[00:22] <RjG> loaded question... is there an updated guide for 23.10 or a tool to convert an existing swap part on a secondary drive to an encrypted swap that will automount on system boot?
[00:27] <Voidwarper> Why kernels are used by 23.10, and 22.04
[00:31] <RjG> 23.10 uses 6.5.0-17 atm
[00:32] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic jammy
[00:34] <RjG> I believe that there is a PPA that can be used to move the Jammy kernel up to the current release version.
[00:35] <Eickmeyer> !info linux-image-generic-hwe
[00:35] <EriC^^> Voidwarper: 5.15.0 for 22.04 but with the hwe it runs 6.5.0-18
[00:35] <Eickmeyer> !info linux-image-generic-hwe jammy
[00:36] <Eickmeyer> meh, wrong order
[00:36]  * Eickmeyer goes back to the darkness
[02:30] <jakobe> hi yall
[06:10] <darwin> i got error message 'Package seamonkey is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:10] <darwin> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source' but couldn't find which package supposedly refers to it (apparently no seamonkey command is existent)
[06:10] <darwin> didn't mean to do new line there (error message continued)
[06:10] <dogebutbanana> sa
[06:11] <dogebutbanana> tuca donka tuca donka
[06:11] <biilki> as
[06:11] <bilal> a
[06:11] <mandem0110> !english | dogebutbanana
[06:11] <bilal> ananı
[06:11] <dogebutbanana> lan kufur etme burda
[06:11] <sarpeyc> a
[06:12] <mandem0110> darwin: think you need to build SeaMonkey from source :(
[06:12] <darwin> no, you don't--there's a PPA
[06:13] <mandem0110> PPA's aren't supported here...
[06:13] <darwin> i see
[06:14] <darwin> i'm not 100% sure it's a PPA
[06:14] <alpin> Is there any particular reason PPA's aren't supported here, besides the fact the code is not in the Ubuntu respository?
[06:14] <darwin> since it didn't appear in /etc/apt/sources.list.d even on a PC that didn't have this error
[06:15] <darwin> it's bad grammar to use apostrophes on things that aren't possessive ('PPAs')
[06:15] <mandem0110> Grammar police....
[06:15] <alpin> darwin: I'm not here for your grammar lessons.  Now be polite, or I won't talk to you
[06:16] <darwin> instructions I followed are www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntuzilla?dist=all
[06:16] <mandem0110> Yeah that's *not* supported. Like I said, build from source.
[06:17] <darwin> source is where the source code comes from.  You build from source code
[06:17] <alpin> It's bad manners to call people out on minute grammar errors, that you think are wrong.  Concider all help from me to you ceased.
[06:17] <mandem0110> alpin: me too. :)
[06:17] <darwin> it's good manners to help people with grammar
[06:18] <darwin> some people are grateful, and others don't want to follow it, but that's their decision either way
[06:18]  * mandem0110 yawns
[06:18] <alpin> mandem0110: This guy doesn't know when to stop!
[06:19] <darwin> to call someone out normally refers to using their (nick)name (which I didn't do, but you did)
[06:20] <alpin> darwin: STOP being an annoying jerk, just because you can.  I didn't speak to you to berate you like you've berated me. Now SHUT IT and STOP talking to me, NOW!
[06:20] <mandem0110> darwin: can we help you with anything else? you got your answer about your unsupported PPA...
[06:21] <darwin> please be polite: don't insult people.  I didn't berate you
[06:21] <alpin> Thank God, the ungrateful jerk
[06:21] <mandem0110> alpin: welcome to IRC! :)
[06:22] <alpin> mandem0110, I'm not new to IRC, I just get tired of the BS
[06:22] <alpin> mandem0110, I thought the rules of netiquette were stronger in here
[06:22] <mandem0110> Well, you're breaking rules too. So.....
[06:23]  * mandem0110 that's enough from me now (:
[06:23] <alpin> mandem0110:  Which rules?  Or would we rather let this drop?
[06:44] <r1911> i can't believe this is not #linux!
