[00:53] <sem> i'm going to try to finally update my lubuntu 20.04 now that I have a new graphics card. Wish me luck! First I might want to clean out some old ppas from sources.list
[01:19] <ros_robot_builde> Hey, anyone working on any cool projects
[01:20] <oerheks> yes, #libera is full of projects
[01:20] <oerheks> !register
[01:22] <ros_robot_builde> what does "!register" do?
[01:22] <ros_robot_builde> Its been a long time since I used IRC
[01:23] <sem> i am having an interesting problem -- i can't uninstall things in Muon or Discover, but apt still works... seeing what I can find on the internet
[01:47] <sem> i hit 'y' here we go!
[01:47] <sarnold> lets goooo
[01:47] <necrobot> Nice!
[01:48] <sem> sarnold, i had to clear 271 MB to have enough space for the upgrade XD
[01:48] <sem> do you remember that time we removed all of snapd and a bunch of other stuff because my partition at the time was only 10 GB
[01:48] <sarnold> sem: oh nooooo that's cutting it way too close, my guess is something's going to bust..
[01:48] <sarnold> oh yeah that does sound vaguely familiar
[01:49] <sem> This time I have more space: there were some large .isos I could remove
[01:54] <sem> it is already 96% progress!
[01:54] <sem> libc-bin must have a lot of triggers to process
[01:58] <sem> it keeps telling me to close xscreensaver before updating... i hope part of the updater will close it
[01:58] <sarnold> I think you have to do that yourself
[01:59] <sem> ok done
[10:07] <azlan> how are u
[10:07] <azlan> helllooo
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:39] <warsoul> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu: Name or service not known
[13:40] <warsoul> i changed host name
[13:40] <warsoul> now im getting this error message
[13:41] <ravage> also change /etc/hosts
[13:42] <warsoul> -bash: cd: /etc/hosts: Not a directory
[13:43] <jeremy31> warsoul: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[13:43] <warsoul> done
[13:43] <warsoul> thanks
[14:42] <ashafq> Firefox snap on Ubuntu 22.04 does not open Downloads folder when I click "show-all-downloads"
[14:43] <ashafq> Is this a known issue? Am I missing any packages?
[15:03] <Your_Dog> ashafq: lemme try on a fresh ubuntu install, but iirc before i move back to non-snap (keepassxc reasons) i was able to open the download folder
[15:12] <Your_Dog> ashafq: is yours a fresh install? because I just tested mine, it works
[15:20] <chico_> ashafq: Show all downloads opens the firefox download library not the downloads folder. click the folder icon to the right of the download and should open downloads folder.
[15:22] <ChristopheM> Hi, where can I find more chat rooms or Lubuntu related forums ?
[15:22] <Matthias1> I was asking about this in #linux but wondered if someone here would know. I'm trying to install `libffi-dev`, but getting "no installation candidate"
[15:23] <chico_> lubuntu channel
[15:23] <Matthias1> I've tried apt update and apt upgrade, so it seems like there's something wrong with my package cache?
[15:23] <Matthias1> On focal LTS
[15:24] <chico_> Matthias1: I'm assuming that it's no longer available
[15:25] <ravage> it is still available in noble. also in focal
[15:25] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libffi-dev
[15:25] <leftyfb> Matthias1: please copy and paste this into your terminal:   ( uname -a  ; cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy libffi-dev ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:27] <Matthias1> https://termbin.com/ph2g
[15:27] <leftyfb> you don't have a single non-security repo enabled
[15:27] <leftyfb> why did you disable all of your repositories?
[15:28] <leftyfb> oh wait, you have universe
[15:28] <Matthias1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal universe ?
[15:28] <ravage> the package is in main
[15:29] <Matthias1> And I don't have main. That's great
[15:29] <ravage> backup that file and try https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ishad0w/788555191c7037e249a439542c53e170/raw/3822ba49241e6fd851ca1c1cbcc4d7e87382f484/sources.list
[15:29] <ravage> you can remove the last 2 lines
[15:29] <leftyfb> ooo, faster than me
[15:30] <leftyfb> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6sNFzHVFW9/
[15:30] <leftyfb> I usuall suggest that
[15:30] <leftyfb> usually*
[15:30] <ravage> it was just a quick google search 🙂
[15:30] <Matthias1> What if I comment out my current sources and just keep adding to the bottom lol
[15:31] <ravage> you already have old stuff in there that is commented
[15:31] <leftyfb> Matthias1: how about just doing away with your complete mess and just run from a working sources.list?
