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| cpaelzer | slyon: didrocks: RM planning makes me unavailable this and next week - would you be around to drive the meeting later? | 13:42 |
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| didrocks | cpaelzer: as usual, I have a conflict and will not be available | 13:56 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: I can drive it today | 14:12 |
| slyon | o/ paelzer is no available today. I'll run the MIR meeting. | 15:30 |
| slyon | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:30:34 UTC. The chair is slyon. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:30 |
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| slyon | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 15:30 |
| slyon | #topic current component mismatches | 15:30 |
| slyon | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:30 |
| slyon | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:30 |
| slyon | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:30 |
| joalif | o/ | 15:30 |
| sarnold | good morning | 15:31 |
| slyon | for c-m: We got trace-cmd seeded while the MIR is not yet fully ready. But It's beeing worked on. I linked the most recent MIRs for libtraceevent and libtracefs this morning | 15:32 |
| slyon | libtraceevent is making some progress (patch adding tests needs review & sponsoring), libtracefs is stuck currently reaching out for help from the Foundations system squad | 15:32 |
| slyon | c-m-proposed: we have a bunch of new stuff in here.. | 15:33 |
| slyon | gst-plugins-good1.0 and roc-toolkit are desktop-packages. So I'd like to ask didrocks to investigate those (later on) | 15:33 |
| slyon | jaraco.text and python-openstacksdk are ubuntu-openstack packages, for jamespage to look into. | 15:34 |
| slyon | Everything else seems known/explained | 15:34 |
| jamespage | will look | 15:34 |
| slyon | thx! | 15:34 |
| slyon | #topic New MIRs | 15:34 |
| slyon | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:34 |
| slyon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:34 |
| slyon | bug #2056099 | 15:35 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2056099 in tree (Ubuntu) "[MIR] tree" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2056099 | 15:35 | |
| slyon | was this discussed last week? (I wasn't here) | 15:35 |
| slyon | looks like foundations agreed to own the package. So it could go through MIR review. | 15:36 |
| sarnold | I think last week we decided to see if foundations would accept it | 15:36 |
| ahresse_ | Hello, this has been discussed last year and a owner was missing but foundation is actually willing to take it. | 15:36 |
| sarnold | and the last comment suggests that they have :) | 15:36 |
| ahresse_ | last week* | 15:36 |
| slyon | do we have any volunteers? (I'd like to abstain, as this will be foundations owned) | 15:36 |
| slyon | joalif or cpaelzer maybe? | 15:36 |
| joalif | slyon: I can take it | 15:37 |
| slyon | thank you! | 15:37 |
| slyon | assigned. | 15:37 |
| slyon | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:37 |
| slyon | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:37 |
| slyon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:37 |
| slyon | there are two *trace* updates (bug #2051916 & bug #2051925) that I explained earlier. Nothing actionable for the MIR team, yet. | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2051916 in libtraceevent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote libtraceevent as a trace-cmd dependency" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051916 | 15:39 | |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2051925 in libtracefs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote libtracefs as a trace-cmd dependency" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051925 | 15:39 | |
| slyon | Finally, bug #2054480 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2054480 in nbd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nbd-client" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2054480 | 15:39 | |
| * slyon reading... | 15:39 | |
| slyon | MIR reviewer asked for additional/improved testing. Upstream developers are involved. So this is correctly set to "Incomplete" and back to the reporter for now until resolved. | 15:40 |
| slyon | Nothing to do for us | 15:40 |
| slyon | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 15:41 |
| slyon | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 15:41 |
| slyon | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 15:41 |
| slyon | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 15:41 |
| slyon | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/52 which is related to the `tree` MIR above | 15:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 52 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Suggested owner should provide a confirmation from the owning team" [Open] | 15:42 | |
| slyon | being addressed via https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/53 | 15:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 53 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Rationale and ownership" [Open] | 15:42 | |
| slyon | let's put our +1 or suggestions for improvement on GitHub, so paelzer can mere once ready | 15:43 |
| slyon | merge* | 15:43 |
| slyon | Then we have eslerm's https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/51 | 15:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 51 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "cargo vendor adds unnecessary crates" [Open] | 15:44 | |
| slyon | consensus seems to be adding per-package hacks in debian/rules to delete unnecessary vendored crates. Which was my understanding, too. | 15:45 |
| slyon | This is not nice, but probably better than shipping (and reviewing) lots of unused code. | 15:46 |
| slyon | I brought the cause up with the Foundations toolchaing squad. They are currently busy, so we should not expect a centralized solution soon. I'll try to push it for next cycle's roadmap, though. | 15:46 |
| slyon | so I guess that it's mostly for didrocks to look into fixing/cleaning up his package manually | 15:47 |
| slyon | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:47 |
| slyon | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:47 |
| slyon | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 15:47 |
| slyon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:47 |
| slyon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:47 |
| slyon | Internal link | 15:47 |
| slyon | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:47 |
| slyon | sarnold: what's the security-team's status? | 15:47 |
| slyon | bug #2055434 looks like it needs a `sec-*` tag | 15:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2055434 in pemmican (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pemmican" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2055434 | 15:49 | |
| sarnold | slyon: I belivee that we're still doing alright, but some departures from the team may impact our velocity if we have late additions in the cycle | 15:49 |
| slyon | The number of new MIRs has been relatively low (or rather balanced before feature freeze) this cycle. Let's hope it stays this way and we don't get a lot of late additions. | 15:50 |
| sarnold | there we go, https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/SEC-3971 | 15:50 |
| slyon | sweet thanks! | 15:50 |
| slyon | #topic Any other business? | 15:51 |
| sarnold | yeah, it's felt very calm .. a little too calm .. *harmonica music* | 15:51 |
| joalif | sarnold: wrt https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/SEC-3971 it may not need a sec review after all | 15:51 |
| sarnold | none here (well, I've got a very small nagging feeling that I've forgotten something. sigh. but if I can't remember it now...) | 15:51 |
| slyon | joalif: that's because it's not a root daemon? | 15:53 |
| sarnold | joalif: it sounded a bit like it's got a root daemon and a client of some sort, but I couldn't quickly tell if non-root was supposed to be able to use it, etc .. | 15:53 |
| sarnold | if non-root processes are communicating with a root daemon as part of the task, then it's probably worth a quick look | 15:53 |
| joalif | well it's not a deamon, and th i spent quite some time if this needs a sec review and decided to play on safe side and put it for sec review | 15:54 |
| joalif | ok lemme discuss it with waveform on the bug and if need be i'll remove it from sec review | 15:55 |
| slyon | thanks joalif! | 15:55 |
| sarnold | nice, thanks :) | 15:55 |
| slyon | If nothing else, that's all for today. | 15:56 |
| joalif | nothing else from me | 15:56 |
| slyon | thanks all! | 15:56 |
| slyon | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:56:10 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-03-12-15.30.moin.txt | 15:56 |
| joalif | thanks slyon, all:) | 15:56 |
| sarnold | thanks slyon, all :) | 15:56 |
| * vorlon waves | 19:58 | |
| amurray | o/ | 19:59 |
| seb128 | hey | 20:02 |
| amurray | hey seb128 | 20:02 |
| vorlon | amurray: wiki says you're chair? | 20:02 |
| amurray | ah right - yep | 20:03 |
| amurray | #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board | 20:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 20:03:08 UTC. The chair is amurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20:03 |
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| amurray | #topic Apologies | 20:03 |
| amurray | rbasak sent his apologies earlier | 20:03 |
| amurray | #topic Action review | 20:03 |
| amurray | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:03 |
| seb128 | carry over again I guess | 20:04 |
| amurray | yep | 20:04 |
| amurray | #action seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:04 |
| amurray | ACTION: seb128 to organize a meeting to unblock the draft of the tracks usage section | 20:04 |
| seb128 | rbasak took over this one as we planned to squeeze also that topic in the meeting he is organizing | 20:05 |
| amurray | will carry-over since we will try again once rbasak is feeling better | 20:05 |
| seb128 | which was supposed to be today but got postponed | 20:05 |
| amurray | #action rbasak to organize a meeting to unblock the draft of the tracks usage section | 20:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to organize a meeting to unblock the draft of the tracks usage section | 20:05 |
| amurray | will carry over rbasak's items then too | 20:05 |
| amurray | #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:06 |
| amurray | #action rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps | 20:06 |
| amurray | #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 20:06 |
| amurray | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:06 |
| seb128 | carry over please | 20:06 |
| amurray | I wanted to ask a quick question on this - I have the process ready for the security team but just wasn't sure where to post it? any ideas? discourse / wiki? | 20:07 |
| seb128 | either is fine I think | 20:07 |
| seb128 | people seem to prefer discourse nowadays | 20:08 |
| amurray | ok - will go with that then - thanks | 20:08 |
| amurray | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:08 |
| seb128 | great :) | 20:08 |
| amurray | oops forgot to carry over the other one | 20:08 |
| amurray | #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:08 |
| seb128 | please carry this one also over again but I will handle it tomorrow, feature freeze and proposed stated had been time sinks | 20:09 |
| amurray | #action seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request | 20:09 |
| amurray | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 20:09 |
| vorlon | sorry, haven't gotten to this yet | 20:09 |
| vorlon | I guess if we're voting yes on Kubuntu now it's not urgent? | 20:10 |
| vorlon | but I would still like to keep the action, to do before 24.04, unless someone else wants to learn about this stuff from me and work on it | 20:10 |
| amurray | not urgent but I would still like to see them finalise their list before the LTS goes out | 20:10 |
| vorlon | indeed | 20:10 |
| amurray | hmm also should there be an action item on me for the kubuntu LTS request? | 20:11 |
| amurray | I don | 20:11 |
| amurray | 't see anything - will add one | 20:11 |
| amurray | #action amurray to follow-up with kubuntu on 24.04 LTS request | 20:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amurray to follow-up with kubuntu on 24.04 LTS request | 20:11 |
| amurray | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:12 |
| amurray | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-March/thread.html | 20:12 |
| amurray | nothing new | 20:12 |
| amurray | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 20:12 |
| amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard | 20:12 |
| amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard | 20:12 |
| amurray | nothing here either | 20:13 |
| amurray | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) | 20:13 |
| amurray | looks like its rbasak with seb128 as backup | 20:13 |
| amurray | #agreed next meeting chair: rabask, backup: seb128 | 20:13 |
| meetingology | AGREED: next meeting chair: rabask, backup: seb128 | 20:13 |
| seb128 | ack | 20:14 |
| amurray | #topic AOB | 20:14 |
| vorlon | one item for AOB | 20:14 |
| vorlon | I noticed when doing a "census" from the Release Team side of our LTS qualifications | 20:14 |
| vorlon | that Ubuntu MATE doesn't appear to have applied yet for LTS status | 20:14 |
| vorlon | does someone want to reach out to them and find out if they plan to? | 20:14 |
| seb128 | right, that was discussed yesterday during the flavors sync call | 20:14 |
| vorlon | (it's fine if they don't do LTS, of course) | 20:14 |
| vorlon | seb128: oh ok - what's the news? | 20:15 |
| seb128 | someone took an action item to reach to Martin to ask | 20:15 |
| seb128 | but the few people who had feedback said that the MATE team seems mostly inactive recently | 20:15 |
| vorlon | ok | 20:16 |
| seb128 | ah, someone was Mauro | 20:16 |
| vorlon | that's fine then | 20:16 |
| seb128 | (just checked the meeting note) | 20:16 |
| vorlon | I just didn't want this to slip by unnoticed | 20:16 |
| amurray | there is a topic over in their discourse but I don't see anything definitive there | 20:16 |
| vorlon | since the MATE team's communications preferences seem misaligned with the Release Team's and the Tech Board's these days | 20:16 |
| amurray | #link https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/plans-for-24-04-lts/27110/4 | 20:16 |
| seb128 | amurray, right, I think that one was used as a basis for the claim that the dev team isn't responsive/around much recently | 20:17 |
| amurray | I'll ask in that thread as well and tag Martin as well | 20:19 |
| seb128 | amurray, thanks (and maybe check first with Mauro if he already did since he took an action about it yesterday) | 20:19 |
| seb128 | well I mean reaching out to them | 20:19 |
| seb128 | though I guess a public post wouldn't hurt in any case | 20:20 |
| vorlon | Martin *did* come to the Ubuntu Summit so it's not entirely moribund? | 20:20 |
| amurray | yeah I think its fine for the TB to enquire for our own purposes - it would definitely be a shame for MATE to not be part of the LTS | 20:20 |
| vorlon | again, it's fine if a flavor doesn't want to do LTS support | 20:20 |
| seb128 | right, well let's see what they reply | 20:21 |
| vorlon | just don't want to make sure that's a conscious decision (or the outcome of an assessment of the flavor's capacity), not an accident of timing | 20:21 |
| vorlon | s/don't// | 20:21 |
| amurray | agreed | 20:21 |
| amurray | thanks for raising it vorlon | 20:21 |
| amurray | anything else? | 20:22 |
| vorlon | nothing else here | 20:22 |
| seb128 | nothing from me | 20:22 |
| amurray | easy - thanks folks | 20:22 |
| amurray | #endmeeting | 20:22 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 20:22:59 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-03-12-20.03.moin.txt | 20:22 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 20:23 |
| vorlon | seb128, amurray: thank you! | 20:23 |
| amurray | likewise :) | 20:24 |
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