[06:44] <mandem0110> Well, you better believe it. :)
[06:45] <r1911> there's some weird chanops there
[06:49] <mandem0110> !offtopic | r1911
[07:36] <r1911> no, thank you
[07:36] <r1911> i salvaged an old laptop with ubuntu
[07:36]  * enyc meows r1911 
[07:37] <mandem0110> r1911: can we help you with a support question?
[07:37] <r1911> mandem0110: no
[07:37] <mandem0110> Then /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:37] <r1911> mandem0110: no
[09:33] <masber> why the CEO of canonical praised appimage but then ubuntu uses snapcraft?
[09:35] <oerheks> appimage was initiated in 2004, so long ago
[09:39] <masber> old does not mean it does not work
[09:39] <masber> in some cases is a good thing
[09:39] <masber> more mature
[09:39] <masber> are you saying snap has more features?
[09:40] <oerheks> snaps certainly give more control, yes. why these questions?
[09:41] <masber> because I would like to explore these technologies and adopt them
[09:41] <masber> instead of containers
[09:41] <masber> to encapsulate my apps and distribute them
[09:42] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/docs
[09:42] <oerheks> and there is #snappy for support
[09:43] <masber> ok, I will explore snap as well, thank you
[09:43] <masber> :)
[09:43] <oerheks> have fun!
[11:56] <dumbledoor> Whenever some system package that I installed by apt breaks on my system, should my first step be to check the logs through journalctl?
[11:58] <oerheks> apt install -f # fixes many dependencie errors dumbledoor
[11:59] <oerheks> but your initial question in #fedora .. ??
[12:01] <dumbledoor> Oh you noticed. well I just want to know more about journalctl works. It's on Ubuntu as well right.
[12:01] <dumbledoor> How can I check the logs for a particular package using journalctl?
[12:04] <oerheks> Why? ask in your distro channel please
[12:05] <dumbledoor> Yeah, you are right. Sorry.
[12:09] <oerheks> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/viewing-logs/
[12:59] <AITroll> Hi, I have a ubuntu problem, please
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> !ask | AITroll
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:15] <masterkorp> Hello, has any of you get got a dual screen foldable usb display working on linux ?
[14:18] <oerheks> care to share on what ubuntu? and what 'dual screen foldable usb display '?
[14:19] <masterkorp> Latest
[14:19] <masterkorp> The screen is a Uperfect delta foldable screen
[14:19] <masterkorp> displaylink
[14:20] <masterkorp> I have displaylink working on a usb dock with 2 screens
[14:20] <leftyfb> masterkorp: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; lsusb ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:21] <masterkorp> nifty command, port 9999 is blocked here, but I will paste you those
[14:22] <oerheks> " Single cable doesn't seem to work and cant seem to power it with certain devices." https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1594796391/uperfect-delta-folding-portable-monitor/comments
[14:23] <oerheks> cable issue..
[14:23] <masterkorp> oerheks, I think i have tried
[14:25] <oerheks> for windows they provide an update.. i find no linux users yet.
[14:47] <masterkorp> But I use upstream displaylink
[14:52] <leftyfb> masterkorp: sudo apt install pastebinit && ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; lsusb ) | pastebinit dpaste.com
[14:53] <leftyfb> sorry
[14:53] <leftyfb> masterkorp: sudo apt install pastebinit && ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; lsusb ) | pastebinit -b dpaste.com
[14:53] <masterkorp> No worries, I know how to pastebin, thank you
[14:54] <masterkorp> the device is  345f:9132 YC USB Video
[14:54] <leftyfb> masterkorp: please paste the pastebin URL from the output of the entire command
[14:55] <oerheks> only usb-c can do it? anyway, no posts to find from linux users that fixed the 2nd screen.
[14:55] <oerheks> good luck!
[14:57] <leftyfb> masterkorp: if you just copy and paste the command I gave you into your terminal, it should give you a URL that you just paste here. No need to type anything manually
[14:57] <oerheks> avoiding to show he is not running ubuntu?
