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bcn_is there a good explainer on how netboot netinstalls changed as of jammy?04:13
ravagehttps://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/ubuntu-jammy-netinstall-pxe.html04:13
bcn_hmm. jammy is no longer in https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/current/04:19
ravageget the release iso04:19
ravagebut if yoi need a daily for any reason: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/jammy/daily-live/current/04:20
bcn_I should probably pick up lunar while I'm at it04:20
ravagenever installed a non LTS server04:20
ravagebut have fun 🙂04:20
ravagei guess i would even prefer noble over lunar04:21
bcn_ravage: huh.  that same url pattern doesn't work for lunar04:24
bcn_lunar was after jammy right?04:24
ravagei dont think there are any official non-LTS server releases04:25
ravagecould be wrong04:25
bcn_okay.... looking at this.... so preseed is gone, totally dead and gone and not used any more, right?04:26
ravagehttps://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lunar/ubuntu-23.04-live-server-amd64.iso04:26
ravagei was wrong04:26
ravagebut 23.04 is EOL04:26
ravageso dont install it04:26
ravagepreseed is no more04:27
ravageit is a horrible new autoinstall world now04:27
Ximoautoinstall is several times less horrible than preseed was04:29
bcn_dang.  so debian's still using pressed but canonical is not04:29
ravagethe documentation is horrible04:29
bcn_mounting an iso file to do an install sounds like a step backward04:29
ravageyou never know what is a cloud-init feature or specific to autoinstall04:30
ravageit all mixes together is a big mess04:30
ravage24.04 will have a mini iso and also offer a netboot tarball04:31
ravagehttps://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/pending/04:31
Ximoas a design philosophy i feel like all autoinstall (or even preseed) should do is lay down the OS, leave the rest to configuration management04:31
ravagehttps://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/daily-live/current/04:31
ravagei think the noble mini iso also offer the install of jammy04:32
ravagebut have not checked it in a while04:32
ravageit does04:33
ravagehttps://i.imgur.com/4qK9pTq.png04:34
rboxbut the car can't go back too far04:34
rboxbbecause of the cable04:34
rboxoops, wrong channel, haha04:34
ravagewow the noble iso does not offer noble. thats funny04:34
ravagealso it basically just downloads the whole ISO and mounts it. so you only save some time on booting it04:35
sergiuhi04:46
sergiucan i install ubuntu on laptop i5?04:46
rboxwhat is 'laptop i5'04:47
sergiusorrt04:47
sergiusorry04:47
sergiuAsus tuf gaming04:47
rboxof course04:48
rboxwhy woudn't it04:48
oscarmrhi!!04:48
sergiuwhen i try to download ubuntu, it has amd indication on iso imagine04:49
rboxamd indication?04:49
oscarmrand what is the problem?04:50
sergiuamd is compatible with intel?04:50
oscarmrsure04:50
sergiuok thanks a lot04:50
sergiucan i have an question still , i will install ubuntu first time04:51
sergiuwill ubuntu find drivers for my videocard after install?04:51
sergiuor to download them04:51
rboxyes, it will all just work04:51
sergiuit is geforce rtx 3050 =)04:52
sergiuok...04:52
sergiuwill be possible to play games on linux ?:(04:53
sergiui dont care how04:53
sergiuemule etc.04:53
rboxlots of people play games on linux04:53
toddc!nvidia04:53
ubottuDrivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers04:53
sergiui used last time ubuntu 15 years ago04:54
rboxits about the same04:54
sergiui will try to install it , hope it detects my wifi driver04:55
sergiubecouse i gaven my cable for ethernet to friend04:55
sergiuthanks a lot for support04:55
oscarmrrbox, a lot of poople play games on linux? with Steam or I can use Proton without Steam?04:57
rboxi'm sure thats somethign you can google04:57
oscarmrok, thanks04:59
sergiui think that i can ran any games from steam on linux althought05:00
sergiuaim a bit right?05:00
sergiui mean games for windows05:00
sergiuyou can not answer altghout05:02
oscarmrwho?05:03
sergiua lot of years has passed, maybe there is real to install any game05:04
oscarmrin the past, some games have a launched binaries for linux, like a Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 Arena.05:05
oscarmrNow, we have a proton05:05
oscarmrfor runs windows-games in linux05:05
sergiui hear first time for proton05:06
