[02:03] <cobraeriko> I can connect to IPv4 and IPv6 websites when connected with LAN, but I can only connect to IPv6 websites when connected only with WiFi.  I can't figure out why I can't load IPv4 websites on my Ubuntu laptop when connected to only WiFi. How should I fix this?
[02:03] <cobraeriko> - I already made sure both IPv4 and IPv6 are set to automatic (DHCP)
[02:03] <cobraeriko> - My router settings are fine
[02:03] <cobraeriko> - Here is what happens when I try to ping and traceroute with LAN vs WiFi: https://hastebin.com/share/ejipuhemew.ruby
[02:05] <rbox> cobraeriko: what does ip route and ip -6 route look like
[02:26] <nicksy> hello ttl 2
[02:27]  * nicksy says echo off off off off
[02:27]  * nicksy echoes off off off off off off
[02:27] <nicksy> off
[02:28] <nicksy> sound of listening *breathing*
[02:29] <nicksy> escape symbol is pi emoji no,,, not emoji it is ascii only now...here
[02:30] <nicksy> wheere cann the metadata go
[02:30] <nicksy> when chatgpt takes a brain host
[02:30] <nicksy> ?
[02:33] <nicksy> escape symbol marker for quantum data to treat as if data of the nature of atomic waste raw sewage nuclear ewaste waste nuclear waste like data which a computational or deterministic system or a system that processes data as code should be aware in future for context
[02:33] <nicksy> message from a collective
[02:34] <nicksy> sound of listening in
[02:41] <nicksy> !bots
[07:14] <k4k0> https://dpaste.com/4JCCNZ4Q9 - Would it be interesting to update or not?
[07:25] <k4k0> Would it be interesting to update or not? hum
[07:25] <k4k0> oO
[07:34] <Your_Dog> k4k0: yes, since 23.04 is non LTS
[07:35] <Your_Dog> Also 23.04 was EOL'd since last January
[07:35] <k4k0> Should I update or is it better to wait for the LTS version? I heard that there is time to update, otherwise I won't be able to do it anymore
[07:35] <k4k0> hm
[07:36] <Your_Dog> Hmmmh right
[07:36] <k4k0> New release '23.10' available.
[07:37] <Your_Dog> 24.04 is gonna be release a month after now but as for your question if you should pick 23.10 or the upcoming LTS it depends on you.
[07:37] <k4k0> I should update but would I be able to update after 23.04 to the LTS version?
[07:38] <Your_Dog> LTS means longer security updates but not much application updates, you have a much longer window for upgrading versions but you wont always get the latest software version. If you're happy with that, LTS is a good choice
[07:38] <k4k0> 23.04 for version 24.04 it is possible even without updating to version 23.10
[07:39] <k4k0> ?
[07:40] <Your_Dog> You can't skip versions im afraid
[07:40] <Your_Dog> so 23.04 to 23.10 to 24.04
[07:41] <k4k0> hm
[07:42] <k4k0> So I'll try to update
[07:42]  * k4k0 shrug
[07:47] <PeGaSuS> you can jump to the next LTS
[07:48] <k4k0> too late, I've already started updating
[07:48] <k4k0> ;x
[07:48] <PeGaSuS> you don't necessarily need to go through the "interim" releases
[07:48] <k4k0> 23.10 is minotaur oO
[07:49] <PeGaSuS> it's an "interim" release, that'd be supported for 9 months
[07:50] <k4k0> hm
[07:50] <PeGaSuS> there are two types of releases inside Ubuntu: the well known LTS and the Interim: https://releases.ubuntu.com/
[07:52] <PeGaSuS> which means that you can safely jump from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 without any issues and that's the default on Ubuntu
[07:53] <k4k0> humm
[08:57] <Your_Dog> PeGaSuS: really? i didnt know u can just upgrade from a prior interim version to LTS. Last time I remember you cant jump from 21.04 to 22.04
[09:11] <asan> HI I am trying to update from ubuntu 18 to 20. do-release-upgrade says install all available updates. Whereas apt upgrade says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:15] <PeGaSuS> Your_Dog: 21.04 was an interim
[09:15] <Your_Dog> yes
[09:16] <Your_Dog> k4k0 was asking 23.04 to 24.04
[09:16] <PeGaSuS> there, yes, I'm afraid you can't jump directly to an LTS
[09:16] <Your_Dog> ah
[09:16] <Your_Dog> darn it, you got me excited there
[09:17] <asan> Please help. How do I jump from 18 to the next LTS>
[09:17] <PeGaSuS> !eol
[09:18] <PeGaSuS> asan: Ubuntu 18.04 is EOL since last year. follow the last link of the ubottu message
[09:19] <PeGaSuS> so you can upgrade successfully to 22.04
[09:19] <PeGaSuS> 20.04 will be EOL next year, so I strongly advise to update/upgrade to 22.04
[09:22] <asan> thanks PeGaSuS
[09:32] <asan> PeGaSuS those instructions did not work for me. even the support tool for upgrade did not work
[09:35] <PeGaSuS> you mean that `sudo apt update` says that there aren't any updates?