[15:01] <masterkorp> what is most annoying is that if I use both hdmi and usb display then I get the 3 displays in the system
[15:02] <masterkorp> but the top screen keeps dark
[15:02] <masterkorp> I have to switch the sources
[15:03] <leftyfb> masterkorp: let us know when you get that pastebin URL to post here and we'll be glad to help you
[15:04] <dtomato1> ah, hardware troubles ... gotta love those ... I would know... I just got a new printer! :-D
[15:04] <Idrogeno> Morning, friends.  My "Super" key has stopped working for showing the activities pane after some recent updates, known?
[15:08] <oerheks> Idrogeno, on what hardware?
[15:09] <Idrogeno> x86_64/amd ryzen
[15:10] <oerheks> try the first 2 tricks.. https://devicetests.com/fixing-super-key-issue-ubuntu
[15:10] <dtomato> funnily enough, printer works fantastic, but setting up was a right pain in the ass on *one* machine, where for some reason `ippfind` fails to work correctly :(  on another machine (both up to date and all) it works flawlessly ... I tried compiling latest version of cups and `ippfind` from there works just fine ... I can't seem to debug the issue
[15:10] <dtomato> :-/
[15:11] <Idrogeno> Theres no fn key.  I've already tried that google result :)
[15:12] <masterkorp> leftyfb https://bpa.st/TBFN4
[15:12] <leftyfb> !next | masterkorp
[15:13] <leftyfb> masterkorp: you're running an unreleased and unsupported release of ubuntu. Please go to #ubuntu-next to help report bugs
[15:13] <masterkorp> Man, so much for no help
[15:13] <masterkorp> thank you for your effort still
[15:13] <masterkorp> !beer
[15:14] <Idrogeno> I'm using xorg and not wayland, so maybe theres something "broken" there?
[15:14] <leftyfb> masterkorp: you're running a release that is still under development. The only reason you should be running it is to find and report bugs. There is no expectation of anything properly working
[15:17] <Idrogeno> @oerheks thanks for the direction.. This keyboard has a "gaming mode" button I've never touched or seen, and apparently it disabled my winkey.  Just happened to push the button around a restart.
[15:18] <oerheks> Idrogeno, nice spot!
[15:19] <dtomato> Idrogeno: hah! I had a keyboard like that once, and I've had on occasion run into the case where I forgot to re-enabled that key :D
[15:20] <Idrogeno> I finally found the "keyboard input test" in ubuntu settings and saw it wasn't being registered at all, but the lack of an Fn key threw me off
[15:20] <dtomato> what kind of obscure key combination do you have to do to turn it on and off then if it doesn't have Fn key or some form of dedicated switch?
[15:21] <Idrogeno> It has a "G" button in the top left
[15:22] <Idrogeno> thats apparently a "gaming mode"
[15:24] <dtomato> heh, well yeah, you don't want to tab out of the game and messing those headshots!
[16:56] <Guest95> hello everyone
[16:57] <oerheks> :-)
[17:02] <iconoclast_hero> is there any sort of official guidance on how to add a new btrfs OS to the existing GRUB?
[17:02] <iconoclast_hero> for whatever reason, grub-update doesn't want to add anything including the windows partition that was originally there.
[17:02] <iconoclast_hero> which is annoying, but i can't get it to see the OS i just put on a btrfs part.
[17:02] <iconoclast_hero> and the advice out there sucks.
[17:04] <oerheks> that would be the OS-prober blocking
[17:05] <oerheks> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/grub-doesnt-detect-windows-linux-distros-fix
[17:05] <oerheks> blocked due to security reasons.
[17:06] <oerheks> no experience with btrfs, but this guide should work https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/102bjk7/a_great_howto_for_setting_up_timeshift_and/
[17:07] <iconoclast_hero> oh.
[17:07] <iconoclast_hero> mother f-cker.
[17:08] <iconoclast_hero> that was a simple fix.
[17:08] <iconoclast_hero> thank you
[17:08] <iconoclast_hero> it's great that canonical put that information in the grub-update script they're using.
[17:08] <oerheks> have fun!
[17:08] <iconoclast_hero> so that end users don't waste hours upon hours trying to figure out what the f-ck is going on.
[17:08] <iconoclast_hero> there's a better way for the btrfs though
[17:09] <oerheks> oh good to know, thanks.
