[00:08] <oerheks> disks tool can do that, for years
[00:09] <bray90820> You mean The one that coems with ububtu?
[00:10] <Bashing-om> bray90820: Too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools .
[00:11] <bray90820> Yeah I used that and it appered that my drive was Ok
[00:12] <bray90820> Ok Just tested it appears something is weird with my windows VM so nevermind any of this
[00:23] <tpanarch1st> Hello, Ubuntu can't find icu or pkg-config which I need to address an error, many thanks :)
[01:04] <tpanarch1st> hey, sorry libera.chat throws me off at periodic intervals. Were there any responses please
[01:05] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: no, you quit basically immediately, it's pretty rare for anyone to answer after someone's left :)
[01:05] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icu
[01:05] <oerheks> to file a bug,
[01:05] <oerheks> !bug
[01:06] <oerheks> yeah, you quit yoursel f, likely * tpanarch1st has quit (Quit: Client closed)
[01:06] <tpanarch1st> sarnold - yes I can imagine it appears rather rude, every so sorry, sometimes it can take hours before somebody replies - which of course I don't mind - but you end up swapping web window and then this connection then decides to disconnect on you! It's highly frustrating.
[01:07] <oerheks> ...
[01:07] <tpanarch1st> no, I didn't deliberately quit :)
[01:07] <oerheks> if the client got disconnected, it pings time out.
[01:07] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: try running: apt policy pkg-config pkgconf  -- install whichever one is in main
[01:07] <sarnold> 2024-03-16 00:25:01 -!- tpanarch1st [~tpanarch1@217.155.98.102] has quit [Quit: Client closed]
[01:08] <sarnold> the irc server received a graceful quit message from your irc client
[01:08] <tpanarch1st> I can only swear on my life that I simply switched browser tab and was doing something else for a while. I'm using web.libera.chat
[01:08] <tpanarch1st> (Google Chrome for Linux)
[01:08] <sarnold> ah. I wonder if your web client puts tabs to sleep when they're not visible?
[01:08] <tpanarch1st> I think it may - it's blooming annoying!
[01:09] <tpanarch1st> thanks sarnold :)
[01:09] <oerheks> never had those issues with chrome and firefox
[01:10] <tpanarch1st> oh yeah I didn't know if there was any known issues between Google Chrome for Linux, web.libera.chat and yourselves :)
[01:11] <tpanarch1st> sarnold I got Unable to locate package install
[01:11] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: hah, sorry, the "-- install .. " is just normal english ;)
[01:11] <tpanarch1st> oh woops!
[01:13] <tpanarch1st> sarnold pkg-config:  Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.29.1-0ubuntu4 Version table: 0.29.1-0ubuntu4 500  500 https://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/main amd64 Packages
[01:13] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: that's the one, sudo apt install pkg-config
[01:14] <tpanarch1st> sarnold thanks that's done that - then there's ICU :)
[01:16] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: sudo apt install libicu66 libicu-dev  -- you might also need icu-devtools, it depends what you're doing with it I guess
[01:16] <tpanarch1st> are it's FreePBX to install their user portal :)
[01:17] <tpanarch1st> i'm having super fun and games. To save some typing both ways, my VPS company wouldn't allow me to use a .iso so I couldn't install the official distro.
[01:18] <sarnold> that's a bit weird but very few cloud environs start from an iso, instead they'll start from an already-installed system image and run a user-supplied cloud-init script to configure users, ssh keys, etc
[01:18] <sarnold> s/environs/machines/  or something like that, heh
[01:22] <tpanarch1st> ah fsir sarnold - well that's installed that.
[01:25] <tpanarch1st> Next (I don't expect (nor have any right to expect) you to answer this unless you want to - so just open to anyone if you prefer) - the freepbx interface has the ability to add a Let's Encrypt certificate. That process has reported as successful. I have an FQDN, as you'd probably expect from my VPS company and a dedicated IP. Currently, the PBX web
[01:25] <tpanarch1st> interface can be accessed via the IP/admin or the FQDN/admin - it makes no odds whether I type https:// or http currently. Either way, i'm getting the dreaded insecure warning :)
[01:27] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: I suggest starting with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?viaform=on&d= and seeing what it reports about your site, it might say that you've misconfigured the certificate chain, or that's missing entirely, or poor algorithm choices, etc..