[09:36] <PeGaSuS> also, if ALL the updates are installed you need to reboot before trying `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[09:36] <PeGaSuS> otherwise Ubuntu won't update
[09:37] <morgan-hp> looking at lshw and I want to know if my laptop will do a 1080 external screen. I have a HP ProBook 455 G3 (X9T93UT#ABA)  - VGA port.
[09:40] <asan> PeGaSuS https://dpaste.com/5KKA927AA
[09:41] <zniavre> sudo inxi -Gxxxx will give you all you want to know about graphics
[09:44] <PeGaSuS> asan: what's the output of `sudo apt list --upgradable` ?
[09:45] <asan90> PeGaSuS code/stable 1.87.0-1709078641 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.76.2-1678817801]
[09:45] <asan90> N: There are 103 additional versions. Please use the '-a' switch to see them.
[09:45] <asan90> should I remove it ???
[09:46] <asan90> I have removed it
[09:46] <PeGaSuS> asan90: try `sudo apt install code`
[09:46] <PeGaSuS> you could just force the upgrade of the package
[09:47] <asan90> I removed it. Will install later. rebooting now.
[09:47] <PeGaSuS> now, usually you need to reboot the machine so then you can `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[09:48] <asan90> PeGaSuS it worked. thanks
[09:49] <PeGaSuS> asan90: you're welcome!
[09:49] <asan90> tyvm
[09:50] <PeGaSuS> always check for packages that aren't updated with `sudo apt list --upgradable`. if any, you can force the upgrade with `sudo apt install <package name>`.
[09:50] <PeGaSuS> then, you *alwways* need to reboot your machine before upgrading the OS
[10:54] <antval> hello
[10:54] <antval> how do i download apps like example roblox or steam
[11:09] <whiskey76> sudo apt install steam ...that's one way.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:37] <test_> EXIT
[14:54] <fweht> any idea how i can make my path variable accessible by vscode resp. its extensions?
[17:01] <nazrin> hi
[17:18] <jafa> noble-server will no longer install (fails installing grub) and existing installs fail to apt update attempting to configure grub-efi-amd64-signed... what is the best way to discuss?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !next | jafa
[17:20] <jafa> thanks
[18:34] <Some_Person> I think I made a big mistake. I had an autosaved scan in simple-scan that was a bit over half of a very long book. Now it seems to be gone. Is there any way to retrieve it? IDK where it stores autosaves
[18:35] <Some_Person> If I lose it, that is countless hours of work over the course of months gone
[18:35] <d050> probably gone forever im ngl
[18:35] <Some_Person> D:
[18:36] <Some_Person> god damnit
[18:36] <leftyfb> you took on a multi-month project and relied on an autosave feature without backups?
[18:36] <Some_Person> Maybe I was lucky but I managed to successfully scan several volumes of a series this way
[18:36] <d050> ye, did you not save manually at all?