Ximohow many fish will the troll bait05:06
sergiuok iam gonna install today ubuntu05:07
sergiubye \05:07
oscarmrXimo, i the troll?05:11
bcn_casper says can't open sr0 mo medium found05:21
bcn_do I really ahve to mount an dee vee dee iso file to do a netboot ipxe netinstall of jammy?05:22
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bcn_my server has a wlan chip.  do I need to tell curt/subiquity to ignore wlan?07:00
fwehtwhats the general rule of thumb for packages available both as snap and as apt? i currently dont use snap and i like how i only need one command to update everything.  but thats super important, i just wonder whats the best practice07:04
rfmfweht, there are a lot of considerations. one is snaps might be more up to date, for example firefox snaps are built by moz so the delay of having ubuntu devs build debs has goine away...07:09
fwehtrfm: cool i see, then ill use snap!07:09
fwehtwhat about flatpak?  its supported by ubuntu as well, right?07:09
rfmfweht, also some snaps are more available, for example the abraunegg ppa for onedrive doewn't yet support mantic (no reason why they should!) but the snap works just fine07:11
rfmfweht, flatpak does work on ubuntu, but I've never used one.  if an app I wanted to use came on flatpak but not snap or deb, I'd decide then...07:12
fwehtrfm: thanks a lot for the infos!07:12
fwehtill just use snap07:13
fwehtis this a problem of my installation or is copying / pasting from / into emacs not supported on ubuntu?07:13
fweht(i dont like emacs but i wanted to give it a try)07:14
rfmfweht, are you using a snap for emacs? snaps are "confined" so they usually can't get at files outside the home directory.07:14
rfmfweht, I use the repo/deb versions of emacs, they're new enough for me07:15
fwehtrfm: haha no i havent installed snap yet but plan to use it for my next setup07:15
fwehtwhat snaps are confined?  does that mean i cant use e.g. the terminal inside vscode to do sudo stuff?07:16
fwehti really like vscode terminal :D07:16
fwehtplan to use ubuntu 24.04 server with a minimal gui and snap, just for fun and see how far i get07:17
bcn_is there a ubuntu channel that is dedicated to the installer environment?07:17
rfmfweht, don't understand what your problem is with emacs then.  don't use vscode, but if it's a confined snap (there are "classic" unconfined snaps)  then it just can't see things in the host root file system.07:18
tifosihi folks - installing 20.04 LTS on my PC, installation procedure goes smoothly, upon reboot i just see a blinking cursor; i changed tty, edited grub config to disable quiet splash, rebooted, i see all the lines with greek "Ok" - zero sign of errors - but still just green blinking cursor; not sure what to do next?07:18
bcn_I'm trying to automate an ubuntu install with subiquity.  but the install fails and in "autoinstall config did not create needed bootloader partition". I'm modeling after 'Simple server' from https://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/ubuntu-jammy-netinstall-pxe.html07:19
bcn_their example used /dev/vda.  and I'm installing to real hardware /dev/sda so I changed vda to sda07:19
bcn_Homestly I'd prefer to be agnostic to the storage type available.  some systems have nvme for instance07:19
fwehtrfm: thanks, the emacs thing is really not important.  i dont think ill use it much, its too far away from what im used to (vim or vscode)07:20
tifosibusy purging nvidia drivers and trying again07:22
vmelisHi. I used this instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019) 2 years ago to setup my current pc without any problems. Now I have tried the same instructions to setup a new pc but I keep getting an error. "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/nvme0n1. executing grub-install /dev/mnve0n1 failed. The hardware of the 2 pcs07:28
vmelisare identicall. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?07:28
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stennogood day, how can i export an environment variable in ubuntu 22.04, so that it gets set when i log in with ssh?08:27
stennoi wrote it in ~/.profile but it does not get set08:27
eawfawtry ~/.bashrc08:27
ogra_from "man ssh":08:28
ogra_     ~/.ssh/environment08:28
ogra_             Contains additional definitions for environment variables; see ENVIRONMENT, above.08:28
stennowhat is ~/.profile for?08:29
stennoas opposed to ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile08:29