[01:30] <tpanarch1st> ah fair sarnold - it suggests that it is uncontactable
[01:30] <tpanarch1st> I currently have Fail2ban installed if this makes any difference
[01:30] <sarnold> it might
[01:31] <sarnold> your VPS might have a firewall in place, too; amazon and some others call them "security groups" (a name I detest, but they didn't ask me first)
[01:31] <tpanarch1st> oooh i'd be happy if it did, how might I find out please
[01:32] <tpanarch1st> I guess though, that this may be stopping let's encrypt from doing it's thing - but - I would have thought that the let's encrypt cert would not have been successful on install in the first place...
[01:34] <sarnold> hmm, good points; letsencrypt can work through a few different methods, though, and perhaps the certbot network requirements are open enough, but standard web requests aren't?
[01:35] <sarnold> checking if you've got cloud-provided firewalling in place is pretty hard, there's no standard for that. if there's a web interface, it's probably under a "firewall" or "routing" or "security" heading of some sort. if you're using tools like nova and neutron, I'm not sure where it'd be :) but probably neutron would be where I'd start looking
[01:45] <tpanarch1st> sarnold thanks for this - i've raised a ticket with them but I don't expect much as it is an unmanaged service. Is there anything else that I can check that is within my control please?
[01:45] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: yeah; check with sudo ss -tnlp   to make sure that your web server is listening on the IP addresses and ports that you expect
[01:46] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: check sudo iptables -L   to see if the rules look roughly right .. i'm very poor on iptables, and even worse at netfilter :(
[01:49] <tpanarch1st> just running those now - do you have a preferred pastebin please
[01:49] <tpanarch1st> sarnold *
[01:49] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: https://paste.debian.net is nice
[01:49] <tpanarch1st> ah I use that too!
[01:49] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: but whatever you like using, hehe
[01:49] <tpanarch1st> well, to be fair I am talking in ubuntu so i suppose the debian one shouldn't be a big surprise :)
[01:50] <sarnold> yeah, it gets way more use than eg the fedora one, hehe
[01:52] <tpanarch1st> hah - here's command 1 sarnold https://paste.debian.net/1310859/
[01:52] <tpanarch1st> do you prefer me to tag messages or not tag messages by the way
[01:53] <sarnold> either way is fine right now, things are pretty dead, so these stand out nicely even without the highlights
[01:53] <tpanarch1st> awesome - thanks :) Here's command 2 https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ef23d56b/
[01:54] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: aha, so apache is listening on port 80, so it can serve http no trouble, but it isn't listening on 443, so it won't do https
[01:54] <tpanarch1st> awesome, now we might be getting somewhere!
[01:56] <sarnold> so, i haven't really done apache in ages .. I think you're looking for something like "sudo a2enable ssl" but i'm not entirely sure what next :(
[01:57] <sarnold> .. hopefully the letsencrypt folks have some handy documentation for that :)
[02:00] <tpanarch1st> sarnold thank you so much :) I shall have a look at that and will probably be back :)
[02:01] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: cool, good luck :) I'm going to head out soon, so the highlights would be nice for anything else :)
[02:01] <chonkin> oerheks   okay here is the current state of the workstation  https://dpaste.com/6KZCWN89R     What should I try next?
[02:03] <tpanarch1st> thanks sarnold - apparently it needs certbot, is that as simple as "which certbot" please
[02:03] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: probably! :) sudo apt install certbot
[02:04] <tpanarch1st> thanks so incredibly much for your kindess!
[02:04] <tpanarch1st> kindness**
[02:06] <sarnold> sure thing :) have a good night, morning, etc :)
[02:22] <chonkin2538> Anyone want to try this one?   https://askubuntu.com/questions/1507648/kde-plasma-5-gui-elements-lag-terribly-after-large-compiles-lag-is-so-bad-the
[02:30] <sarnold> so, it's a gigantic wild guess, but this sure reminds me of kernel memory leaks
[02:31] <sarnold> chonkin2538: try running slabtop soon after booting, grab a copy of the output, and check it over and over again and see if there's any slabs that move to the top of the list or just keep growing more than you'd expect
[02:32] <tpanarch1st> just in #httpd trying to get to the bottom of this one lol
[02:32] <sarnold> chonkin2538: when the system is unhappy, grab another copy of the output before rebooting, then you can compare very early vs very late...
