[01:48] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: Just did some more debugging and discovered that .cache being owned by root is *not* Calamares' fault. Something else in Kubuntu is creating or chowning it, because when I start up the ISO, I can open a terminal while on the installer prompt screen without ever clicking "Install Kubuntu", then do `stat .cache` and it shows as being owned by root.
[01:49] <arraybolt3> Any recent upload in KDE that might be doing this? There's a file in there, icon-cache.kcache which is also owned by root.
[01:49] <arraybolt3> and clicking "Try Kubuntu" instantly results in a crashy Plasma despite having never launched Calamares.
[03:10] <arraybolt3> Scratch that, upon further testing it's the installer prompt's fault.
 arraybolt3: it is. I tried earlier today booting the ISO with the installer prompt removed at the rescue target
 .cache was then owned by kubuntu
[08:11] <arraybolt3> RikMills: Yep, did a similar trick here (modded the ISO with Cubic and made the prompt no longer run as root). Problem solved. Already uploaded a fix (with the .git directory no longer getting lumped in, yay!).
[08:13] <arraybolt3> Thanks for your patience while we're getting all the bumps smoothed out :)
 kool
 booting to rescue.target by editing the grub boot line seems easier, but whatever :)
[08:16] <arraybolt3> pretty sure your way is easier but it also requires one to know and remember that it's possible :P
 true. if we have anything like wiki instructions on iso testing, it could be handy to document
[08:18] <arraybolt3> definitely
 but basically you add systemd.uniit=rescue.target after or before quiet splash
[08:19] <arraybolt3> nice, I can probably remember to do that.
 do your modifications in rescue mode
 then CTRL D to carry on booting
 a former release team member told me that IIRC
[08:21] <arraybolt3> awesome
 if you need network access in rescue node
 systemctrl start network-online.target
 yeah, I think this needs documenting. I have used this many times now for various problems
[08:25] <arraybolt3> just saved a snapshot of IRC logs so I can remember this later
[08:25] <arraybolt3> s/saved/threw into an unsaved text document that may vanish if the power goes out, so maybe I should save it/
 with the network online, you can even add a ppa and upgrade packages before you finish booting :)
[08:27] <arraybolt3> neat
[08:27] <arraybolt3> ok, it's almost 2:30 AM here, I should go to bed :P
[08:27] <arraybolt3> thanks for sharing all these neat tricks with me :D
 np, and sleep well
[08:28] <arraybolt3> thanks
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 hiyas
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hey sgmoore
[13:28] <santa_> hi everyone
 hey santa_ How was the move? Hope it went well
[13:29] <santa_> I will be getting slowly back into kubuntu in the next days I hope
[13:29] <BluesKaj> hi santa_
[13:29] <santa_> sgmoore: still not finished, but I have the table structure and a couple of servers
[13:29] <santa_> the big one is still in the box
[13:30] <sgmoore> very nice, moving is no fun, I hope to never have to do it again.
[13:30] <santa_> also I'm looking for a new job, I have been doing some interviews
[13:31] <santa_> sgmoore: yeah, this one was also specially complicated for a number of things
 I did that for the last year. Also no fun
[13:31] <santa_> yeah, very time consuming like my move I guess