[00:13] <arraybolt3> so I think something must be wrong with the Calamares bootloader config, since it seems to have failed to install a UEFI bootloader at all.
[00:13] <arraybolt3> Not sure what's up there, will have to debug shortly.
[00:14] <arraybolt3> actually it may all have just been a problem with my system's clock being out of date
[00:14] <arraybolt3> anyway, after much trials, I finally got Kubuntu 24.04 installed :P
[00:14]  * arraybolt3 afk for a while
[00:23] <arraybolt3> back for a bit
[00:26] <arraybolt3> ok so it's the WiFi code's fault :(
[01:27] <arraybolt3> found the bug
[01:27] <arraybolt3> I'm pretending like there's always an active connection when there might not be
[01:28] <arraybolt3> and dereferencing a null pointer in so doing
[04:30] <arraybolt3> Got *most* bugs sorted out in the installer prompt network stuff. There's one that's going to be a bit harder to squish than the others, which is why I haven't uploaded yet, but stay tuned.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:01] <sgmoore> hiyas
[17:34] <mmikowski> Hi everyone!
[17:35]  * sgmoore waves
[17:37] <arraybolt3> Looks like the big bad last bug is just about squished in kubuntu-installer-prompt
[17:37] <arraybolt3> I'll almost certainly be doing an upload later today, which will get the networking stuff working much better.
[17:38] <arraybolt3> also, 22.04.4 release day is tomorrow, so I'm going to be testing like crazy.
[17:41] <sgmoore> Did the general test cases myself. Still have the default webbrowser could be dash problem, release-notes opens kate, don't think I can fix it with one days notice haha
[19:12] <arraybolt3> Uploaded and pushed to git.
[19:12] <arraybolt3> (kubuntu-installer-prompt I mean)
[21:35] <mmikowski> hey aaron, does the installer look like the mockup?
[21:38] <arraybolt3> Pretty dang close, yes.
[21:39] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: https://i.imgur.com/ic8oCKO.png
[21:41] <arraybolt3> Only known issue I still haven't sorted out is that if you select a right-to-left language, the entire UI flips to match with a right-to-left layout, and that messes with the CSS I'm using to position the drop-down arrows on the combo boxes.
[21:41] <arraybolt3> because Qt can't figure out that it needs to turn my "shift left" into a "shift right" if it's going to flip the whole entire app horizontally
[21:42] <arraybolt3> so anyways I'll have to figure out how to do that part myself.
[21:42] <arraybolt3> or figure out what I did wrong with CSS
[21:42] <mmikowski> hey, yeah, pretty dang close
[21:43] <mmikowski> $0.02 (unsolicited) 😁
[21:43] <arraybolt3> (I don't blame the Qt devs for not making the CSS positioning work right, I'm probably just misusing the feature somehow. But I am a bit frustrated :P
[21:43] <mmikowski> I can help with CSS
[21:43] <mmikowski> I know it quite well
[21:44] <arraybolt3> but can you figure out the undocumented setting that lets you tell Qt to *not* put the arrow in the completely wrong spot without using a margin setting?
[21:44] <mmikowski> my $0.02 comment was more space between the two selectors would be good.
[21:44] <mmikowski> They seem a little cramped.
[21:44] <arraybolt3> hmm, that's a thought
[21:44] <mmikowski> But otherwise, pretty super
[21:44] <arraybolt3> I kind of liked how close they were to each other, and am not sure if moving them closer will be easy.
[21:44] <arraybolt3> er, moving them further apart
[21:45] <arraybolt3> but it might be worth a shot, and we can do it in the same upload as when we fix the arrows, if we fix them :P
[21:45] <mmikowski> Yeah, I think 1.5x the current space
[21:45] <mmikowski> so if it's currently 16px, 24px probably would look better
[21:46] <mmikowski> maybe 32px
[21:46] <arraybolt3> the problem is right now the way it's implemented isn't "16px" or "24px", right now it's implemented as "no spacer"
[21:46] <mmikowski> Yeah, I know :)
[21:46] <arraybolt3> and adding a spacer will increase the width by about three or four times and shift all the other elements XD
[21:46] <arraybolt3> which can be worked around, or perhaps some CSS margin magic can fix it more easily
[21:46] <mmikowski> well, I mean, I figured it was a spacer element in QT.