[02:33] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: ah good luck there :) I understand the debian / ubuntu config format is pretty different from the apache upstream config format and that they tend to get grumpy about what's packaged...
[02:38] <chonkin2538> sarnold  I am now experimenting with this again.  I did a compile.  It caused the lag. I am not rebooting.  I have disabled all internet connections and closed all windows and all terminals.
[02:38] <chonkin2538> I was able to close out matlab completely, without rebooting.
[02:39] <chonkin2538> I can do anything you want me to try. I can top. I can ps aux. I can give you free -h memory.  GPU memory free.  Swap file sizes.   Motherboard temps. Anything
[02:41] <chonkin2538> I am absolutely confused as to how a computer could be lagging this hard  witout the memory being full and without a single sign of a misbehaving process.
[02:41] <chonkin2538> One theory is that the ethernet port is heating up and the OS is continually "waiting" for it to do something.   It responds slowly.
[02:42] <chonkin2538> But I have since disabled all ethernets.
[02:43] <chonkin2538> This is a workplace computer.  I have been suffering under this problem FOR MONTHS.
[02:44] <sarnold> ouch :(
[02:45] <sarnold> I'd watch journalctl -f, dmesg -w, slabtop, vmstat 1, as my starting points
[02:45] <tpanarch1st> sarnold httpd are not being helpful - 443 is not set up to listen they confrim. Is this helpful please https://paste.debian.net/1310870/ ?
[02:52] <sarnold> argh, the sources.debian.org server seems to be unhappy :(
[02:52] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: there's some notes in the apache docs in the package .. /usr/share/doc/apache2/ something or other, probably, but if not, https://termbin.com/3phw
[02:53] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: unfortunately no notes on how to use certbot, but it does give two commands that might be enough to get it to listen on 443 and handle the site correctly
[02:54] <chonkin2538> vmstat 1 has misaligned columns. Any way to make it prettier?
[02:55] <tpanarch1st> thanks sarnold
[02:57] <sarnold> chonkin2538: vmstat -w 1
[02:58] <sarnold> .. it's not perfect, but it's better, heh
[02:59] <tpanarch1st> sarnold sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl isnt working :) unable to locate package
[03:00] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: I think the package was necessary ten or fifteen years ago, I thought that package was removed ages ago
[03:01] <sarnold> $ apt-file search mod_ssl
[03:01] <sarnold> apache2-bin: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so
[03:01] <sarnold> yeah it's in the standard apache2-bin package in focal, probably before that, too, but focal is easy for me to find :)
[03:05] <tpanarch1st> thanks :) essentially 443 needs to be set to be listened on in a vhosts? file
[03:06] <tpanarch1st> sarnold
[03:07] <sarnold> tpanarch1st: yeah, something like that; I don't know if you have to do that by hand or if the a2enmod and a2ensite commands would do that for you
[04:11] <eelstrebor> looks like the repositories got fixed since i'm now able to upgrade
[04:27] <swift110-mobile> Sup
[05:02] <tpanarch1st> hey is ppa:ondrej/php OK?
[05:03] <tpanarch1st> sarnold *
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> tpanarch1st: the volunteers here, cant advice much on external ppa's, best to stick with vanilla ubuntu sources
[05:34] <jea0p> helo
[05:35] <jea0p> ubuntu can for aarch ?
[06:26] <tpanarch1st> thanka lotuspsychje so I presume Ubuntu has it's own php 8x repos?
[06:26] <tpanarch1st> thanks**
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> tpanarch1st: php comes with ubuntu indeed, you can check their version on the ubuntu releasename , releasenotes
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !jammy
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> for example
[06:29] <tpanarch1st> awesome - thanks :) It turns out I can't upgrade my server  - would you believe - because freepbx is only compatable with php 7.4 - it's outrageous!