[15:31] <ravage> and it looks like you already lost control over ut
[15:31] <ravage> maybe use a fresh one
[15:31] <Matthias1> Yeah
[15:32] <Your_Dog> I agree, just start with a fresh one first and if you feel like it, start tweaking again from there
[15:32] <Matthias1> Apparently I botched it when upgrading from bionic
[15:32] <leftyfb> Matthias1: curl -s https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ishad0w/788555191c7037e249a439542c53e170/raw/3822ba49241e6fd851ca1c1cbcc4d7e87382f484/sources.list | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:33] <leftyfb> maybe replace that last ; with a &&
[15:45] <Matthias1> Got it working without any more issues. Thank you all
[15:54] <Menzador> You're welcome, but in all reality you shouldn't yeet an arbitrary GitHub link into your sources list
[15:56] <ravage> it is not arbitrary
[16:00] <Menzador> I mean, *I* know where the content is coming from, but something that important should always come from the Ubuntu Web site. ESPECIALLY since Focal (20.04 LTS) is still a supported release for the main flavor
[16:01] <ravage> the url was sent to him before to check. the content is not that complex. it clearly shows only official servers
[16:03] <Menzador> You can also find a copy in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[16:03] <Menzador> Even on a Live image
[16:03] <ravage> no idea when that gets updated
[16:03] <Menzador> You copy it to /etc/apt/sources.list and then change the distribution whichever is correct
[16:03] <ravage> on my noble device it still shows lunar
[16:03] <Menzador> *to whichever is correct
[16:04] <ravage> and changing sources the right way was exactly why he was here
[16:04] <ravage> and struggled with it
[16:05] <Menzador> But you DON'T have to find that from an unofficial source. It's best practice to use the official source to begin with.
[16:05] <ravage> giving support here without code to paste from a paste bin is almost impossible
[16:05] <ravage> but please try it
[16:07] <ravage> also in this case any packages not signed correctly would be denied by ap
[16:07] <ravage> apt. so i dont see the big security risk
[16:08] <Menzador> Would they? What if a GPG key outside the official repos was trusted and signed by the user without examination
[16:08] <ravage> it was not
[16:09] <Menzador> And that was lucky
[16:09] <ravage> not by any of the volonteers
[16:13] <Menzador> I am done discussing this issue. My point is, if something that can be found within your installation (I do this all the time with, e.g., /etc/skel/.bashrc for resetting my .bashrc file) it's ALWAYS preferable over some arbitrary text file. Good day to you.
[16:53] <chico_> Updating to 23.10, On boot blue screen ERROR Verification failed: (0x1A) Security violation
[16:54] <chico_> Continue Boot has lock on screen Security Boot Fail
[16:56] <chico_> which to allow as trusted? bootx64.efi, mmx64.efi or grubx64.efi to reinstall from usb
[16:58] <jeremy31> chico_: Disable Secure Boot in BIOS
[16:59] <jeremy31> Then install all updates and see if it will boot with Secure Boot then
[17:02] <chico_> jeremy31: UEFI Firmware Settings says Secure Boot Mode: Custom.....Erase Secure Boot Setting:....Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing:.....Restore Secure Boot:...Factory Default
[17:03] <chico_> also grub commandline says need to load kernel first
[17:05] <jeremy31> For Secure Boot I thought there was a shimx64.efi
[17:09] <chico_> jeremy31: Under Ubuntu option ther is (grubx64.efi, shimx64.efi and mmx64.efi) under boot there is ()Bootx64.efi, fbx64.efi and mmx64.efi). Choosing shimx64.efi under ubuntu it says The boot description exists
[17:10] <jeremy31> under boot would be for the USB I think, try mmx64.efi
[17:12] <chico_> It still does the same. Takes me to MOK Management
[17:14] <chico_> Then pops up the security boot fail screen
[17:16] <chico_> When choosing memory test it says error: file '/BOOT/ubuntu_mcptlo@/memtest86+x64.efi' not found.
[17:16] <jeremy31> chico_: Does this have Windows installed?
[17:17] <jeremy31> The memtest only works on Legacy/BIOS boot
[17:17] <chico_> No. was Ubuntu 22.04 upgrading to Ubuntu 23.10
[17:18] <chico_> when choosing to boot Ubuntu 23.10 it says /BOOT/vmlinuz-6.5.0-21-generic not found
[17:19] <chico_> you need to load the kernel first
[17:21] <jeremy31> Any other kernel installed?