[17:10] <iconoclast_hero> i can't find it
[17:10] <iconoclast_hero> sorry
[17:11] <iconoclast_hero> so basically, i nvme0n1p10 is the new btrfs part...
[17:11] <iconoclast_hero> $ cd /media/; mkdir ./10; sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p10 ./10; cd 10; ln -s @/boot /boot; ln -s @/etc /etc
[17:11] <iconoclast_hero> then sudo os-prober to make sure it will find it
[17:12] <iconoclast_hero> then you can sudo update-grub
[17:12] <iconoclast_hero> its also anoying that I can't export that grub variable so i can enable the os-prober temporarily
[17:13] <iconoclast_hero> https://askubuntu.com/questions/967172/grub2-does-not-detect-btrfs-partition/1032354#1032354
[17:13] <iconoclast_hero> ^^
[17:13] <iconoclast_hero> that except that it doesn't work for the current OS which is probably moot.  once one bootsinto the other os, it would behoove one to also do it on the root of that brtrfs part as well.
[17:15] <iconoclast_hero> ok, time to see if it worked.
[17:35] <sem> i am trying a usb live image for lubuntu, so far it doesn't work after grub... trying to figure out if it is a me problem, or a bios/hardware problem
[17:37] <sem> it boots from USB into grub, but then when I select a bootline from grub, it hangs after "booting a command list"
[17:37] <diogeness> sem: how did you write the ISO to the USB drive?
[17:37] <sem> etcher
[17:37] <sem> on windows
[17:38] <diogeness> ok as soon as you reach grub menu hit 'e'.
[17:38] <sem> i found this which blames bios https://askubuntu.com/questions/1307514/live-usb-hangs-after-selecting-grub-menu-entry-new-pc
[17:38] <sem> already did diogeness
[17:38] <sem> now I am getting "error: unknown filesystem" underneath 'booting a command list' so that's progress
[17:39] <diogeness> on the linux line remove quiet splash and replace it with noapic
[17:39] <diogeness> then hit ctrl+x and see if you get any output.
[17:40] <sem> thanks I'll try noapic. Maybe I should try another USB drive also
[17:40] <sem> what is the diffrence between noapic and no1apic
[17:41] <sem> diogeness, now I get "error: attempt to read outside hd00, load the kernel first" or something like that -- it went back to grub
[17:42] <diogeness> yeah pretty much could be a BIOS issue.
[17:43] <sem> ok... maybe i can install windows and upgrade bios
[17:44] <diogeness> good idea ^^^
[17:50] <iconoclast_hero> hey so yeah, that got it to grub.
[17:50] <iconoclast_hero> it won't boot up, but i assume that if i get to a kernel panic that's not the fault of grub.
[18:04] <sem> looks like it IS installing now with a different USB drive -- it is just extremely slow
[18:04] <sem> e.g. took a long time for any messages to show up on screen
[18:05] <sem> s/installing/booting/
[18:18] <chico_> To get to activities menu try double tapping the windows key
[18:35] <dave> hi everyone wasin a linux irc last night am was told to check out ubunto studioas i was getting stuck in other distros soits now on my laptop look nice clean works well no dout i wil be in and out of here when i get stuck bye for now
[18:36] <oerheks> there is #ubuntustudio too, here on #libera
[18:37] <oerheks> have fun!
[18:38] <dave> this is ubunto studio 22.4 i think had a good review
[18:39] <chico_> dave: This is ubuntu support
[18:40] <dave> sorry all new to me
[18:40] <dave> wont bother anyone
[18:40] <chico_> Are you using HexChat?
[18:40] <oerheks> chico_, that is oke, but for specific apps questions they are the 1st desk
[18:40] <oerheks> we do any ubuntu flavor..
[18:40] <dave> thank you
[19:21] <Taylor46> Hello, I've got a problem with installing the linux on a Ubuntu 23.04 system. I've added the required links to my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs/list https://dpaste.com/3BDDTQ3R9, but when I run sudo apt-get update, I get the following output https://dpaste.com/GZDAPUQGU. If anyone has any suggestions as to what the problem could be, that would be
[19:21] <Taylor46> great.