[06:29] <tpanarch1st> and, if you install on an Ubuntu Server, they won't give you their firewall either
[08:23] <tomreyn> tpanarch1st: apparently, freepbx 17.0 "BETA" is compatible to PHP 8.2 (Debian installation guide at https://sangomakb.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FP/pages/10682545/How+to+Install+FreePBX+17+on+Debian+12+with+Asterisk+20 ). For ubuntu, there is a professionally maintained (but not supported here) PPA which enables different (and co-installable) PHP versions on current LTS releases at https://deb.sury.org/
[08:49] <danza__> ubuntu will never be popular in africa, its theme features an awfully small contrast
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> danza__: not really a topic for this support channel
[08:51] <danza__> where is the rant channel at?
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | danza__
[08:51] <danza__> cheers
[08:52] <tomreyn> there is no channel for ranting, #ubuntu-discuss is neither.
[08:53] <danza__> oh that's a shame
[09:03] <Diagon> Anyone know that status of Gome in 24.04? Unless they've fixed the regular freezing, I'm going to have to jump to xfce.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> !next | Diagon
[09:04] <Diagon> TY
[09:09] <Eccentric81> Hey all, because GPU passthrough not work for RDNA infinityres rendering
[09:09] <Eccentric81> but there is USB passthrough RDNA3 7000 series AMD cards. have USB4 type C thunderbolt4 over HDMI
[09:10] <Eccentric81> y cant type C S/PDIF passthrough over HDMI and use GPU passthrough as USB passthrough?
[09:10] <Eccentric81> i get that fake nvidia wants to pretend their ultrawideloads of gaming monitors look better with trash specs compared to HDMI TV
[09:11] <Eccentric81> or hackers wanna steal your cores or use your PC resources to hack your own passwords/PC
[09:11] <Eccentric81> and the GPU to crypto or whatever fake not money no equity no landfuelfood whatever pretend video game moneys
[09:11] <Eccentric81> im pretty sure you can use the DNA quality infinityres of AMD from the 70s without the analog CRT
[09:12] <Eccentric81> by typing in the analog CRT words for display driver
[09:12] <Eccentric81> needs correct vesa timings custom res and specifics horizontalphaselinearfixed hook and purity etc
[09:12] <Eccentric81> all those uhh calibration dials from monitor
[09:13] <Eccentric81> sweep and scan uhh whats those others?
[09:13] <Eccentric81> thunderbolt 3/4 use the free open type C spec from google released years ago reverse charge or monitor over type C
[09:14] <Eccentric81> mac pretended they only ones had it, but no they just only ones to plug it in
[09:14] <Eccentric81> anybody know what i might need? like you can custom makeopt flags compile emerge gentoo stage 3 tarball
[09:14] <Eccentric81> whatever i concatenated my GPU display driver custom config.ini file into there too
[09:15] <Eccentric81> and put a dozen copies of it in docs folder and maybe desktop or home
[09:15] <Eccentric81> 2 dozen in all custom compiled pulled from real repos in fake nvidia fake intel OS that has links to the real builds
[09:15] <Eccentric81> of fedora like uhh nobara i think it was fake steamdeck OS?
[09:15] <Eccentric81> i cant get the real one here or the real windows
[09:16] <Eccentric81> im in australia no native android support as advertised in windows 10 and im in 11
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Eccentric81: please dont spam the channel with endless text, just ask your question and wait for volunteers to help you
[09:16] <Eccentric81> hmm okay i'll just link my config file and see what you guys can do. the readme files me swearing alot sorry but not sorry im angry
[09:17] <Eccentric81> https://pixeldrain.com/u/hzkPdb1e
[09:19] <Eccentric81> an alt link https://workupload.com/file/WSrS5U6TpE6
[09:20] <tomreyn> Eccentric81: can you sum up your ubuntu support question in a single line?
[09:21] <tomreyn> "Uncompressed size: 10.3 GB (Ratio: 6355.62x)" - this is a potential zip bomb.
[10:16] <osse> I want to install a .deb package that originally was made for Debian. There are packages for bookwork, testing and unstable. Is it reasonable to install one of these in my Ubuntu 23.10? If so, which one?
[10:24] <Eccentric81> unstable is often a word for frequent updates like canary in edge/chrome since they're the same browser.