[17:22] <jeremy31> Try using Grub Menu advanced options for ubuntu
[17:24] <chico_> jeremy31: Many thanks!! Was able to get secure boot disabled and now reinstalling ubuntu 21.10 from usb.
[17:24] <jeremy31> chico_: can you boot the install and update it?
[17:25] <jeremy31> Or just use the ISO on USB, chroot into the install and install updates
[17:25] <geirha> hopefully you mean 23.10 and not 21.10
[17:26] <chico_> 21.10 was the original, I upgraded to 22.04 fine. When attempting to upgrade to 23.10 had issue with secure boot
[17:28] <chico_> Uefi dbx firmware update issue?
[17:29] <jeremy31> chico_: That is my bet
[17:31] <chico_> jeremy31: going to do a quick reinstall...updates and not update the uefi dbx and verify
[17:35] <jeremy31> chico_: The UEFI update must already be in the computer or there wouldn't have been a boot issue with the ISO
[17:36] <chico_> yes, I updated the vs 83 to 371
[19:18] <chico_> jeremy31: 23.10 running smoothly..:)
[19:18] <jeremy31> chico_: good
[22:09] <WeeBey> Hi frens. I have 23.10 with 6.5.0-21-generic. I'm noticing that shortly after a kernel upgrade, I get a couple of hard crashes-totally unresponsive requiring hard reboot. I haven't noticed a pattern yet except It just happened while I was running VirtualBox. Keyboard stopped working and two apps stopped responding. Then everything stopped.
[22:10] <WeeBey> I'm wondering if anyone has heard of anything 23.10 crashing issues. I know it's vague right now. Any tips on finding info about the last crash would be helpful.
[23:20] <Guest46> what am i doing wrong here `mlevental    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/modprobe, /usr/bin/rmmod, /usr/sbin/insmod` ? i've tried a bunch of different forms of this and no matter what i still cannot get user `mlevental` to be able to run `modprobe -r` without sudo?
[23:20] <Guest46> sorry should've been more clear - i put that line in `etc/sudoers`, logged out, logged in, etc
[23:22] <Guest46> is it because modprobe is a symlink...
[23:25] <rbox> what do you mean without sudo
[23:25] <Guest13> User mlevental may run the following commands on mlevental-F7BSC:
[23:25] <Guest13>     (ALL : ALL) ALL
[23:25] <Guest13>     (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/modprobe, /usr/bin/rmmod, /usr/sbin/insmod
[23:25] <Guest13>     (ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/modprobe, /usr/sbin/rmmod, /usr/sbin/insmod, /bin/kmod
[23:25] <rbox> the sudoers controls what users can do with sudo
[23:25] <rbox> it doesnt magically let you do thing as root
[23:25] <Guest13> err
[23:25] <Guest13> i'm le dumb
[23:25] <Guest13> ok
[23:25] <Guest13> i misread the docs/man
[23:26] <Guest13> sorry - what is the point of NOPASSWD then?
[23:26] <rbox> to allow you to use sudo without typing in a password
[23:28] <Guest13> OMG
[23:28] <Guest13> bro
[23:28] <Guest13> thank you
[23:28] <oerheks> the point of (ALL) NOPASSWD ???
[23:29] <oerheks> i do not give support for such nonsense
[23:29] <Guest13> is this correct or am i opening myself up to l33t hackers somehow: `mlevental    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/modprobe, /usr/sbin/rmmod, /usr/sbin/insmod, /bin/kmod`
[23:29] <Guest13> (let's ignore whether l33t hackers can pwn me as me through kmod) - i'm just asking if `ALL=(ALL) is somehow more permissive than i want it to be?
[23:30] <rbox> Guest13: try to run modprobe, does it work? try to run soemthgin else, does it not work?
[23:30] <oerheks> this is ubuntu support, not pentesting or hackers support.
[23:30] <Guest13> i'm asking about sudoers
[23:30] <Guest13> syntax
[23:30] <rbox> what do you mean "more permissive"
[23:30] <Guest13> that i'm unfamiliar with
[23:30] <Guest13> nm
[23:30] <Guest13> thanks rbox
[23:47] <oerheks> https://www.bing.com/search?q=detect+Bifrost+Malware