[01:12] <studio-user-6> hello, can you help me with ubuntu studio pls? I need to control vcv rack 2 from a mac pro, via midi, through an ethernet cable. I spent some hours trying rtpmidid but no results :( thank you
[01:13] <Eickmeyer> studio-user-6: vcv rack isn't an application that is in the Ubuntu repositories and therefore we do not support. Sorry.
[01:18] <studio-user-6> I am sure that the problem is not in rack itself but in the way rtpmidid and the network are configured, because all works fine, but when I disconnect the computer from internet, even the daemon stop to work ...
[01:19] <OvenWerks> studio-user-6: rtpmidi, while not impossible on Linux, is not mainstream. https://github.com/davidmoreno/rtpmididis one example though.
[01:23] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: Actually there seems to be a lot more support in linux than there was a few years ago. Last time I looked there was only one pretty much dead (using obsolete libs) version but there seems to be two or three now.
[01:23] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: The line is drawn on support on whether or not it's in the repos.
[01:24] <OvenWerks> I understand that.
[01:26] <OvenWerks> rtpmidi is supposed to be more stable than ipmidi (which we do support) but only if it is fully supported with journeling.
[01:26] <Eickmeyer> Also, the author of VCV Rack has been extremely anti-cooperative, so it was forked by falktx as cardinal, so if anything, I'd encourage using that.
[01:27]  * Eickmeyer nods
[01:27] <OvenWerks> What the original poster was asking was not about the synth but the network midi transport
[01:28] <OvenWerks> but they're gone now so ...
[01:28] <Eickmeyer> I guess I shouldn't have even chimed-in. Their message wasn't even clear.
[01:29] <OvenWerks> they are from itally it seems
[01:29] <Eickmeyer> Either way, vcv rack 2 running on Ubuntu Studio isn't even something we can guarantee is controllable using rtpmidid, so that's the takeaway.
[01:30] <OvenWerks> I wasn't sure where vcv was running from the OP  ;)
[01:30] <Eickmeyer> The entire pipeline isn't supportable.
[01:30] <Eickmeyer> They wanted to control vcv rack 2 oon Ubuntu Studio from a mac pro.
[01:30] <OvenWerks>  :P
[01:31] <OvenWerks> so maybe vcv calls the rptmidi lib.
[01:31] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, I don't know.
[01:31] <OvenWerks> anyway, on my way out the door
[01:32] <Eickmeyer> Have a good evening! o/
[01:32] <OvenWerks> oh , and just to be clear. I wasn't complaining about what you said, it was fine too.
[01:35] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, you're good. :)
[10:24] <spurgu> The 24.04 installer is stuck on "Preparing Kubuntu" and I haven't been able to get around it. Is there another way to install 24.04? Would do-release-upgrade from 23.10 get me there?
[12:18] <guiverc> spurgu, you'll need a `-d` option for `do-release-upgrade` from 23.10 (ie. `-d` will allow you to upgrade to the development release)
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> spurgu: Additionally, 24.04 isn't supported, the installer is undergoing a huge amount of development. Do not upgrade at this time, please. Track development in https://ubuntustudio.org/news
[22:45] <spurgu> Thanks guiverc and Eickmeyer, I did upgrade earlier but not on a production system, I was just curious.
[22:53] <guiverc> spurgu, just fyi, but the `do-release-upgrade` or any ubuntu release-upgrader tool looks at https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release for what is available, the -d causes https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development to be used instead
[22:58] <spurgu> guiverc Yeah I know, I've used it with Ubuntu before, just wasn't sure whether it would work the same in Ubuntu Studio (or if it'd do something like upgrade to regular Ubuntu).
[22:59] <guiverc> the release-upgrader-tools are maintained by Ubuntu, and the same for all flavors..  
[23:00] <guiverc> (when Lubuntu switched from LXDE to LXQt, their docs warned users to clean-install due to change; just as Ubuntu Studio did when they switched from Xfce to KDE Plasma.. the base tool will upgrade even though flavor/desktop doesn't support upgrade)