stennowhy do some need EXPORT and some don't? is there any reason to it08:31
stennoor any method, so that i can get familiar with that, because for me that doesn't make sense in the slightest08:31
ogra_the ones prefixed with "bash" are only read by bash ... you might be using one of the gazillion other shells08:32
ogra_(zsh, ksh, fish ... or if you are crazy enough dash)08:32
stennoah, don't need to use EXPORT for ~/.ssh/environment08:32
stenno50/5008:32
stennosometimes you need ot use EXPORT, sometimes not08:33
stennoso i guess when i want to set an environment variable for a user, regardless of if they log in normally or via ssh08:34
stennoi have to read ~/.ssh/environment in ~/.profile08:34
stennoor i will just write it in several places08:35
stennoapparently logging in via ssh is something very exotic08:35
stennoi will just write it to /etc/environment (which doesn't need export)08:37
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stennowriting it in ~/.bashrc apparently helped08:50
stennoit will forever be a mystery for me08:50
stenno(needed export)08:50
tifosiexit09:01
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sybaritensalut12:59
sybaritenjust because a package exists in apt, it doesnt necessarily exist in snap right?13:03
nsmolinskils13:04
ioriasybariten, what's the problem ? the 'snap spoof' ?13:05
sybaritenioria: well i want to install a chat client, and therefore i wanted to check beforehand which versions i would get with apt vs snap. So i could get the latest of the two13:07
ioriai see13:07
sybaritenbut "snap info weechat" gave an error13:07
merzusybariten: there is no snap version for weechat apparently13:08
ioriasybariten, maybw 'wechat' :þ13:08
merzulol13:09
sybaritenmerzu: oh okay13:09
sybaritenioria: hehe completely different platform....  i have that one on my phone13:09
ioriaok13:11
ioriasybariten, what ver you need ?13:11
sybaritenioria: bah, nothign specific i suppose, just wanted as new of a version as possible.13:12
merzusybariten: if you need latest weechat installed from APT, you need to add a repo: https://weechat.org/download/debian/#ubuntu_jammy13:12
ioriasybariten, 23.10 matic is weechat | 4.0.5-113:12
sybaritenI tend to prioritize an easy install procedure over having the most bleeding edge version of a software, so i think i will just go with whatever apt offers to me13:12
sybaritenmerzu: hm, how do these things work actually. I have never really understood the relation between ubuntu versions and sofware packages13:13
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sybaritenif I do lsb_release -r it says          Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS13:15
sybaritenMaybe this means that specific software is tested for this OS version, and no newer software will appear even if something is released?13:15
merzusybariten: it means, that Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is two years old, and mostly all software are so that old also13:16
sybaritenmerzu: ok. i will simply not get a two months old software into this OS install13:16
elfranneIs there a way to specify limit apt options (under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/) for a specific repo ? I have a repo that change name often, so I want to set "Acquire::AllowReleaseInfoChange" but only for that repo13:16
merzusybariten: it is not about that some packages are unstable. I bilieve if you install weechat from differnt repo, you can't break your system. In the end, it is just a console app13:17
ioriasybariten, 24.04 will be here soon, and it will ship 4.1 ... maybe just wait a bit13:19
merzuioria: not really a bit, probably 22.04 will be upgradable to 24.04 in the summer13:20
sybaritenmerzu: euh, i thought the idea was specifically this: that packages could be non-compliant with a specific version of the os?13:20
merzusybariten: no, it will be ok, since this is official weechat repo for 22.04 ubuntu, so they verified that it should be installed correctly13:20
sybaritenALso, is 22.04 upgradable to , say, v23 already now? Is this a painful procedure? I talking about a headless VPS that i'm renting online13:20
ioriasybariten, you need to face and cope with possible issues13:22
merzusybariten: if you need more recent Ubuntu, why have you installed LTS version.13:22
sybaritenmerzu: i dont quite understand that question13:22