[21:46] <mmikowski> margin magic is good
[21:47] <arraybolt3> actually I guess you can make a height limited spacer, and it should scale right
[21:47] <arraybolt3> so it might be easier than I think
[21:47] <mmikowski> The other bit missing I think is the drop shadows.
[21:48] <mmikowski> The edges on the buttons IMO should pop somehow; 
[21:48] <mmikowski> if not a spread shadow, maybe a line.
[21:48] <arraybolt3> yeah, sadly drop shadows are ERR:FEATURE_MISSING_IN_QT
[21:48] <mmikowski> haha
[21:48] <arraybolt3> unless we port to Qt Quick
[21:48] <mmikowski> yeah, thought maybe
[21:48] <arraybolt3> which I'm not all that excited about doing
[21:49] <mmikowski> Contain your enthusiasm 😜
[21:49] <mmikowski> so then option B:
[21:49] <mmikowski> edge treatment, which can be trivial.
[21:49] <arraybolt3> how would that be done?
[21:49] <mmikowski> here, I'll snag sand mock
[21:50] <arraybolt3> (The trouble is I say CSS, but it's not really CSS, it's Qt Style Sheets, which are to CSS like what QML is to JavaScript, though not quite that bad.)
[21:50] <mmikowski> hahah
[21:50] <mmikowski> well generally it's a subset
[21:50] <arraybolt3> essentially trying to do anything "fancy" will fail with an "unrecognized property" error.
[21:50] <mmikowski> So when it's there, it's the same
[21:51] <arraybolt3> right
[21:51] <mmikowski> and when it's not, you're out of luck
[21:51] <mmikowski> that's not too bad
[21:52] <arraybolt3> well, at any rate, if you want to pull-lp-source kubuntu-installer-prompt and fiddle with the style sheet values on the buttons themselves, you'll be able to see what is possible and maybe get it working.
[21:52] <arraybolt3> or I can share the stylesheet with you and you can tell me what to change
[21:52] <arraybolt3> that's probably easier
[21:53] <mmikowski> So some aspects of your design actually look better than the mock.
[21:53] <mmikowski> In particular, I like the larger font.
[21:56] <mmikowski> https://kfocus.org/NobleDev.f9150309/noble-installer-mockup-01.png
[21:56] <mmikowski> That has drop shadows
[21:56] <mmikowski> notice how the text areas and buttons are the same color
[21:57] <mmikowski> *drop shadows =~ spread shadows
[21:57] <mmikowski> Instead of spread shadows, the top combo boxes have a white border
[21:57] <mmikowski> so a similar thing might be done for the buttons.
[21:58] <mmikowski> Lemme upload a mock, and then we can take it off line at your convenience
[21:59] <mmikowski> ok
[22:07] <mmikowski> https://i.imgur.com/e0nmU9H.png
[22:08] <arraybolt3> hmm, that's a thpught
[22:09] <arraybolt3> dog needs outside, but we'll come back and see if this is feasible in a bit. Will that work for you?
[22:11] <mmikowski> sure aaron. I'm again completely fine doing this dm.
[22:12] <mmikowski> The right color for the buttons / inputs are probably somewhere inbetween.
[22:29] <mmikowski> https://i.imgur.com/pqXoJkV.png
[23:41] <arraybolt3> there it is
[23:42] <arraybolt3> not yet
[23:42] <arraybolt3> need to add that
[23:44] <arraybolt3> yeah
[23:44] <arraybolt3> ok, you're going to hate this, but...
[23:44] <arraybolt3> problem
[23:45] <arraybolt3> so we need to style those, but this part doesn't support radius.
[23:45] <arraybolt3> the actual drop-down itself
[23:45] <arraybolt3> almost
[23:45] <arraybolt3> did you see it?
[23:45] <arraybolt3> yeah
[23:45] <arraybolt3> can you not see me?