[10:25] <Eccentric81> think of it as nightly builds on a group developer project
[10:25] <Eccentric81> so its often the best CHOICE but may have new functions yet theres a risk it could bug or errors
[10:25] <Eccentric81> or not support functions on older devices
[10:26] <Eccentric81> many stable linux things dont get updated, if its not broke dont fix it
[10:26] <Eccentric81> you just compile with more flags makeopts and such
[10:26] <Eccentric81> but the new functions should and COULD be millions faster instructions and code execution
[10:27] <Eccentric81> and more hardware supported so its kinda the better post 90's 2000 parallel computing multicore code
[10:27] <Eccentric81> so dont be afraid of unstable, and to be safe dont go for hardened or 'multi'
[10:27] <Eccentric81> stick with amd64
[10:33] <Eccentric81> its particularly difficult to compile or use any linux code or update/add to it
[10:34] <Eccentric81> because fake companies like apple will sorta rip it off or pretend they invented it and compile their own somethings
[10:34] <Eccentric81> its why they went BSD and had mount gentoo on the old was it leopard or X OS?
[10:34] <oerheks> hi Eccentric81
[10:34] <Eccentric81> they didnt even hide it
[10:37] <Eccentric81> i rarely use linux as i have a hard time when emerging or compile
[10:37] <Eccentric81> my settings go away when i reboot
[10:37] <Eccentric81> and some fag thinks they invented new settings or something
[10:38] <oerheks> This is ubuntu support, do you have a support related question?
[10:38] <Eccentric81> i thought its an issue with installs like uhh its security or policy to wipe
[10:38] <Eccentric81> yeah, why is the ubuntu in WSL only from the windows app store
[10:38] <Eccentric81> for windows and it seems less good somehow?
[10:39] <Eccentric81> could we install ubuntu FIRST then windows in a way that isnt super tedious but like click a few buttons wizard?
[10:39] <oerheks> yes, wsl is only available through their store.
[10:39] <Eccentric81> is there a way for GPU passthrough for the sole user account? use it all? not fake 1trillionth?
[10:40] <oerheks> .. are you here just to rant?
[10:40] <Eccentric81> since USB passthrough is a thing. and USB 4 /thunderbolt anything is display over USB
[10:40] <Eccentric81> my rdna 3 has USB 4 on DP/HDMI out
[10:40] <oerheks> !wsl
[10:40] <Eccentric81> yes but that and windows arent compiled
[10:41] <Eccentric81> i can tell when i tried compile gentoo or debian its like 130MB/sec becomes 3.6GB/sec
[10:41] <Eccentric81> and 550MB SSD's 3 or 4 becomes 7-10TB/SEC when use samsung disk wizard bench
[10:42] <Eccentric81> though i maybe had 2GB RAPID mode RAMdisk buffer for them to work as advertised as samsung site said
[10:42] <oerheks> ask again in #windows-wsl
[10:42] <Eccentric81> oh theres a channel, like how do i compile the ubuntu for AMD?
[10:43] <oerheks> no need to, the iso is amd compatible,
[10:44] <Eccentric81> yeah but trillions of slow
[10:44] <Eccentric81> its like software faked and NOT compiled or not formatted
[10:44] <Eccentric81> 1bit not 64bit
[10:44] <Eccentric81> actually AMD CPU is like 128bit or 2096bit or higher for CPU/GPU depends on the part
[10:44] <oerheks> i leave you with it.
[10:45] <Eccentric81> because even HDR lighting often uses for GPU in game graphics 128bit dynamic lighting
[10:45] <Eccentric81> the hardware supposed to do it, not fake it software requires passthrough
[10:45] <Eccentric81> want the BRTFS whatever or EXT4 and have like DD -BS=8M or something higher maybe
[10:46] <Eccentric81> i think whatever CPU cache is, maybe that what it does
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> Eccentric81: you can stop trolling now, leave the channel free for real ubuntu questions
[10:50] <Eccentric81> why would i troll? try my GPU config.ini file out for proof of concept
[10:51] <Eccentric81> even works on android with SPECIFIC qualcomm or adreno/RDNA hardware with dolbyvision displays
[10:51] <Eccentric81> like on dolbyvision website means its real AMD
[10:51] <Eccentric81> i've an LG V60 it works with
[10:51] <Eccentric81> android is linux too btw
[10:51] <Eccentric81> samsung phones and some lenovo devices etc maybe works
[10:51] <Eccentric81> if you bought from samsung and your AMD computer from AMD website/resellers on the site
[10:52] <Eccentric81> https://pixeldrain.com/u/hzkPdb1e
[10:52] <Eccentric81> https://workupload.com/file/WSrS5U6TpE6
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Eccentric81
[10:52] <Eccentric81> just copy the config file to docs folder
[10:52] <Eccentric81> i use a dozen and i put a dozen in video folder too
[10:53] <oerheks> nothing you say is ubuntu support related.