oerheks22.04 will be upgradable with the 24..04.1 release13:23
ioriathere was a period, not a q mark13:23
oerheksfor a VPS, stick to LTS13:23
merzuoerheks: you'r right, at the first point release, as usually13:23
ioriafresh install then, better13:23
sybaritenI just go with whatever is conidered sane, stable, easy, good practice13:24
sybaritenbut i donẗ wanna be sitting on a too old version if its advisable not to13:24
merzusybariten: then you should be fine at your current system, just wait when it will propose you to upgrade13:25
ioriasybariten, the point is: some apps have ppa, flatpak, appimage etc. etc ver available ;others don't13:25
oerheksor go wild, and use the -d option13:25
sybaritenmerzu: thumbs_up.gif13:25
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umbrellahi13:53
BluesKajHi all14:13
webchat23Hello, after the upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04.3 to 22.04.4 I get the message 'CPU32 failed to report alive state' on booting. CPU32 is also reported as offline under lscpu. The CPU is an AMD EPYC 9334, 32 cores/64 threads. How can I report this?15:14
BluesKaj!launchpad15:17
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/15:17
BluesKajwebchat23,^15:18
webchat23Thanks!15:21
zphinxim trying to install ubuntu via packer with cloud-config, but getting "proceed with autoinstall?" "add autoinstall to your kernel parameters to get rid of this warning" in the middle of the installation process, i have booted the installation with "autoinstall ds=nocloud;" shouldnt this do it?15:37
ioriawebchat23, what's your kernel ? uname -r15:37
webchat236.5.0-21-generic15:37
ioriawebchat23, can you try 'cpuhp.parallel=off' as kernel parameter ?15:47
webchat23where would I enter this?15:48
ioriawebchat23, in grub : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters15:50
webchat23ok, I'll try that15:56
tsurugihi16:14
webchat13I tried to reboot with 'cpuhp.parallel=off' but the problem remained. I also tried to boot in the older kernel 6.2.0-26-generic. Here the error message is a bit different ('smpboot: do_boot_cpu failed(-1) to walkeup CPU#32') but still CPU32 remains offline16:20
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jonnjaidiHey, I am new to linux. just installed my first ubuntu.18:10
jonnjaidiSo far I am having a great time learning my ways around linux18:11
oerheks!yay18:12
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)18:12
oerhekshi jonnjaidi have fun!18:13
jonnjaidithank you oerheks18:14
MenzadorHave a nice Ubuntu, and please Ubuntu carefulL!18:16
Menzador*carefully!18:16
kicolobowhen will we be able to install kde 6 on ubuntu?18:53
oerhekskicolobo, maybe with kubuntu 24.10 ?18:56
oerheksnot with the LTS version.18:56
seer__Can I get update to stop doing whatever it is doing that slows and kills chrome. When I see it I just go to terminal and update there. (2nd question: can I combine sudo apt update  and sudo apt upgrand and Y into one command?)19:01
plastikmansudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade -y19:02
seer__Just a flashing symbol on the panel to tell me there is an update is all I require.19:02
oerheksCan I get update to stop doing whatever it is doing that slows and kills chrome .. yes, hit stop on the update gui.19:02
seer__OK thanks plasticman I didnt know how to do the y19:02
seer__I dont want the update gui "window" to applear because that window and its associater whatever IS what slows and kills chrome. It sucks the cyclesright outof it. So sad.19:03
seer__hi oerheks19:04
oerhekshow much memory do you have?19:04
seer__RAM 8G19:04
oerheksnot sure why chrome would be affected y downloading19:04
seer__it isnt WHILE downloading. It is when that bugger dialog box appears. Oh is is dl'ing in the background?19:05
oerheksupdates are good, m'kay?19:05
seer__chrome has been dippy since 20.04 but now ubuntu handles it much better so I dont have to push the off button.19:06
seer__(I dont change anything and sometimes hexchat makes me morgan and sometimes seer.19:06
seer__As soon as I see that there is one oerheks I go to update with apt.19:07
seer__anyway I had my say.19:07
seer__thanks19:07
Quaz823Hey guys, I just installed Kubuntu 22.04.4 again like 30 minutes ago, installed an app, made a .desktop file, and ran: update-desktop-database i got the error The databases in ... could not be updated, and I can't find any information on the error online, can someone help?19:09
