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arraybolt3um, how on earth did Postfix become a dependency of something on a system that has just the base Ubuntu packages, Ubuntu dev tools, IceWM, and QTerminal installed?03:55
arraybolt3I don't want to run a mail server on my package builder VM 😭03:56
JackFrostapt list '?and(?installed, ?recommends(~npostfix))'  IIRC.04:32
arraybolt3`Listing... Done`04:34
arraybolt3no output04:34
JanCsome stuff (mostly servers?) depends on or recommends a mailserver to send mails when errors occur05:26
JanCmaybe some dev tools too (e.g. to send patches to LKML...)05:27
JanCit would not depend on postfix directly but on a metapackage (mail-transport-agent or something like that)05:30
JanCsomething like nullmailer should satisfy that too05:30
JanCor lsb-invalid-mta05:31
JanCthat one will just return an error every time something tries to send an e-mail  :)05:32
JanCso: apt list '?and(?installed, ?recommends(~nmail-transport-agent))'05:35
JanCarraybolt3: ^05:35
JanCe.g. buildd depends on an MTA05:40
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jbichaarraybolt3: bug 2054908 😭12:40
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2054908 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205490812:40
* JanC wonders if it makes sense to install lsb-invalid-mta by default...12:47
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arraybolt3jbicha: aha, lucky us :-/17:24
arraybolt3anyway I just set it to "local-only" mode and let it install.17:24
jbichawell go ahead and apt purge it afterwards then18:16

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