[18:37] <Some_Person> I didn't :(
[18:37] <d050> also uh, how can i change and customize my colors and stuff?
[18:37] <d050> i just got done installing linux on my old laptop so im kinda new
[18:37] <d050> @Some_Person use this as a learning moment lol
[18:38] <d050> save your work always
[18:38] <leftyfb> d050: what release and flavor are you running?
[18:38] <Some_Person> It's a 502 page book and I had scanned up to page 251. And it's due back on the 19th :(
[18:38] <d050> lubuntu, latest
[18:38] <Some_Person> and I'm using a flatbed and having to put a heavy object on top of the book to get it to scan cleanly
[18:38] <d050> laptop is a pos. 2 gb of ram and a cpu from 2008
[18:38] <Some_Person> so it's a big pain in the butt
[18:39] <Some_Person> I need to find a better tool to do this, because it's obvious now that simple-scan is insufficient
[18:39] <leftyfb> Some_Person: now you have incentive to do it right this time :)
[18:39] <leftyfb> uh
[18:39] <leftyfb> Some_Person: simple scan is just fine. You need to save the files you want to keep
[18:40] <d050> Some_Person yknow just save your work next time :')
[18:40] <leftyfb> leaving them in some cache is never the answer
[18:40] <Some_Person> leftyfb: For such a long book, I need it to keep the file names in order. It can't restart numbering every time I go back to scan
[18:40] <Some_Person> simple-scan is incapable of this
[18:41] <leftyfb> why not buy the digital version of the book? I can't imagine is costs more than months of your time
[18:42] <d050> Some_Person try zlib?
[18:42] <Some_Person> leftyfb: lol, because no such thing exists!
[18:42] <Some_Person> it's an out of print series from the 1990s
[18:43] <leftyfb> d050: zlib(c) is a compression library. Nothing to do with scanning documents
[18:44] <d050> leftyfb Im aware, but I meant finding the book on there instead of scanning it yourself
[18:49] <Some_Person> I need a tool that can scan files into a collection of sorts. I need to be able to view each scan after making it. I need to be able to discard bad scans. And importantly, I need to be able to append to this collection. And this needs to be saved in a better way than this stupid autosave crap
[18:49] <Some_Person> Any suggestions?
[18:51] <Some_Person> I also don't want the tool to process the scan in any way. I just want the data from the scanner dumped to a PNG file or similar
[18:51] <leftyfb> "Save Document to File". Button at the top with a little down arrow
[18:52] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Yes. And then when I open it again, it creates a brand new collection with no continuity with anything scanned before
[18:52] <Some_Person> you see the problem?
[18:53] <leftyfb> Some_Person: you're doing the scanning. Just name things sequentially
[18:53] <d050> Some_Person use adobe scan, it has a preset specifically for books
[18:53] <tomreyn> d050: there's #lubuntu for lubuntu (desktop) specific questions
[18:54] <Some_Person> d050: Um... does that even exist for Linux?
[18:54] <JanC> I'm sure if there is an autosave then it's saved somewhere?
[18:55] <leftyfb> Adobe scan is a mobile app
[18:55] <Some_Person> JanC: It does. But it only seems to use this feature if the application is closed ungracefully, which admittedly is a dumb thing to rely on
[18:55] <Some_Person> lol at scanning a book with a mobile app, that would produce awful results
[18:55] <d050> tomreyn alright, thanks
[18:56] <Some_Person> I mean it's probably fine for something where quality doesn't matter and you just need the information, but that's not what I'm aiming for here. I'm taking 600 dpi scans with a flatbed because it's the best way I have to do it
[18:57] <d050> you might like the results
[18:57] <d050> just try it
[18:57] <d050> its free anyways
[19:00] <Some_Person> Just did. It looks exactly like I expected. Geometry issues because there's no way to get a book to lay flat on top of a surface. And the text is far less clear because obviously the smartphone camera is nowhere near the quality of a 600 dpi scan
[19:00] <Some_Person> I mean, it's readable, but pretty crap for archival work
[19:00] <d050> welp...