[19:22] <Taylor46> Hello, I've got a problem with installing the linux kernel with debug symbols on a Ubuntu 23.04 system. I've added the required links to my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs/list https://dpaste.com/3BDDTQ3R9, but when I run sudo apt-get update, I get the following output https://dpaste.com/GZDAPUQGU. If anyone has any suggestions as to what the problem
[19:22] <Taylor46> could be, that would be great.
[19:22] <Taylor46> Whoops, didn't mean to double post. Apologies
[19:23] <ravage> install 23.10
[19:24] <leftyfb> Taylor46: Ubuntu 23.04 is End of Life and no longer supported
[19:24] <ravage> or the latest LTS release: 22.04
[19:25] <leftyfb> that's always my preferred suggestion
[19:25] <oerheks> for nerds who want to help testing, #next LTS will be released in april
[19:25] <oerheks> !next
[19:27] <Taylor46> I don't think I'm able to update the system, since it's a managed PC. If there's an alternate solution that would be preferable
[19:28] <leftyfb> Taylor46: tell whoever manages it to update it
[19:29] <Voidwarper> I installed 22.04.2 LTS and if run the 6.5 kernel
[19:29] <Voidwarper> I want the 5.15 kernel, can I get 22.04
[19:30] <Voidwarper> Also what is the hwe kernel
[19:30] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: yes, from ubuntu.com
[19:30] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/22.04/release/
[19:31] <Voidwarper> How can I see which kernel this runs
[19:31] <oerheks> oops, wrong
[19:31] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: uname -a
[19:31] <Voidwarper> I mean before downloading it
[19:32] <Voidwarper> Also does the net installer have support for wifi firmware? I want to get this as it's smaller
[19:32] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: why do you need a specific kernel?
[19:32] <Voidwarper> I have issues with newer kernels
[19:32] <Voidwarper> With Intel iris igpu
[19:33] <chico_> uname -r
[19:33] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: there is no "net installer"
[19:34] <Voidwarper> I saw a net installer at alternate downloads
[19:34] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: are you saying 6.5 does or doesn't work with your GPU?
[19:34] <Voidwarper> It causes artifacts like screen blanking for a sec
[19:35] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: which kernel on which distro did you try where you got there?
[19:35] <leftyfb> that*
[19:35] <Voidwarper> I tried Ubuntu and others
[19:36] <Voidwarper> The 6.1 LTS performed the best
[19:36] <Voidwarper> But I want to try the 5.15 line
[19:36] <chico_> if the 5.15 kernel is installed you can boot into it thru the grub menu
[19:36] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: so you tried Ubuntu 22.04 with the latest 6.5 kernel that was just released last night?
[19:37] <Voidwarper> I am on 22.04.02 now with 6.5
[19:37] <chico_> this is the output of uname -a on my system
[19:37] <chico_> Linux EVC141-6bk 6.5.0-18-generic #18~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Feb  7 11:40:03 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:37] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: then you are wildly out of date
[19:37] <Voidwarper> What do you mean
[19:38] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:38] <leftyfb> run that and reboot, then come back here
[19:38] <Voidwarper> This won't help me, I tried the latest stable kernel as well
[19:38] <Voidwarper> As the mainline
[19:38] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04
[19:38] <leftyfb> run that and reboot, then come back here
[19:39] <Voidwarper> What version is the generic hwe
[19:39] <Voidwarper> 6.75?
[19:39] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: please run the commands
[19:39] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: reboot then come back here
[19:40] <Voidwarper> I am on 22.04.2 iso
[19:40] <Voidwarper> Which I just got
[19:40] <Voidwarper> It's up to date
[19:40] <leftyfb> it's not
[19:40] <leftyfb> ok, install ubuntu, update all the packages, reboot and come back here
[19:41] <oerheks> if you updated, you would be on 22.04.5 now, with that 6.5 kernel?
