| bdrung | \o | 15:00 |
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| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:00 |
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| ginggs | o/ | 15:00 |
| zhsj | o/ | 15:00 |
| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:00 |
| ogayot | o/ | 15:00 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-03-14/ | 15:00 |
| liushuyu | o/ | 15:02 |
| schopin | o/ | 15:02 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:02 |
| dbungert | o/ | 15:02 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 15:03 |
| mkukri | o/ | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | enr0n: is there somebody specific you want to review the polkit-1 change? | 15:05 |
| Skia | o/ | 15:05 |
| enr0n | bdmurray: yes, I requested seb on the MP | 15:05 |
| upils | o/ | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | I'd like to see a photo of "bug grooming" | 15:07 |
| vorlon | adrien: what specifically does openssl need to support wrt LTO? | 15:08 |
| upils | bdmurray, would "backlog grooming" be more appropriate? | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | IDK I just thought it'd be funny to groom a flea / ant. | 15:10 |
| vorlon | do you have nits | 15:10 |
| adrien | \o | 15:11 |
| adrien | oh, DST, that's why, and I'll be not so available :/ | 15:11 |
| adrien | but let me find that | 15:11 |
| schopin | vorlon: I think adrien meant something related to https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/18663 | 15:11 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 18663 in openssl/openssl "-Werror=free-nonheap-object warnings with GCC LTO" [Open] | 15:11 | |
| adrien | there are several issues, and at least a recent one with clang and ppc64el | 15:12 |
| adrien | it all revolves around aliasing | 15:12 |
| adrien | moreover I'm not sure it brings much performance for openssl | 15:12 |
| schopin | And it surely murder the build time :) | 15:12 |
| ginggs | bdrung: do you plan to sync libapache2-mod-python ? | 15:13 |
| juliank | let's move on | 15:13 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: Do you have experience w/ umockdev and the fake devices script in ubuntu-drivers-common? | 15:13 |
| vorlon | schopin: "glibc now treating C.UTF-8 the same way it does C" hmm in what way? I did have a build failure I was debugging recently that was locale-sensitive | 15:13 |
| vorlon | (though I've forgotten which) | 15:14 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: sorry, I don't | 15:14 |
| bdrung | ginggs, yes. thanks for the reminder | 15:14 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:14 |
| juliank | bug 2054716 | 15:14 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2054716 in systemd (Ubuntu) "package polkitd 124-1 failed to install/upgrade: installed polkitd package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2054716 | 15:14 | |
| schopin | vorlon: AIUI it won't even look up translations if the locale is C | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | that's well in hand | 15:14 |
| vorlon | schopin: ah - that actually sounds related to the bug I saw | 15:15 |
| vorlon | good to know | 15:15 |
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| juliank | enr0n: Should we just untag the bug or do you want it in jira? | 15:15 |
| enr0n | juliank: let's just untag it | 15:16 |
| juliank | ack | 15:16 |
| juliank | bug 2056562 | 15:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2056562 in shim-signed (Ubuntu) "shim-signed 1.57+15.8-0ubuntu1 upgrade failing due to grub-common/2.12-1ubuntu3 still being present during installation" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2056562 | 15:16 | |
| juliank | I think we can actually just respin noble's shim-signed with Breaks: grub-common (= 2.12-1ubuntu3) for the few people affected by this | 15:17 |
| juliank | It's an ... unconventional use of Breaks, but it avoids order entanglement at upgrade | 15:17 |
| juliank | and that's it for incoming bugs nothing to see in other releases | 15:19 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:19 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:19 |
| juliank | vorlon: | 15:19 |
| vorlon | does the page load today? let's see | 15:20 |
| juliank | I find the issue with my proposed-migration is the runners are full so I don't have the results from last weeks items yet | 15:20 |
| vorlon | 450 packages needing attention | 15:20 |
| vorlon | libselinux was mentioned in somebody's status report I think? | 15:20 |
| schopin | adrien but he's AFK right now because DST | 15:21 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:21 |
| vorlon | so I'll leave libselinux with adrien | 15:21 |
| vorlon | waveform: you're still working on python-ldap? | 15:21 |
| waveform | yup | 15:22 |
| vorlon | is hyask not here? | 15:22 |
| vorlon | ah Skia | 15:22 |
| schopin | Skia: ^ | 15:22 |
| vorlon | Skia: you're ok to follow through on libbsd vs gvmd? | 15:22 |
| vorlon | python-apt vs apt: juliank | 15:23 |
| juliank | I'm doing all the apt ones | 15:23 |
| vorlon | ack | 15:23 |
| vorlon | a lot of armhf autopkgtest failures there that need retried with --all-proposed, for sure | 15:24 |
| Skia | vorlon: yes, it's just been a moving target all the week, but I do plan on continuing to follow this | 15:24 |
| vorlon | mkukri: are you still on dnspython vs samba? | 15:24 |
| juliank | I'm kind trying to build the recursive list of dependencies and add them as triggers to avoid even more failures from all-proposed | 15:24 |
| mkukri | ack | 15:25 |