[10:53] <Eccentric81> because fake nvidia fake intel and windows is mostly 16bit
[10:53] <Eccentric81> what i meant is UBUNTU isnt compiled correctly and the ms app store one was lousy
[10:53] <Eccentric81> your SSD even default 550MB/sec how long does a liveCD take to load?
[10:53] <Eccentric81> go on, guess.. even a DVD? the whole disc? in seconds
[10:54] <Eccentric81> do the math.. then figure out what i mean by NOT COMPILED
[10:54] <Eccentric81> not using hardware and FAKE
[10:54] <Eccentric81> to sell fake hardware
[10:54] <Eccentric81> should be trillions faster.. the .xml renaming of config.ini is just HTML not fit 4 letters in old DOS 16bit
[10:54] <oerheks> !fud
[10:54] <Eccentric81> rename to xml and keep open in like edge browser tabs config file works better
[10:55] <oerheks> move it to an other network, Eccentric81
[10:55] <Eccentric81> oh how to computer ? wheres channel i can teach you all how to use one?
[10:55] <Eccentric81> and what true audio analog CRT RNA DNA video audio multimedia passthrough looks like?
[10:56] <Eccentric81> 1:1 analog faster than reality negative latency infinityfabric/cached hardware freely syncing with ANY device in the universe
[10:56] <Eccentric81> any and all ryzen/radeon combos
[10:56] <Eccentric81> and you dont know what FASTER THAN REALITY MEANS
[10:56] <Eccentric81> how you think i can tell its not compiled
[10:56] <oerheks> stop this monologue, thanks.
[10:56] <Eccentric81> what channel should i join to point at a TV!
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:05] <volkswagner> Greetings!
[13:07] <volkswagner> I'm struggling trying to fix ethernet on a system that's been running 22.04 server for over a year
[13:07] <hwpplayer1> Hi there ! what was the channel name of Canonical Admin Team ?
[13:08] <pragmaticenigma> hwpplayer1, There isn't one, All IRC channels related to Ubuntu are Community operated
[13:08] <volkswagner> From my notes, I originally installed 20.04 and updated to 22.04 because the drivers for one of the NICs (I225-V) were not included.
[13:09] <hwpplayer1> pragmaticenigma: #canonical-sysadmin it is Thanks
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> hwpplayer1, That's not what you are looking for... but have fun anyways
[13:09] <volkswagner> Yesterday I got disconnected from one of the VMs (windows 10 via RDP) which led me to discover both ethernet ports stopped working
[13:09] <hwpplayer1> I found it That was the right place
[13:09] <hwpplayer1> Thanks
[13:09] <hwpplayer1> pragmaticenigma: ^
[13:10] <volkswagner> Here's a paste of some interesting syslog and other info https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6gXM2D6QsG/
[13:10] <volkswagner> It seems odd that both NICS start as named eth0
[13:11] <preach> define fix, and your actual iussue
[13:11] <preach> issue*
[13:11] <preach> those nics are buggy af in general too
[13:11] <volkswagner> the symptom occurred shortly after fwupdmgr ran (which seemed to have ran the previous day without issue)
[13:12] <preach> what symptom
[13:12] <pragmaticenigma> volkswagner, First step, reboot the server
[13:12] <volkswagner> symptom = driver is not loaded
[13:13] <preach> of course they both start as eth0 because of the renaming process... e.g. first nic is detected and always by default assigned eth0 if available (else eth1 etc.), but because udev renamed it, the next nic that is detected now sees eth0 is available again and uses it (and then udev renames it too)
[13:13] <volkswagner> so no network connectivity, also the error in my pastbin was repeating infinately
[13:14] <volkswagner> Thanks preach that makes sense on the renaming
[13:14] <preach> >Detected Hardware Unit Hang
[13:14] <preach> bad hardware, like I said they are buggy
[13:14] <preach> it's a crapshoot whether you get one that actually works or not
[13:14] <pragmaticenigma> volkswagner, It's not sarcasm... have you rebooted the machine after the fwupdate ran? As it appears your issue occured after completed.