[19:42] <leftyfb> 22.04.4
[19:42] <leftyfb> which was released less than 24 hours ago
[19:43] <oerheks> lsb_release -a   .. oh right
[19:44] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: also, booting from the live iso is not a definitive method to test hardware
[19:45] <Voidwarper> I am on 22.04.4
[19:46] <Voidwarper> Just installed
[19:46] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: please run the following:   ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; lspci | grep -i vga ; lsblk ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:47] <leftyfb> then paste the resulting URL here
[19:47] <Voidwarper> Ok
[19:51] <Voidwarper> https://termbin.com/n8fu
[19:52] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: are you still getting artifacts?
[19:52] <Voidwarper> Yes
[19:52] <Voidwarper> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220223
[19:52] <Voidwarper> This is the issue
[19:52] -ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.opensuse.org bug 1220223 in openSUSE Tumbleweed "Screen flashing before and after GDM login on Iris Xe Graphics" [Normal, New]
[19:53] <Voidwarper> I had a video recorded on opensuse, the same happens on Ubuntu
[19:53] <Voidwarper> It was slightly better on Debian which runs the 6.1 kernel, but still not perfect
[19:53] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: sudo apt install linux-image-generic &&  sudo apt remove linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04
[19:53] <Voidwarper> Oo
[19:54] <leftyfb> you could also try the oem kernel
[19:54] <leftyfb> sudo apt-get install linux-oem-22.04d
[19:55] <Voidwarper> I will try the generic you said and report
[19:55] <leftyfb> I would pick one or the other
[19:56] <Voidwarper> I did install the Linux image generic and remove the hwe
[19:57] <Voidwarper> Uname -r says 6.5.0-21-generic after reboot
[19:57] <leftyfb> you'll need to reboot into the 5.15 kernel
[19:57] <Voidwarper> Also grub menu doesn't appear
[19:58] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: apt list installed linux-image* | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:59] <Voidwarper> termbin.com/z1pe
[20:00] <leftyfb> oh, sorry
[20:00] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: apt list --installed linux-image* | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:01] <Voidwarper> termbin.com/2qeq
[20:01] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: sudo apt remove linux-image-6.5.0-18-generic linux-image-6.5.0-21-generic
[20:03] <phchu> hi
[20:04] <Voidwarper> The problem persists on 5.15
[20:04] <Voidwarper> I suspect the Intel microcode
[20:04] <Voidwarper> Can I remove it?
[20:05] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: the oem kernel is 6.1
[20:05] <Voidwarper> Ok will try the oem
[20:05] <leftyfb> and is typically for cutting edge hardware
[20:06] <leftyfb> you'll need to remove the 5.15 kernel after you install the oem kernel
[20:13] <Voidwarper> Problem persists, how can I remove Intel microcode without removing the kernel
[20:13] <Voidwarper> I think Debian worked better because of older Intel microcode
[20:14] <Voidwarper> Because I tried the same kernel 6.1 here too and it didn't behave well
[20:14] <Voidwarper> I want to remove or rollback the firmware for i915
[20:17] <leftyfb> Voidwarper: try: sudo apt install linux-firmware
[20:17] <Voidwarper> It's installed
[20:17] <Voidwarper> I found a thread where a similar issue was fixed by downgrading Intel ucode
[20:18] <Voidwarper> Intel microcode basically
[20:18] <Voidwarper> Does Ubuntu keep an archieve?
[20:19] <Voidwarper> I have version 3. 2023 11 14
[20:19] <Voidwarper> I want one from 2022
[20:20] <oerheks> sure they are to be found on launchpad
[20:21] <oerheks> but i think such action might wreck your install? it is not just the microcode, also kernel patches..;
[20:22] <Voidwarper> I am on oem kernel, I found a thread using iucode-tool to downgrade to an older Intel microcode
[20:22] <sarnold> Voidwarper: there's a snapshot service that might be helpful https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-snapshots-on-azure-ensuring-predictability-and-consistency-in-cloud-deployments
[20:23] <sarnold> (don't worry about all the azure stuff all over that blogpost)
[20:23] <Voidwarper> That's nice. Just have to figure the timestamp
[20:24] <sarnold> yeah
[20:24] <sarnold> hopefully that's only a few reboots ;)
[20:24] <oerheks> you might better try GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=“quiet splash i915.enable_psr=0”
[20:25] <oerheks> from https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404771/screen-flicker-after-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-22-04  and   confirmed at https://forum.manjaro.org/t/what-going-on-with-intels-iris-xe-graphics/113171/9
[21:49] <jcdutton> Has anyone else had problems install ubuntu from the 22.04 iso, booting from USB stick?   If I select custom partitions the installer just crashes with a long error log.   Has anyone actually tested the customer partitions option.
