[12:33] <mandem0110> Afternoon.... :D
[14:08] <sem> let's discuss chatting
[14:09] <sem> back in my day, ubuntu forums was for posting your hard problems and you'd probably get a good answer but it would take awhile
[14:09] <sem> and IRC was for you to post your easier problem, and people would try to help you in real time
[14:10] <sem> Now in 2024 we still have ubuntu forum and IRC, but also Matrix, Discord, AskUbuntu, (any others?)
[14:11] <sem> oh, i forgot. Back in my day the wiki had a lot of information, but it could be out of date
[14:11] <sem> in today's day and age, what are the different platforms for?
[14:20] <jeremy31> I didn't see a lot of activity on Discord for Ubuntu after a week or so
[14:22] <jeremy31> But activity has dropped drastically on ubuntuforums, askubuntu and in #ubuntu in the past 7-10 years
[15:44] <arraybolt3> the Ubuntu Hideout discord community is unofficial, and I don't use Discord so no comment there (though I hear good things about them). Nowadays Matrix and IRC are kind of like the catch-all for support questions but generally have questions of an easier or quicker nature, and Ask Ubuntu has the harder ones. The Ubuntu Forums... I wish they were more visible *and* easier to use. I used to
[15:44] <arraybolt3> be "into" them, but the difficulty of getting logged in and interacting was enough to push me away, and now I'm too busy for them most of the time :P
[15:45] <arraybolt3> were it up to me we'd spin up a Discourse instance in their place that had all old data migrated over, all accounts seemlessly migrated in, and all features and more still present, but that has probably about as much chance of happening as there's a chance of the sun exploding in the next fifteen seconds, so...
[15:46] <arraybolt3> and we can't just gut out the forums and replace them with an equivalent Discourse instance since Discourse doesn't have all the same features I don't think, and definitely won't end up with all the same community.
[15:48] <jeremy31> arraybolt3: Difficulty logging into ubuntuforums?  I only get logged out on my phone
[15:49] <arraybolt3> the trouble is it automatically logs me out all the time, I don't notice I'm logged out, I click on an interesting category and post, I go to reply... and then realize I'm logged out. So I click the login button, I do the SSO dance, I get redirected back to the forums... and now I'm on the home page and have to figure out where the post I was on now is, which I may or may not remember how
[15:49] <arraybolt3> to get back to.
[15:50] <arraybolt3> so then I leave the forums since I now no longer remember why I was there, and go do something else. Then I come back to the forums one day and find an interesting post, only to discover that I'm logged out 😅
[15:50] <jeremy31> Sounds like IP address is changing or a cookie issue
[15:50] <arraybolt3> I figured there was just an auto-log-out feature.
[15:52] <arraybolt3> (The above vicious cycle doesn't *always* happen obviously, sometimes I remember right where I was at and go and interact, but it takes like thirty seconds from "oh let's reply" to "finally typing reply", and that gets old fast.)
[15:52] <jeremy31> I rarely get logged out on a laptop, probably happens a lot on my phone.  I get logged out on my phone when I switch from cellular and connect to wifi at work
[15:52] <arraybolt3> ah
[15:53] <jeremy31> With my old cell provider I could get logged out while replying to a post
[15:53] <arraybolt3> It could be my ISP then, I'm on a Calyx Institute mobile hotspot.
[15:54] <arraybolt3> which is basically unlimited T-Mobile internet
[15:54] <arraybolt3> inb4 someone says "get a real ISP", I tried, even DSL doesn't want anything to do with me thanks to where I live
[15:55] <jeremy31> I am in a similar situation, it is either cellular or satellite
[15:56] <arraybolt3> the other day I was in a Google Meet session with my boss while sharing my screen, and did an Internet speed test in the middle of the meeting. He said, out loud, "oh that's horrible" XD
[15:56] <arraybolt3> I actually am happy with my speeds, but... yeah, it's not the fastest thing in the world, and not always the most stable either.
[15:58] <jeremy31> I might see 15 mbps down on a good day
[15:59] <arraybolt3> mine is usually closer to 24 mbps down on a good day, between 8 and 16 normally. Upload speeds are like 500kbps or worse.
[16:00] <arraybolt3> better than nothing though, I've lived with a *lot* slower.
[16:00] <jeremy31> I looked up my IP addresses on the forums and had used over 1000 different ones
[16:01] <arraybolt3> wow
[16:06] <jeremy31> And my hotspot device uses totally different IPs than my phone, the only difference is that the hotspot is a prepaid account