oerhekswhat app did you install, and how?19:11
oerheksand how does your .desktop file look like, where stored, and how do you run update-desktop-database?19:12
ioriaQuaz823, and that cmd has a '--verbose' option , i suggest to use19:14
Quaz823thank you, I will19:14
oerheksor use sudo?19:14
oerheksanyway, too little info to give answer19:15
ioriausually a MIME type problem19:17
oerhekswho can tell ? if one needs to create a desktop file...19:18
plastikmanI know this is not an idle chat room, but i dont see the point of desktop icons.  I just use universal search to open waht i need.  Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android.  seems the fastest way to me20:20
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plastikmanbut i have no idea how to make a desktop icon on ubuntu, maybe there is a #kde room where you can ask?20:20
Quaz823I honestly don't think there is a point to desktop icons, I have like 60 on my windows pc, but I've never actually clicked them, I always use the search20:22
chico_A few steps to making a desktop icon20:26
chico_Step 1. Make a file called myapp.desktop20:27
chico_Step 2. open myapp.desktop with a text editor20:28
chico_The .desktop file will have aprox 10 lines20:29
chico_Line 1. #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open20:29
chico_Line 2. I leave blank20:29
chico_Line 3. [Desktop Entry]20:29
chico_Line 4. Version=1.020:30
chico_Line 5. Type=Application20:30
chico_Line 6. Terminal=false20:31
chico_Line 7. Exec=myapp20:32
chico_change myapp on Line 7 to the app you want to launch20:32
chico_Line 8. Icon=myicon20:32
chico_change myicon on Line 8 to the path of the icon you want to use for your .desktop file20:33
tomreynchico_: in case you're using a GPT/LLM to provide support: please don't.20:34
tomreynotherwise, this would make a good blog post or pastebin post which you could refer to from here.20:35
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chico_https://pastebin.com/5dABAU4V Create a .desktop file in Ubuntu.21:17
JanCplastikman: search only works when you know what something is called  :)21:39
zphinxgetting python crashes in the middle of an autoinstall when trying to create a partionin scheme, python errors by the looks of things, is this a known error when using lvms via autoinstall?21:39
zphinxits copied from the installation i did by hand prior21:40
oerhekstell us more about what ubuntu version, lvms via autoinstall and the script you used, also the errors?21:42
JanCif it's a "known bug" you should be able to find it on launchpad21:43
zphinxoerheks: https://pastebin.com/UMaLetac , 22.04.4-live21:45
sarnoldzphinx: hello, friendly reminder that that password should now be considered public knowledge21:47
JanCI was just about to say: maybe next time redact the password21:47
zphinxsarnold: yeah its fine, its a fire and forget one21:48
JanCstill a good habit21:49
JanCwhat errors do you get?21:49
zphinxlet me grab the crash file and upload it somewhere21:50
sarnoldzphinx: excellent :)21:51
zphinxalso i would assume a password using with mkpasswd -m sha-512 -s would be fine?21:52
oerhekszphinx, all i can think of, is using daily builds https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/jammy/daily-live/current/21:53
oerhekssofar that script looks sound21:53
sarnoldzphinx: ah yes that sounds very fine indeed21:53
oerheksoh password thing, yes, ugly..21:54
zphinxhm, anyone know where i can upload text bigger then 512kb ?22:00
oerhekshttps://paste.ee/ 1 mb22:05
oerheksor 5 with free account22:06
zphinxhttps://nattfluga.se/documents/1709330032.433724880.unknown.crash https://nattfluga.se/documents/1709330032.433724880.unknown.meta22:06
oerhekszphinx, try the daily builds https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/jammy/daily-live/current/22:11
oerheksnot sure what python3.10 verion it gives22:11
oerheksor subiquity snap22:11
zphinxcould i update the snap in early-commands?22:12
oerhekssnap refresh22:13
oerheksif you want to script this, you need an api key? https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/refresh-control22:17
zphinxsnap refresh did not work22:18
sarnoldoerheks: you're looking at ubuntu core docs -- are those the docs you really intend to be looking at?22:18
oerheksoops sarnold22:19
oerhekssudo snap refresh perhaps?22:20
zphinxsame error with the daily build22:26
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