definetly news worh, I'll put a task up for a Press Release..16:03
sgmooreHarald is good at glueing things together lol16:04
arraybolt3I'm not sure how much I can borrow from them since I'm trying to mimic Ubiquity as closely as possible (except for the bad parts :P) but I can probably snag some useful things from their oem user setup config16:04
sgmoorecool, hopefully it helps a little. Thanks again for all the super awesome work on this :)16:05
IrcsomeBot_<tsimonq2> I've been meaning to port pkgselect to a UI file, btw17:00
IrcsomeBot_<tsimonq2> Plus, we'll need translations for that ;)17:00
IrcsomeBot_<tsimonq2> Harald is the only reviewer in the last maybe year or two where I've gone "oh man, this is SO GOOD" - you really do learn a lot working with him :)17:01
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Yup. He is wonderful to learn from.17:02
IrcsomeBot_<RikMills> Precisely why I added him to the release notifier MR :) (re @tsimonq2: Harald is the only reviewer in the last maybe year or two where I've gone "oh man, this is SO GOOD" - you really do learn a lot working with him :))17:11
arraybolt3Trying the first build of calamares-settings-ubuntu with the OEM config packages18:35
arraybolt3s/packages/files/18:35
arraybolt3um... the package actually built18:44
arraybolt3ok, so I guess it's time to do the actual testing. Going to take me a while, I'm expecting lots of problems but the initial "throw it together" phase is done.18:56
arraybolt3https://i.imgur.com/Mf6MVk4.png This is what the OEM install mode trigger looks like currently19:17
arraybolt3mhh... what did I do: https://i.imgur.com/a59hCzF.png19:22
arraybolt3oh, and this is about to bomb out entirely because of a silly mistake I made19:23
arraybolt3actually, it didn't bomb out19:24
arraybolt3and I see what I did wrong19:24
tsimonq2sgmoore: I don't know if anyone told you, but the New Kool way to upload to Ubuntu is `dput ssh-ubuntu` :)20:22
* arraybolt3 still just uses dput ubuntu20:23
arraybolt3it's fast, it's simple, it stays out of my way20:23
tsimonq2In a general sense, Security Is Good. In a more pragmatic sense, ssh-ubuntu is much less flaky than the FTP server backed by `ubuntu`20:23
tsimonq2I usually work on a shared network, so someone MITMing my signed source.changes file is possible and Not Good.20:24
arraybolt3From a security standpoint, I already signed it with GPG, it's plenty secure. From a pragmatic standpoint, it'll take me less time to have one failed upload and then switch to ssh-ubuntu than it will take me to confirm that I really do want to upload over and over again.20:24
tsimonq2Does ssh-ubuntu really do that with you? hmm20:24
tsimonq2It doesn't for me.20:24
arraybolt3I seem to remember it did20:25
tsimonq2sgmoore: now you're also aware there's conflicting opinions :D20:25
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Lol clear as mud!20:52
arraybolt3ssh-keygen20:52
arraybolt3I am pleased to announce I just did a (mostly) successful OEM installation of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS using Calamares.21:05
arraybolt3I discovered a few things of interest in the process:21:05
arraybolt3* The wallpaper app I build, we don't need. Calamares runs fullscreen.21:05
arraybolt3* Calamares OEM setup mode works really well, which was a bit of a surprise21:06
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Nice!!!! (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> I am pleased to announce I just did a (mostly) successful OEM installation of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS using Calamares.)22:10
arraybolt3sgmoore: Apologies in advance for how boring this video may be, but here's a screen capture of the Calamares OEM installation in action. Seems to work really well at least to begin with. (There's a slight hiccup where I had to install Calamares while in OEM configuration mode, this is just because Cala isn't seeded yet.)22:37
arraybolt3https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jIZ7Khq2iBNTnJJKtVwkzUDPlaWxc2Ey/view?usp=sharing22:37
arraybolt3probably will need VLC or MPV to view22:38
IrcsomeBot_<sgmoore> Will have to look when at 🖥  :)22:45
arraybolt3sgmoore: oh also, Calamares and calamares-settings-kubuntu should be seed-able now.22:55
arraybolt3Uploading new calamares-settings-ubuntu with OEM config.23:06

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