| enyc | hrrm, I've worked out Cinnamon screenshot reprogrammable for output path and filename, no problems there. Looks like printer-driver-cups-pdf can do something similar, no problems there -- i.e. so Cinnamon screenshots and 'general printing' can default to Properly Dated files in same directory. | 14:02 |
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| enyc | BUT -- it would THEN be amazingly helpful to have some 'container' or 'alternate file browser / PDF viewer' that can be set to 'default to actual physical printer' from the point of view of handling the files in resultant directory (or indeed pdf files generally) | 14:03 |
| enyc | any $ideas especially on PDF viewer that can be set for a different default-printer to the system-wide default, etc ? | 14:03 |
| enyc | Seems that this fundamentally boils down to: Do the various GTK/ print dialog / etc libraries ahev some mechanism/adaptable so you can arrange specific programs (especially picture viewer and pdf viewer) to use a different default-printer to others, or similar ? | 14:15 |
| * enyc meows in Eickmeyer 's direction | 18:56 | |
| * Eickmeyer blinks | 18:57 | |
| Eickmeyer | enyc: So, you're looking for something that can be set as the system-wide iviewer for PDF files or... I guess I'm not quite understanding? | 18:58 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: I'm looking for pdf-viewer (and, preferably image-viewer) that can be set as default viewer *AND* use a *different* default-printer to the system-wide default-printer | 20:06 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: i.e. i'm trying to fudge things so "most" printing (and screenshotting) is usually to dated PDF files [by setting cups-pdf as default printer], and its' only when you open pdfs and images the default-behaviour is to "actually print to real printer" | 20:07 |
| Eickmeyer | enyc: There's a few options. What have you found when searching? We have evince, okular, and others readily available in the repositories. | 20:08 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: i've used many many different pdf viewers; what I'm asking for some careful-input from somebody more knowledgeable about the ecosystem as a whole is "is what im asking sensible/achievable" and is "different default printer for different programs" achievable in some GTK / library / etc area somewhere in the chain of command? etc | 20:09 |
| enyc | I can certainly "just go experiment" with a whole LOAD of programs, but I'm asking a slightly subtle question and interested if somebody suggest a different way of going about this. | 20:11 |
| enyc | I'm fairly sure I can reconfigure both cinnamon-screenshooter and cups-pdf to do what i want in terms of autodating stuff sent to them; thats' not the problem part. | 20:12 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, yeah, you're not likely to find that in this chat. The people in #openprinting *might* be able to point you in the right direction, though. | 20:12 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: what can you tell me generally about shared-libraries etc for dialogs for "printing" in gtk, gnome, other toolkits generally ? | 20:13 |
| Eickmeyer | I honestly can't. I'm not a GTK programmer. | 20:13 |
| enyc | are those shared-dialogcs for "opne fgile" "print something" etc in other libraries | 20:13 |
| enyc | ok no problem =) | 20:13 |
| enyc | thankyou for answer | 20:13 |
| Eickmeyer | Yw. #openprinting handles cups stuff and they also work closely with the Ubuntu Desktop people who know a lot about GTK. | 20:13 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: given no overlap of nicks between them I've actually asked both #cups and @openprinting politely | 20:18 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: thankyou | 20:18 |
| Eickmeyer | enyc: #cups doesn't *really* handle what you'd think is cups that is used in Linux anymore. #openprinting handles that. #cups is what is used on macOS pretty much exclusively. | 20:19 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: also some of these channels are now primare on OFTC last i checked | 20:19 |
| enyc | Eickmeyer: anyway, asked a bit, amy look forther later. Thankyou for pointers! | 20:20 |
| Eickmeyer | enyc: You're welcome. I got my info from https://openprinting.github.io/contact/ and am friends with the head of OpenPrinting. | 20:20 |
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