[01:10] <guiverc> does bucklespring rely on xorg???    (no clickety-clack on speakers today & I'm using GNOME/Wayland
[01:11]  * guiverc sees two x11 deps in bucklespring package, so I'm guessing it's the wayland as to silence..
[01:12] <oerheks> this github says so, and howto build for wayland https://github.com/zevv/bucklespring/blob/master/README.md
[01:13] <oerheks> maybe the snap does?
[01:14] <guiverc> i can't see me making a change.. just 'feels' weird typing summaries for uwn & 'silence'  (excluding real keyboard noise)
[01:15] <guiverc> i might try the snap version though, thanks for idea oerheks :)
[01:15] <oerheks> alternative neptune, https://github.com/M1ndo/Neptune
[01:16] <oerheks> for gui-people
[01:18] <guiverc> the snap version is NOISY when typing here (hexchat), but quite when I use gnome-terminal or mousepad ??
[01:19] <oerheks> no idea, no setting in sounds?
[01:21] <guiverc> actually the deb version is responding the same (I'd just not tested before in this window... snap version responds to clicks here.. but both are quiet on mousepad (where I actually notice no sounds..))... i'll ignore it & just have music play... thanks oerheks 
[01:21] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:21] <guiverc> (snap version also makes noise on mouse.clicks, i'm not getting that from deb version, otherwise same for both)
[01:21] <guiverc> :)
[01:25] <JanC> HexChat is Gtk2, so it uses X...
[01:26] <guiverc> yep.. last gtk2 app I think on this box..
[01:26] <JanC> (=XWayland when you use Gnome on Wayland)
[01:27] <JanC> so if the "clickety-clack" apps only work on X11, it's quite possible HexChat works, but most other apps won't...
[01:28] <guiverc> ^ which is what it appears to be doing here (ubuntu noble)
[01:30] <arraybolt3> I just use a really loud keyboard :)
[01:31] <arraybolt3> (some sort of ancient Microsoft thing that connects via PS/2 which I then connect to my desktop and then can use on my laptop with the help of Barrier).
[01:31] <arraybolt3> keys are a bit too hard to press for my liking, but it's a decent keyboard all the same.
[01:37] <guiverc> I am using mostly old ibm model M.. but when summarizing for uwn I like the additional 'echo' of the keys from speakers...
[01:39] <guiverc> (if it really worried me, I could log & return to a lubuntu session & I get normal behavior.. likewise xubuntu too.. and maybe even GNOME if I logged in with Xorg session which I think is available)
[01:41] <oerheks> or use quassel ?
[01:41] <guiverc> nah.. I want the sound when I type into mousepad as i type out summaries reading from firefox...  hexchat is the only window giving me sound currently.. 
[01:51] <JanC> should work in Gimp too...
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning