[04:06] <lotuspsychje> seems like bug #2044167 is translated now on my side after doing updates
[04:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2044167 in language-pack-gnome-nl (Ubuntu) "livepatch strings not fully translated to dutch in noble" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044167
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> seems like the gnome shell crashes are related to firefox, when closing FF i can invoke the crash
[12:42] <ravage> yes. i can reproduce it that way too
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> ravage: i started to find bug #2056633
[12:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2056506 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-dock 89 crashes on gnome-shell 45 with signal 6 when right clicking on the dock [clutter_actor_dispose: assertion failed: (priv->parent == NULL)]" [High, Fix Committed] [duplicate: 2056633] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2056506
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> but i dont really see a mention of FF
[12:46] <ravage> i dont think that is our bug
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> could be yeah
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> but then im also unsure if it only happens on FF close
[12:47] <ravage> my system uploads crashes multiple times a day though 🙂
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> think i had it some other ways too
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> same here
[12:47] <ravage> would be great if that could also generate a bug report
[12:47] <ravage> but i dont know how to do that
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> well our crash file exist in /var/crash
[12:48] <ravage> yes but why cant you just link to an uploaded report?
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> i didnt file one yet, as im waiting for gnome 46
[12:49] <ravage> are we sure we will still get that?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> we will have to see
[12:49] <ravage> seems a little late for such a big change
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> Eickmeyer adviced me to not file bugs until 46
[12:51] <ravage> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-schedule/35649
[12:51] <ravage> march 21st
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> yeah, a lil more wait :p
[12:52] <ravage> but then it says beta on feb. 15th
[12:52] <ravage> so not sure whats going on 🙂
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> to test early
[12:54] <ravage> yes ok. but do we have gnome-shell 45.3 then?
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/gnome-46-beta-released/19505
[13:00] <ravage> i know it is released.
[13:00] <ravage> but wont be able to report any bugs until march 21st which is very close to a release if you ask me
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> agree
[13:09] <ogra_> you should bring that up in the thread on discourse 
[13:20] <ravage> i have to do more tests. so far the firefox deb does not cause the crash anymore. my thunderbird snap still does
[13:20] <ravage> so there may be a relation so snaps. 
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> ravage: let me see if thunderbird snap invokes it on my side
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> cant trigger it with thunderbird myself
[13:53] <ravage> it must be also somehow hardware related. no crashes on my laptop at all.
[13:54] <ogra_> same kernels ? (there were apparmor changes recently, that might contribute to it)
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> 6.8.0-11-generic here
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> AMD Barcelo driver: amdgpu v: kernel
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> there's so many stuff going on desktop at same time, its hard to findout where its coming from
[13:58] <ravage> generic kernel. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X. nvidia
[13:58] <ravage> laptop is: generic kernel. intel i5 something. intel graphics
[13:59] <ravage> so kernel is the same everywhere
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> ravage: software&sources is not launching on my side neither if you wanna test
[14:06] <ravage> you mean software & updates?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> yeah sorry
[14:06] <ravage> yep. nothing happens 
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> i get a crash window
[14:07] <ravage> just no reaction at all here
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> crashed with value error in___init ....
[14:08] <ravage> but that seems to be related to the new format of the souces file
[14:08] <ravage> it cant handle it
[14:08] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/k9s9flrr.txt
[14:09] <ravage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/2053228
[14:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Launchpad bug 2053228 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties-gtk does not start" [Critical, Triaged]
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> ravage: cant seem to catch much from journal when invoking crash; https://dpaste.org/RMJjd
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje, ravage: gnome 46 beta is entagled in the time_t64 transition, just like everything else. There's a lot that has to do with that. If you see a crash having to do with tracker3-extractor, it's very much a known bug.
[15:14] <ravage> Yes I see that crash too
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> same, affected that1 too