[21:49] <jcdutton> s/customer/custom
[21:52] <oerheks> on what type of hardware? UEFI or legacy mbr?
[21:52] <oerheks> other OS installed? like windows with their hybernate/fstboot?
[21:52] <oerheks> c/fastboot
[21:58] <jcdutton> oerheks, it is on UEFI.  If it helps, debian minimal installer installs fine.
[21:58] <oerheks> do you use the 1st 24.04 iso, or recent 24.04.4 ?
[21:59] <jcdutton> oerheks, it was this image: ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso
[21:59] <leftyfb> oerheks: %s/24/22/g
[21:59] <oerheks> oops, typo
[22:03] <jcdutton> oerheks, my custom partition is quite simple. 256MB for fat32 EFI, 1G for /BOOT ext2, and the rest of the disk encrypted with a btrfs filesystems
[22:04] <jcdutton> oerheks, exactly the same partition table installs fine with debian. debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
[22:09] <oerheks> i find this post, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2488588&p=14150479#post14150479
[22:12] <jcdutton> oerheks, ok, so the ubuntu installer basically fails if you try btrfs ?
[22:13] <oerheks> not sure that statement is true, 1st line ".. but it does not have installer template scripts like the Desktop Edition. "
[22:13] <oerheks> leftyfb, ^^ ??
[22:14] <jcdutton> oerheks, what is the template bit do?  I am doing a customer partition, so why is a template needed?
[22:15] <jcdutton> It would be ok if it came back and said something like "not a supported partition combination, letting me adjust it until it is happy, but it instead crashes the installer.
[22:17] <oerheks> you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server
[22:17] <oerheks> i have no clue there
[22:26] <jcdutton> oerheks, I have looked at another forum thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491181       Ubuntu staff who respond seem to have a really bad attitude
[22:29] <sarnold> forums tend to foster that, even worse than irc
[22:30] <jeremy31> jcdutton: staff emeritus are retired staff members
[22:46] <bray90820> What does this error meanusb 1-5 device descriptor read 64 error 110
[22:46] <bray90820> usb 1-5 device descriptor read 64 error 110
[22:47] <jeremy31> bray90820: It could be a power issue on USB bus
[22:47] <bray90820> Even when nothing is plugged into said USB ports?
[22:49] <bray90820> jeremy31:
[22:49] <jeremy31> bray90820: Might be a faulty device?
[22:49] <bray90820> I hope not
[22:49] <jeremy31> bray90820: some webcams and most bluetooth devices use the USB bus
[22:49] <JanC> hope it's not the internal USB hub that is broken...
[22:50] <JanC> it could in theory also be a driver issue, but that's quite uncommon with USB nowadays
[22:50] <bray90820> This error happens even when nothing is plugged into the USB ports
[22:50] <bray90820> It happened after I replaced one of my fans
[22:50] <JanC> oh
[22:51] <JanC> hope you didn't break anything then
[22:51] <jeremy31> bray90820: Post URL from terminal for>  lsusb|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:51] <bray90820> There are currently USB devices plugged in just FYI
[22:52] <jcdutton> bray90820, USB messages like that can be caused by radio interference.
[22:52] <bray90820> Can you send the code again without pinging me
[22:52] <jeremy31> lsusb|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:53] <bray90820> https://termbin.com/fj56
[22:54] <bray90820> jeremy31: You got that?
[22:54] <jeremy31> bray90820: that shows a USB video device, a couple mice and an Asus AURA LED controller, and an ethernet device on USB
[22:55] <bray90820> Well I have a video card 1 mouse 1 keyboard and an ethernet port built into the motherboard
[22:56] <bray90820> I also have a scanner connected
[22:56] <bray90820> Oh I also have a USB3 hub and a USB3 KVM
[22:57] <JanC> if this error is on the internal USB hub (the one on the motherboard) then maybe also check if the wires that go to the USB sockets in various places in the computer case are properly connected?