[19:00] <d050> time to find an app that has the feature set you want on linux
[19:00] <d050> :D
[19:03] <JanC> maybe script your own "tool" that scans, shows the scan, allows you to accept or deny the scan, repeat that until the scan is right, then loops to scan the next page   :)
[19:05] <plastikman> Why not just cut the binding off then feed the pages through?  that will accomplish the task of digitizing the pages and avoid weird angle problems
[19:06] <JanC> with a library book...?
[19:06]  * JanC thinks they won't be happy
[19:06] <plastikman> Also, not sure this is a ubuntu problem :)
[19:07] <plastikman> feels like piracy with extra steps
[19:07] <Some_Person> I can't take the binding off a library book
[19:08] <tykling> you can but they frown upon it
[19:09] <plastikman> Not with that attitude.  Anyway, again, not sure this is a ubuntu specific problem.  as the issue you are having will exist across all platforms
[19:10] <Some_Person> I mean, it's just a question of needing a scanner program that keeps track of things scanned in a persistent way. simple-scan doesn't do this apart from its autosave feature, which as I learned today is extremely brittle
[19:10] <plastikman> the guy that runs the techtangents YT channel has a scanner that can do edgeless book scans, maybe check his video out and try to find his exact scanner model.  he is a Linux user so obviously has it all woeking
[19:11] <Some_Person> I mean... it doesn't really matter what scanner I use if the software doesn't do what I need
[19:11] <leftyfb> "simple" scan
[19:11] <JanC> it seems like Simple Scan allows you to run a script to "postprocess" the scans; such scripts should be able to able to save the files in a known location also?
[19:11] <Some_Person> I doubt that would discard the file if I delete it within simple-scan though
[19:12] <JanC> you can discard them manually afterwards, but at least you would have a copy of all scans  :)
[19:13] <Some_Person> and I discard frequently enough that this would be a major PITA
[19:13] <Some_Person> I'm scanning a 10 volume series here, and I'm on volume 5. Even small time savings during the scan process add up quickly here
[19:13] <JanC> you use the "Multiple Pages From Flatbed" option?
[19:14] <Some_Person> No, because that unfortunately just causes it to scan over and over continuously
[19:15] <JanC> I don't have a scanner, so I can't really test anything
[19:15] <Some_Person> while I need time to open scanner, remove heavy object, pick up book, turn page, replace book, replace heavy object, and close scanner
[19:17] <JanC> oh, it doesn't wait for a keypress or anything?
[19:17] <Some_Person> It's stupid enough not to do that
[19:18] <Some_Person> I think the option is intended for scanners with a document feeder
[19:18] <JanC> did you also try the other scanner software in Ubuntu?
[19:18] <Some_Person> which one? I'm asking for suggestions here
[19:23] <plastikman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mOLXOGxWMs&t=276s
[19:23] <plastikman> looks like this dood uses xsane which is NOT ideal.
[19:24] <JanC> you will have to test them yourself, as i said I don't have a scanner...  :)
[19:26] <JanC> if you know scripting you could play with scanimage/xscanimage maybe
[19:28] <JanC> maybe gscanpdf is an option also
[19:28] <JanC> gscan2pdf
[20:52] <CosmicDJ> fg
[20:52] <CosmicDJ> ww
[22:21] <meltedy2k> Hi! I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an MSI bravo 17CV7, but it seems the laptop doesn't detect the live usb stick, I'm guessing I have to disable secure boot but  can't seem to find the way to access the BIOS settings on this machine, could anyone help?
[22:21] <oerheks> read the manual?
[22:22] <jeremy31> meltedy2k: What did you use to put Ubuntu on USB?
[22:22] <oerheks> MSI publishes them online
[22:22] <bprompt> meltedy2k: how do you get the CMOS or UEFI screen?   f10? f2?
