| Bashing-om | pepeamid: You bring good tiding of great joy to the channel ? | 00:30 |
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| guiverc | Bashing-om, maybe we should use tags, 'news' for newsletter, 'docs' for our other stuff (glossary etc).. rocks & other areas of discourse use those tags, but the area (of discourse) will allow fine-tuning of searches | 00:40 |
| * guiverc is only around briefly; off to vet with pup somewhat soon (yearly injections etc) | 00:41 | |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Sorry I am lost for context as to where "maybe we should use tags" applies :( | 00:42 |
| guiverc | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/uwn/124 & other searches allow limiting results to specific items.. ie. uwn issues & glossary, link.suggestions appear in that list; if we had 'docs' as tag we could restrict only the 'links, glossary, about etc' to show | 00:45 |
| guiverc | eg. i just changed two articles to use 'docs'... they can be easily found now | 00:46 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Anything that enhances search is a good thing - I must get onto the learning cycle to make application. | 00:49 |
| guiverc | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/tags/c/uwn/124/docs now shows only 'docs'... | 00:49 |
| guiverc | (unless I missed any anyway.. will have to add 'news' later to others) | 00:50 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Neat - we like clean too :P | 00:51 |
| guiverc | (we could even re-massage the ML stuff I post to fridge on release/eol/eoss & paste the discourse with release tag maybe..; aren't that many of those; 24.04 will be next) | 01:00 |
| guiverc | https://dpaste.com/2RUKART67 shows what I created from the ML post where 99% of text (all but last line) comes from | 01:02 |
| * guiverc assumes that's the final; my local copy anyway; i may have edited after posting on fridge.. | 01:03 | |
| Bashing-om | looking | 01:03 |
| * guiverc adds link to original is on the last line.. | 01:04 | |
| * guiverc suspects massagine for discouse is easier.. no chasing down a missed </p> </a> i forgot etc. | 01:07 | |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: You are going to make me brush up on my markdown skills, now aren't you ? | 01:10 |
| guiverc | i can do it anyway; the use of tags makes details easier to find, fridge would still be used (propagates elsewhere) .. but I suspect discourse would get more readers than fridge posts do, and only for a few mins extra (for myself being my thinking).. | 01:12 |
| Bashing-om | brb doggie do. | 01:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::planet:: Colin Watson: Free software activity in January/February 2024 @ https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/activity-2024-02.html | 01:35 | |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 829 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2024/03/04/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-829/ | 01:35 | |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Whatever we can do to point readers to Discourse is a good thing // Related is with the WIKI articles depreciation due to moves to Discourse we can recommend many of them for removal from the servers. | 01:37 |
| guiverc | removing/deleting wiki pages is easy | 02:13 |
| guiverc | Bashing-om, just fyi, but all our items have tags (news or docs)... https://discourse.ubuntu.com/tags/c/uwn/124/none | 02:33 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: I been watching ^ in betwix my own goings on :P | 02:35 |
| guiverc | currently no 'release' tag is used; there is one with an eol (closed support-request that can be ignored)... if we post release/eol notices on discouse (as well as fridge) | 02:36 |
| guiverc | I suggest we don't add 'news' tag until publish... I just removed 'news' from issue 830 so it now appears in the 124/none search (after all it's the WIP) | 02:39 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Looking - see what I have to do when publishing. | 02:43 |
| guiverc | there is a tag field at top (towards right).. type news and it'll search for news (telling you how many posts have that tag) & you click it... | 02:44 |
| guiverc | you can also adjust via PEN at top title/edit bit; again it's to the right (field below title) | 02:45 |
| * guiverc looking at skeleton/template currently... looking for easy/clear way to 'document' the tags | 02:46 | |
| guiverc | we probably could add 'tag' UWN for all.. currently only skeleton uses that tag | 02:47 |
| guiverc | added "Please also add the 'news' tag at publish time (whilst work-in-progress it can be found due to no-tag)" to skeleton in comments; feel free to adjust if better way to put it | 02:50 |
| guiverc | I'll add 'uwn' tag to all docs | 02:50 |
| guiverc | (all our docs I mean) | 02:51 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: I fail to understand how/where to see "tags" :( I have 830 open and do not see what I expected to see :( | 02:54 |
| guiverc | if I click edit.. I see "Ubuntu Weekly .. 830" at top in title.. below that the "Ubuntu Weekly" or area of discourse at left & "optional tags" to the right of that... that's where you type news (& wait for it to search for matching tags)... | 02:56 |
| guiverc | its outside of the area where all the work is done; meta-fields at top.. you can change via PEN at title screen too | 02:57 |
| guiverc | do you want me to add 'uwn' tag there; you can then view/edit again & find it; then remove it (as test/play?) | 02:58 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: No can do with -what I assume is authorization- the "optional tags" field remains greyed out; I can not type in that box :( | 03:06 |
| guiverc | if i edit 830, you'll lose nothing? | 03:06 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: I have nothing else pendin in 830. | 03:07 |
| Bashing-om | pending* | 03:07 |
| guiverc | I've modified 830 to have 'uwn' tag... if you can see/find it; try removing it. | 03:08 |
| Bashing-om | looking | 03:08 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Yup - had to "discard" and reopen. Now I do see the "uwn" tag :D | 03:11 |
| guiverc | remove it... & save.. | 03:11 |
| guiverc | (or change it to docs maybe.. your choice..) we can remove again once testing complete | 03:12 |
| Bashing-om | removed and saved. | 03:12 |
| guiverc | yep.. it disappeared on my window here too :) | 03:13 |
| guiverc | do we want 'uwn' tag on all?? I'm not sure we gain much with it (docs I think were worthwhile) | 03:19 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Got me - I feel that the "news" tag has the broader reach for searchs. | 03:23 |
| guiverc | both news & docs tags are used by non Ubuntu-news posts... the uwn tag would be our-own.. but the area of discourse tells people the team that created the post anyway (thus why I don't see need) | 03:24 |
| guiverc | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/search?q=tags%3Anews shows our UWN articles.. netplan news, rocks news etc.. (ours are at top I suspect mostly as recently changed due to 'news' tag edit) | 03:25 |
| Bashing-om | Presently I too do not see a need - in the future if that changes we can always then add a tag. | 03:26 |
| guiverc | ack.. & thanks | 03:26 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: No thnaks to me - you have put in a lot of *effort* . | 03:33 |
| guiverc | not really... just noticed others using tags; we hadn't & I can see where they could be useful in searches etc.. | 03:33 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: As in all things - this too is a learning process :P | 03:36 |
| guiverc | (if only I wasn't forgetting so much that I did learn...) | 03:37 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Only so much mortal ram we posses - got to purge/compress the old to make room for today ? | 03:40 |
| * guiverc wishes I had more control on what i forget.. | 03:41 | |
| Bashing-om | Well - I too suffered a brain injury as a youngster - lost ALL my child hood memories. Just not there :( | 03:43 |
| guiverc | sorry to hear that Bashing-om (sorry I went elsewhere).. | 04:35 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Is OK - Those non-existent memories do not impact what is today :D | 04:57 |
| guiverc | :) | 04:58 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::fridge:: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 829 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2024/03/04/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-829/ | 05:43 | |
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