[00:53] <Ricardus> Im having trouble figuring out how to add virtual desktops with the latest LTS of ubuntu studio. I went up to the top bar and right clicked to add the widget for multipe desktops, and it didn't add it to the toolbar when I clicked. So I tried a couple more times. Now it has the number (5) on it and it will only go up, not down. It doesn't seem very intuitive.
[02:18] <Eickmeyer> Ricardus: You'll find that information by opening system settings and search for virtual desktops.
[02:26] <Ricardus> Eickmeyer: my issue is the part with the widgets, and getting that number to one, which is what I think I need there.
[02:27] <Ricardus> I can add the desktops but then my widget field on top blows up with way too many of the virtual desktop widgets
[02:28] <Eickmeyer> Ricardus: I understand that. In the system settings, you can make them all vertical which would let you make the widget smaller.
[02:36] <Ricardus> its adding too many widgets. Because when I right clicked on the widget bad and opened this window, THIS happened.
[02:36] <Ricardus> Eickmeyer: https://imgur.com/a/bjPXmHG
[02:36] <Ricardus> see how the widget slector on the right has a 7 in it, it adds 7 widgets to the top bar. How do I get that number back to 1.
[02:43] <Eickmeyer> Ricardus: Remove the top bar, right-click on the desktop, and add "Ubuntu Studio Default Panel". It'll be the default panel. But adding the widget doesn't add more virtual desktops; that's added from system settings.
[03:39] <Ricardus> Eickmeyer: That did it. Thank you.
[17:16] <sem> Hey all! I took the plunge to install Ubuntu Studio again, this time 23.10 on a desktop instead of the laptop. I'm liking it so far!
[17:17] <sem> Oh no.. when do we have to start using matrix?
[17:48] <OvenWerks> sem: I don't know.
[17:48] <OvenWerks> sem: but yeah that seems to be the direction things are headed.
[17:51] <OvenWerks> There do not seem to be any CLI versions of matrix client. There seems to be some wierd thing where a matrix client I installed but no longer use still sends me email at any new messages. can't figure out how to turn that off.
[17:52] <OvenWerks> 23.10 has worked fine for me too. Normally I use LTS but this machine has HW that needed a newer kernel than 2204.
[17:54] <sem> Nice, I thought since we're so close to 24.04, 23.10 would be a better experience than 22.04 and so far everything I've tried has worked
[17:54] <sem> My main gripe with matrix is how many more features is has compared to irc
[17:55] <sem> More complexity, more lag, more failures 
[17:55] <sem> Only one client that really works
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks, sem: Hopefully it'll be bridged, but bridging comes with its own challenges, that's why Matrix will be primary.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: The email part is in the Matrix client you uninstalled, (probably Element) and needs to be turned off from there. I think I know what option you're talking about.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Here's a terminal/text-based client: https://github.com/tulir/gomuks
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> sem: The lag is mostly due to matrix.org being overwhelmed, which is one reason why ubuntu has made its own server.
[19:12] <sem> Eickmeyer, thanks for the tips! I'm glad to hear that makes it less laggy
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> Additionally, as time has gone on, more clients have been better, but the Ubuntu Matrix Council has been recommending Element.
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> sem: Yw. :)