[00:30] <Bashing-om> pepeamid: You bring good tiding of great joy to the channel ?
[00:40] <guiverc> Bashing-om, maybe we should use tags, 'news' for newsletter, 'docs' for our other stuff (glossary etc).. rocks & other areas of discourse use those tags, but the area (of discourse) will allow fine-tuning of searches
[00:41]  * guiverc is only around briefly; off to vet with pup somewhat soon (yearly injections etc)
[00:42] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Sorry I am lost for context as to where "maybe we should use tags" applies :(
[00:45] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/uwn/124   & other searches allow limiting results to specific items.. ie. uwn issues & glossary, link.suggestions appear in that list; if we had 'docs' as tag we could restrict only the 'links, glossary, about etc' to show
[00:46] <guiverc> eg.  i just changed two articles to use 'docs'... they can be easily found now
[00:49] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Anything that enhances search is a good thing - I must get onto the learning cycle to make application.
[00:49] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/tags/c/uwn/124/docs  now shows only 'docs'...  
[00:50] <guiverc> (unless I missed any anyway.. will have to add 'news' later to others)
[00:51] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Neat - we like clean too :P
[01:00] <guiverc> (we could even re-massage the ML stuff I post to fridge on release/eol/eoss & paste the discourse with release tag maybe..;  aren't that many of those; 24.04 will be next)
[01:02] <guiverc> https://dpaste.com/2RUKART67 shows what I created from the ML post where 99% of text (all but last line) comes from
[01:03]  * guiverc assumes that's the final; my local copy anyway; i may have edited after posting on fridge..
[01:03] <Bashing-om> looking
[01:04]  * guiverc adds link to original is on the last line..
[01:07]  * guiverc suspects massagine for discouse is easier.. no chasing down a missed </p> </a> i forgot etc.
[01:10] <Bashing-om> guiverc: You are going to make me brush up on my markdown skills, now aren't you ?
[01:12] <guiverc> i can do it anyway; the use of tags makes details easier to find, fridge would still be used (propagates elsewhere) .. but I suspect discourse would get more readers than fridge posts do, and only for a few mins extra (for myself being my thinking)..
[01:13] <Bashing-om> brb doggie  do. 
[01:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::planet:: Colin Watson: Free software activity in January/February 2024 @ https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/activity-2024-02.html
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[01:37] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Whatever we can do to point readers to Discourse is a good thing // Related is with the WIKI articles depreciation due to moves to Discourse we can recommend many of them for removal from the servers.
[02:13] <guiverc> removing/deleting wiki pages is easy
[02:33] <guiverc> Bashing-om, just fyi, but all our items have tags (news or docs)... https://discourse.ubuntu.com/tags/c/uwn/124/none
[02:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I been watching ^ in betwix my own goings on :P
[02:36] <guiverc> currently no 'release' tag is used; there is one with an eol (closed support-request that can be ignored)... if we post release/eol notices on discouse (as well as fridge)
[02:39] <guiverc> I suggest we don't add 'news' tag until publish... I just removed 'news' from issue 830 so it now appears in the 124/none search  (after all it's the WIP)
[02:43] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Looking - see what I have to do when publishing.
[02:44] <guiverc> there is a tag field at top (towards right).. type news and it'll search for news (telling you how many posts have that tag) & you click it...
[02:45] <guiverc> you can also adjust via PEN at top title/edit bit;  again it's to the right (field below title)
[02:46]  * guiverc looking at skeleton/template currently... looking for easy/clear way to 'document' the tags
[02:47] <guiverc> we probably could add 'tag' UWN for all.. currently only skeleton uses that tag
[02:50] <guiverc> added "Please also add the 'news' tag at publish time (whilst work-in-progress it can be found due to no-tag)"  to skeleton in comments; feel free to adjust if better way to put it
[02:50] <guiverc> I'll add 'uwn' tag to all docs
[02:51] <guiverc> (all our docs I mean)
[02:54] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I fail to understand how/where to see "tags" :( I have 830 open and do not see what I expected to see :(
[02:56] <guiverc> if I click edit.. I see "Ubuntu Weekly .. 830" at top in title.. below that the "Ubuntu Weekly" or area of discourse at left & "optional tags" to the right of that... that's where you type news (& wait for it to search for matching tags)...
[02:57] <guiverc> its outside of the area where all the work is done; meta-fields at top.. you can change via PEN at title screen too
[02:58] <guiverc> do you want me to add 'uwn' tag there; you can then view/edit again & find it; then remove it (as test/play?)
[03:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc: No can do with -what I assume is authorization- the "optional tags" field remains greyed out; I can not type in that box :(
[03:06] <guiverc> if i edit 830, you'll lose nothing?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I have nothing else pendin in 830.
[03:07] <Bashing-om> pending*
[03:08] <guiverc> I've modified 830 to have 'uwn' tag... if you can see/find it; try removing it.
[03:08] <Bashing-om> looking
[03:11] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup - had to "discard" and reopen. Now I do see the "uwn" tag :D
[03:11] <guiverc> remove it... & save..
[03:12] <guiverc> (or change it to docs maybe.. your choice..)  we can remove again once testing complete
[03:12] <Bashing-om> removed and saved. 
[03:13] <guiverc> yep.. it disappeared on my window here too :)
[03:19] <guiverc> do we want 'uwn' tag on all??  I'm not sure we gain much with it (docs I think were worthwhile)
[03:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Got me - I feel that the "news" tag has the broader reach for searchs.
[03:24] <guiverc> both news & docs tags are used by non Ubuntu-news posts... the uwn tag would be our-own.. but the area of discourse tells people the team that created the post anyway (thus why I don't see need)
[03:25] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/search?q=tags%3Anews  shows our UWN articles.. netplan news, rocks news etc.. (ours are at top I suspect mostly as recently changed due to 'news' tag edit)
[03:26] <Bashing-om> Presently I too do not see a need - in the future if that changes we can always then add a tag.
[03:26] <guiverc> ack.. & thanks
[03:33] <Bashing-om> guiverc: No thnaks to me - you have put in a lot of *effort* .
[03:33] <guiverc> not really... just noticed others using tags; we hadn't & I can see where they could be useful in searches etc..
[03:36] <Bashing-om> guiverc: As in all things - this too is a learning process :P
[03:37] <guiverc> (if only I wasn't forgetting so much that I did learn...)
[03:40] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Only so much mortal ram we posses - got to purge/compress the old to make room for today ?
[03:41]  * guiverc wishes I had more control on what i forget..
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Well - I too suffered a brain injury as a youngster - lost ALL my child hood memories. Just not there :(
[04:35] <guiverc> sorry to hear that Bashing-om (sorry I went elsewhere)..
[04:57] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Is OK - Those non-existent memories do not impact what is today :D
[04:58] <guiverc> :)
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