| vorlon | I had curl vs nettle assigned last week; this week it looks like curl vs libpsl. anyway this is all tied into the time_t transition, and I'll follow up | 15:25 |
| vorlon | and on libpsl generally | 15:26 |
| vorlon | juliank: does 'all the apt ones' include apt blocking xz-utils on armhf? | 15:26 |
| vorlon | libtirpc: still with liushuyu ? | 15:27 |
| juliank | well, everything blocking apt 2.7.12->2.17.3ubuntu1 | 15:27 |
| upils | that seems related yes. I am waiting for a restest to confirm | 15:27 |
| upils | *retest | 15:27 |
| vorlon | upils: sorry, which is that in response to? | 15:27 |
| juliank | apt blocking xz-utils is what upils retried earlier | 15:27 |
| upils | yes | 15:27 |
| vorlon | ah yes | 15:27 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:27 |
| juliank | Any apt/2.7.12 result needs retrying with apt/2.7.13 trigger | 15:28 |
| vorlon | bear in mind that for any autopkgtest failures on armhf specifically, they should be retested with --all-proposed because 99% are going to require this due to time_t | 15:28 |
| juliank | because apt builds test helpers at test time with now t64 that fail to link against the old t32 library from 2.7.12 | 15:28 |
| vorlon | and if that still fails you should check that the package has been rebuilt in -proposed for the new library package name, and if not, arrange no-change rebuilds | 15:28 |
| vorlon | libuv1 is still with mwhudson | 15:29 |
| vorlon | freetype didn't get assigned last week - bdrung can you take it? | 15:29 |
| bdrung | ack | 15:29 |
| vorlon | optipng - bdmurray ? | 15:29 |
| vorlon | libgd2 - cpete__ ? | 15:30 |
| cpete__ | bdmurack | 15:30 |
| vorlon | is cpete an internal gcc macro | 15:30 |
| cpete__ | ack | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | okay | 15:30 |
| vorlon | casper vs plymouth: dbungert | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | Tim would like one too | 15:30 |
| dbungert | ack for casper vs plymouth | 15:31 |
| vorlon | slang2: Tim | 15:31 |
| vorlon | nfs-utils vs adsys: danilogondolfo | 15:31 |
| vorlon | pyopenssl: ginggs | 15:31 |
| danilogondolfo | vorlon, ack | 15:31 |
| ginggs | ack | 15:31 |
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| vorlon | software-properties vs dconf: ooh it's not a time_t one. xypron | 15:32 |
| xypron | ok | 15:32 |
| vorlon | xypron: actually there are 3 separate autopkgtest failures on arm64 in response to dconf: software-properties, update-manager, update-notifier. So probably a dconf regression, can you look at all of these please? | 15:33 |
| vorlon | (dconf itself is not ours, so it's ok if the investigation results in turning it over to the Desktop Team to fix) | 15:33 |
| vorlon | libvpx: slyon | 15:33 |
| slyon | ok | 15:33 |
| vorlon | initramfs-tools vs netplan.io on armhf: mateus-morais | 15:33 |
| mateus-morais | ack | 15:34 |
| vorlon | libgtk3-perl: enr0n | 15:34 |
| enr0n | vorlon: ack | 15:34 |
| vorlon | software-properties vs gtk+3.0: ogayot | 15:34 |
| bdrung | vorlon, I am taking initramfs-tools vs netplan.io - this needs just some handholding | 15:34 |
| ogayot | vorlon: ack | 15:34 |
| vorlon | ubuntu-release-upgrader vs gtk+2.0: mateus-morais since bdrung is stealing | 15:35 |
| mateus-morais | vorlon: ok | 15:35 |
| bdrung | (i want to check that the initramfs-tools tests became stable again) | 15:35 |
| vorlon | mateus-morais: please also take update-manager, update-notifier, and vim blocking gtk+3.0 - these are probably all just autopkgtest retries | 15:35 |
| mateus-morais | ack | 15:35 |
| vorlon | fwupd vs libmbim: pushkarnk | 15:35 |
| pushkarnk | ack | 15:36 |
| vorlon | pushkarnk: fwupd is also blocking libqmi and modemmanager, so please check on these too, probably same root cause | 15:36 |
| pushkarnk | vorlon: ok | 15:36 |
| vorlon | pango1.0 vs harfbuzz: schopin | 15:36 |
| schopin | ack | 15:36 |
| vorlon | schopin: hmmm raqm and pango1.0 both fail on harfbuzz/arm64, please look at both | 15:36 |
| schopin | ok | 15:37 |
| vorlon | cryptsetup vs jq: zhsj | 15:37 |
| vorlon | and we'll stop there | 15:37 |
| vorlon | anyone who runs out of things to do this week on proposed-migration, there's plenty more ;) | 15:37 |
| vorlon | juliank: back to you | 15:37 |
| zhsj | ack | 15:37 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:40 |
| juliank | any other business? | 15:40 |
| juliank | any other busyness? :D | 15:40 |
| vorlon | busy busy | 15:40 |
| juliank | I still need to take half a day this month! | 15:41 |
| schopin | 29th afternoon? | 15:41 |
| juliank | Probably like next Wednesday afternoon? | 15:41 |
| bdrung | I am taking my remaining days at the end of the month | 15:41 |
| juliank | Rather ad-hoc when it's sunny and nobody wants to meet | 15:41 |
| enr0n | I will be out most of next week. Starting Tuesday afternoon, and will be back the following Monday | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | I'll be working in a different location most of next week | 15:43 |
| schopin | bdmurray: will your working hours change? | 15:44 |
| bdmurray | No | 15:44 |
| bdmurray | Same time zone | 15:44 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:47:09 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-03-14-15.00.moin.txt | 15:47 |
| vorlon | thanks! | 15:47 |
| adrien | vorlon: libselinux is waiting on umockdev tests from 3 days ago | 16:09 |
| adrien | (I joined here on my phone a bit later than I had wanted because I had used irc.freenode.net out of habit...) | 16:10 |
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