 The following packages have been kept back:
   frameworkintegration ktexteditor-data ktexteditor-katepart kwayland-data libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5contacts-data libkf5contacts5
   libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5 libkf5i18nlocaledata5 libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5
   libkf5kcmutilscore5 libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin libkf5khtml-bin libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5
   libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5kirigami2-5 libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5newstuffcore5 libkf5newstuffwidgets5
   libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins libkf5parts5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5purpose-bin
   libkf5purpose5 libkf5runner5 libkf5style5 libkf5texteditor-bin libkf5texteditor5 libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5
   plasma-framework qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop qml-module-org-kde-kcm qml-module-org-kde-kconfig qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons
   qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kirigami2 qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons
   qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem qml-module-org-kde-newstuff qml-module-org-kde-purpose qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
 what are the remaining dependencies ?
[12:07] <sgmoore> Still working on them ( new release 5.115 ) launchpad being down Monday set me behind.
[14:15] <ricktimmis> Hi, get an email on Devel list about Ubuntu Merg-o-Matic, just flagging it here FYI. https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?showProposed=true&showMergeNeeded=true&showLongBinaries=true
 thanks for the heads up (re @IrcsomeBot: <ricktimmis> Hi, get an email on Devel list about Ubuntu Merg-o-Matic, just flagging it here FYI. https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?showProposed=true&showMergeNeeded=true&showLongBinaries=true)
 devel list sounds like something I should be subbed to. Looking into merge situation...
[14:32]  * sgmoore goes to the far reaches of dust bunny riddled brain to dig out how to do merges.
[15:49] <arraybolt3> https://invent.kde.org/teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04/-/issues/3 Added an OEM installation roadmap
[15:49] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 3 in teams/distribution-kubuntu/to-do-24.04 "Switch to Calamares" [Opened]
[15:49] <arraybolt3> Basically most of the parts are there, we just need a looooooot of glue.
[15:50] <arraybolt3> anyway, if someone sees a problem, please let me know
[15:52] <arraybolt3> also, sgmoore: looks like Calamares and the calamares-settings-kubuntu package have successfully published into the release pocket, so they should be ready to seed.
[15:53] <sgmoore> ok thank you! That's quite a roadmap. Have you checked other distros to see if there are bits we can 'borrow' ?
[15:57] <arraybolt3> I tried... I thought KDE neon had this working but nope.
[15:57] <arraybolt3> no OEM mode to be found.
[15:58] <arraybolt3> We may be the first distro to try to use these features in this way.
 Wow! well that's news worthy.
[16:00] <sgmoore> @arraybolt3 I see some oem stuff in neon https://invent.kde.org/neon/neon/calamares-settings
[16:02] <ricktimmis> Aweomse work on that ticket for Calamares arraybolt3
[16:02] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: Huh, didn't notice that. Maybe they were working on it and then dropped it, I dunno.
 Indeed!
[16:02] <arraybolt3> Or maybe the buttons are just hiding. :P
[16:02] <arraybolt3> anyway, I can probably find things to borrow from that.
[16:03] <sgmoore> cool :) I think they did have it working at one point. Not sure if it still does or you may be right in it's hidden
[16:03] <arraybolt3> It looks like they have a bunch of glue too.
[16:03] <arraybolt3> So that makes me hopeful that this will work
[16:03] <ricktimmis> Yes, definetly news worh, I'll put a task up for a Press Release..
[16:04] <sgmoore> Harald is good at glueing things together lol
[16:04] <arraybolt3> I'm not sure how much I can borrow from them since I'm trying to mimic Ubiquity as closely as possible (except for the bad parts :P) but I can probably snag some useful things from their oem user setup config
[16:05] <sgmoore> cool, hopefully it helps a little. Thanks again for all the super awesome work on this :)
 I've been meaning to port pkgselect to a UI file, btw
 Plus, we'll need translations for that ;)
 Harald is the only reviewer in the last maybe year or two where I've gone "oh man, this is SO GOOD" - you really do learn a lot working with him :)
 Yup. He is wonderful to learn from.
 Precisely why I added him to the release notifier MR :) (re @tsimonq2: Harald is the only reviewer in the last maybe year or two where I've gone "oh man, this is SO GOOD" - you really do learn a lot working with him :))
[18:35] <arraybolt3> Trying the first build of calamares-settings-ubuntu with the OEM config packages
[18:35] <arraybolt3> s/packages/files/
[18:44] <arraybolt3> um... the package actually built
[18:56] <arraybolt3> ok, so I guess it's time to do the actual testing. Going to take me a while, I'm expecting lots of problems but the initial "throw it together" phase is done.
[19:17] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/Mf6MVk4.png This is what the OEM install mode trigger looks like currently
[19:22] <arraybolt3> mhh... what did I do: https://i.imgur.com/a59hCzF.png
[19:23] <arraybolt3> oh, and this is about to bomb out entirely because of a silly mistake I made
[19:24] <arraybolt3> actually, it didn't bomb out
[19:24] <arraybolt3> and I see what I did wrong
[20:22] <tsimonq2> sgmoore: I don't know if anyone told you, but the New Kool way to upload to Ubuntu is `dput ssh-ubuntu` :)
[20:23]  * arraybolt3 still just uses dput ubuntu
[20:23] <arraybolt3> it's fast, it's simple, it stays out of my way
[20:23] <tsimonq2> In a general sense, Security Is Good. In a more pragmatic sense, ssh-ubuntu is much less flaky than the FTP server backed by `ubuntu`
[20:24] <tsimonq2> I usually work on a shared network, so someone MITMing my signed source.changes file is possible and Not Good.
[20:24] <arraybolt3> From a security standpoint, I already signed it with GPG, it's plenty secure. From a pragmatic standpoint, it'll take me less time to have one failed upload and then switch to ssh-ubuntu than it will take me to confirm that I really do want to upload over and over again.
[20:24] <tsimonq2> Does ssh-ubuntu really do that with you? hmm
[20:24] <tsimonq2> It doesn't for me.
[20:25] <arraybolt3> I seem to remember it did
[20:25] <tsimonq2> sgmoore: now you're also aware there's conflicting opinions :D
 Lol clear as mud!
[20:52] <arraybolt3> ssh-keygen
[21:05] <arraybolt3> I am pleased to announce I just did a (mostly) successful OEM installation of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS using Calamares.
[21:05] <arraybolt3> I discovered a few things of interest in the process:
[21:05] <arraybolt3> * The wallpaper app I build, we don't need. Calamares runs fullscreen.
[21:06] <arraybolt3> * Calamares OEM setup mode works really well, which was a bit of a surprise
 Nice!!!! (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> I am pleased to announce I just did a (mostly) successful OEM installation of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS using Calamares.)
[22:37] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: Apologies in advance for how boring this video may be, but here's a screen capture of the Calamares OEM installation in action. Seems to work really well at least to begin with. (There's a slight hiccup where I had to install Calamares while in OEM configuration mode, this is just because Cala isn't seeded yet.)
[22:37] <arraybolt3> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jIZ7Khq2iBNTnJJKtVwkzUDPlaWxc2Ey/view?usp=sharing
[22:38] <arraybolt3> probably will need VLC or MPV to view
 Will have to look when at 🖥  :)
[22:55] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: oh also, Calamares and calamares-settings-kubuntu should be seed-able now.
[23:06] <arraybolt3> Uploading new calamares-settings-ubuntu with OEM config.