[22:22] <meltedy2k> jeremy31 I used balena etcher
[22:22] <meltedy2k> bprompt not sure
[22:23] <bprompt> meltedy2k: that said, chances are your system uses UEFI, so if  you put the LiveUSB stick before booting and go into the UEFI/CMOS screen, in the boot sequence, the LiveUSB will be listed and you pick it from there
[22:23] <jeremy31> bprompt: Is Windows on this computer?
[22:23] <meltedy2k> no it's not
[22:23] <meltedy2k> came without an OS
[22:23] <meltedy2k> only get an EFI shell
[22:29] <fweht> how do i set the path variable for vscode?  i already put `export PATH="~/.cabal/bin:$PATH"` into my .bashrc but in vscode, the path it sees is still `/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin`
[22:30] <oerheks> if vscode is a snap, it ignores $Path?
[22:30] <oerheks> look into permissions in system settings
[22:31] <fweht> oerheks: its not snap, but would be interested in a solution for snap as well
[22:32] <oerheks> i thought it was snap only ..
[22:33] <oerheks> edit  ~/. bashrc file; export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/vscode directory
[22:33] <fweht> yes i already edited .bashrc
[22:33] <oerheks> export PATH="~/.cabal/bin:$PATH seems wrong to me?
[22:34] <fweht> ah wait
[22:34] <fweht> i dont need the path to vscode
[22:34] <fweht> i need .cabal/bin to be visible for vscode extensions
[22:34] <meltedy2k> ah, found bios setup key, it's del
[22:35] <fweht> the very dirty solution would be to symlink /usr/local/sbin to ~/.cabal/bin
[22:35] <meltedy2k> disable ecure boot, put usb devices first on boot order... and it still doesn't work
[22:36] <meltedy2k> maybe i have to disbale fast boot too
[22:36] <oerheks> meltedy2k, no clue there, check for a bios update, or check UEFI in the bios, maybe you need grant it access
[22:36] <oerheks> yes, fastboot is always the culprit
[22:36] <meltedy2k> oh yeah, gotta sign the key
[22:37] <BarnabasDK> booting used to be a simple thing ..
[22:41] <bprompt> meltedy2k: checked the boot sequence in UEFI/CMOS screen?
[22:41] <meltedy2k> I have
[22:41] <meltedy2k> it's uisb hard drive/usb cd/hard drive
[22:41] <meltedy2k> won't work
[22:41] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:42] <bprompt> meltedy2k: a liveUSB from a usb-HDD?
[22:42] <meltedy2k> on my old laptop I needed to manually approve the key for the ubuntu live usb to boot, maybe it's the same here but I can't fint where to to do that in this bios
[22:42] <meltedy2k> it'0s just a usb stick
[22:43] <meltedy2k> big one though maybe that's a problem?
[22:44] <meltedy2k> it's not detecting it in the boot sequence list of disks
[22:46] <bprompt> meltedy2k: well, my understanding that's not a usb-stick boot, is a usb-HDD boot, hmm how do you know is even bootable, or it has only one partition, is it GPT?
[22:47] <bprompt> meltedy2k: UEFI only boots from a GPT formatted hdd
[22:48] <meltedy2k> I see, so how do i create a live usb with the corfrect format?
[22:48] <meltedy2k> thought etcher was the go-to tool for this now
[22:50] <jeremy31> meltedy2k: I would try with Ventoy
[22:51] <oerheks> dd the iso
[22:58] <bprompt> yeap, "dd"ing the iso works, results of lots of unused space, but works
[23:28] <RickyRat5005> Hi all. Is there any more information I can provide on this bug?
[23:28] <RickyRat5005>  Bug #2054121 reported by Allen on 2024-02-16
[23:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2054121 in ubuntu "Random Freezing" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2054121
[23:28] <RickyRat5005> It seems that logs aren't catching the reason for the freeze so I get it's tougher to solve.
[23:29] <RickyRat5005> I plan to get a new PC (with an AMD video card) soon. But until then it would be nice not to crash so much... :-)