[22:57] <jeremy31> Can you switch what port the KVM is on?
[22:57] <JanC> maybe you touched one of them while changing the fan...
[22:57] <bray90820> You mean like front USB ports?
[22:58] <jeremy31> bray90820: Maybe
[22:58] <JanC> yeah, for example (depends on the case where they are)
[22:58] <bray90820> Well I actually have the front USB ports disconnected currently
[22:58] <jeremy31> A lot of devices are on bus 001
[22:58] <bray90820> Nothing is connected to those headders
[22:58] <rhombus> I am using ufw and it does not appear to be working at all. As in, I have a default DENY policy, and I've added one rule for ssh (port 22), ufw status shows that rule and that it is active, and connections to ports other than 22 are getting through.
[22:59] <JanC> okay, that probably rules that out then
[22:59] <bray90820> So it's probablly the back USB ports?
[23:00] <JanC> those ports are usually directly on the motherboard, so it can't be a loose wire
[23:00] <bray90820> It happens even when no USB devices are connected
[23:01] <JanC> that's why I was thinking it's with (one of) the USB hub(s) on the motherboard
[23:02] <bray90820> Here is an image of the grub errors if you wanna have a look
[23:02] <bray90820> https://imgur.com/a/0jl5Pab
[23:03] <JanC> that's not a grub error  :)
[23:03] <JanC> and it says an USB device is connected
[23:04] <bray90820> I didn't mean it was a grub error i meant the errors show up after grub
[23:04] <bray90820> Should I disconenct every USB device and get  a new image?
[23:04] <JanC> there might be an internal device connected to USB
[23:04] <jeremy31> It almost has to be an issue with an internal hub
[23:04] <bray90820> So the board is bad?
[23:05] <JanC> you can try without anything connected to it
[23:05] <jeremy31> bray90820: URL for>  sudo dmesg|grep -i usb|nc termbin.com 9999
[23:05] <rhombus> I am also using lxd, which is known to "manage"/interfere with firewalls, in case that's relevant.
[23:06] <bray90820> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/rrse
[23:09] <jeremy31> I have no idea what the AURA LED Controller is, but it could be the problem
[23:10] <JanC> you might want to check visibly if all physical USB ports look okay (nothing damaged/broken or jammed in one of them that could cause a short for example :) )
[23:11] <bray90820> Actually It could very well be the LD
[23:12] <bray90820> I'm gonna try something I'll be right back
[23:12] <JanC> also, unplug/replug all devices 1 by 1 while watching "journalctl -f" could be useful to identify what device is "1-5"
[23:16] <JanC> rhombus: you should be able to use nft or iptables to see what firewall rules are actually loaded into the kernel
[23:19] <JanC> IIRC some stuff like routing/forwarding happens before the "normal" firewall rules that ufw sets?
[23:22] <JanC> maybe this is useful... https://documentation.ubuntu.com/lxd/en/latest/howto/network_bridge_firewalld/ ?
[23:29] <bray90820> So I umplugged every USB device and the LED and this is what I get
[23:29] <bray90820> https://imgur.com/a/cQH8eLY
[23:36] <oerheks> sounds like a hw issue, check for a bios update?
[23:37] <bray90820> oerheks: Talking to me?
[23:37] <oerheks> yes?
[23:38] <bray90820> Ok
[23:48] <rhombus> JanC, I discovered that a recent upgrade of lxd mangled the rules in iptables and basically ufw wasn't having any effect anymore.
[23:49] <rhombus> JanC, I've resolved the problem by disabling the firewall in lxd according to the instructions here https://documentation.ubuntu.com/lxd/en/latest/howto/network_bridge_firewalld/
[23:50] <rhombus> JanC, ha, I just saw that you linked that too :)
[23:50] <rhombus> JanC, I didn't consider this because it had been working without needing to explicitly disable it in lxd, but the upgrade did something to change that.
[23:51] <rhombus> Thanks for the tip all the same!
[23:56] <jcdutton> bray90820, it looks more like a RAM chip problem.  Those MCE errors are probably more the cause