[13:15] <volkswagner> I've rebooted several time, moved the server to a bench (so power was disconnected for a few min) issue persists
[13:15] <volkswagner> root@kvmMini:~# lsmod | grep e1000e
[13:15] <volkswagner> e1000e                299008  0
[13:15] <preach> volkswagner: that plus considering both nics stopped working at the same time, should lead you to conclude that this is a hardware issue
[13:15] <pragmaticenigma> volkswagner, Pull one of the cards?
[13:16] <volkswagner> I will boot a live CD to double check the hardware,thanks!
[13:16] <preach> also consider that live CD driver versions/kernels may be different and could behave differently
[13:17] <preach> so even if it works in one doesn't necessarily mean there is NO hardware issue
[13:17] <preach> maybe one driver just has a different workaround
[13:19] <volkswagner> Funny thing is I've had way less issues with Realtek... I was originally so excited to get this PC with all Intel NICs GIGABYTE BRIX PRO GB-BSi5-1135G7-BWUS
[13:21] <volkswagner> I tried compiling Intel drivers, but was full of errors, seemed like bad coding on Intel's part.
[13:23] <ioria> reading might be a 'disabling TCP checksum offloading' problem
[13:25] <volkswagner> both NICs work via LiveCD running Mint (kernel  5.15.0-56)
[13:25] <volkswagner> Let me see if booting previous kernel helps
[13:26] <ioria> a bit outdated
[13:26] <respawn> you can use newer kernel
[13:27] <respawn> for newer hardware
[13:31] <volkswagner> booting older kernel brings both NICs back
[13:32] <volkswagner> oddly though it seems e1000e is not being used:
[13:32] <volkswagner> root@kvmMini:~# lsmod | grep e1000e
[13:32] <volkswagner> e1000e                299008  0
[13:34] <volkswagner> here's the output of  lshw -C net   > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5fBxTFfGHh/
[13:34] <volkswagner> I thought the result from lsmod having a zero at the end means no devices are using that driver... I'm confused.
[13:35] <volkswagner> Should I post possible bug in kernel linux-headers-5.15.0-100
[13:36] <jeremy31> volkswagner: Looks like one port uses e1000e and the other uses igc
[13:37] <volkswagner> yes the 2.5G Nic (I225) uses icg, but I was expecting different output from lsmod | grep e1000e to indicate a device is using that driver
[13:38] <volkswagner> I was saying driver is not loaded from the result of that command, but I seem to be wrong since it's working, and lshw shows it's using e1000e
[13:39] <jeremy31> volkswagner: The 0 means there are no modules dependant on that driver
[13:39] <volkswagner> ah, thanks jeremy31, so if it's not being used the values returned would be empty?
[13:40] <volkswagner> or nothing returned?
[13:40] <jeremy31> volkswagner: I can be in use even with the 0
[13:42] <jeremy31> volkswagner: Unless you have a module listed in /etc/modules or are manually doing a sudo modprobe, every module in lsmod results are there for a reason
[13:50] <volkswagner> What's the best way to automatically reboot to an older kernel? Should I just remove the newest kernel and reboot?
[13:51] <volkswagner> or should I change grub config?
[13:51] <jeremy31> volkswagner: Use the advanced options choice in the grub menu at boot
[13:52] <volkswagner> It's headless so it needs to be automatic
[13:52] <volkswagner> or will that be persistent?
[13:52] <jeremy31> volkswagner: You can't remove a kernel that is being used as far as I know
[13:52] <ioria> there is grub-reboot, but can be complicated to set
[13:52] <volkswagner> I'm booted into the older one already
[13:53] <jeremy31> volkswagner: remove the problem one
[13:54] <volkswagner> cool will do, thanks jeremy31
[13:54] <volkswagner> Should I file a bug report on kernel 5.15.0-100?
[13:56] <younder> You can make ubuntu 22.04 run the 6.5 kernel
[13:56] <younder> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:57] <younder> Seems better than to be  suck with  a old kernel
[13:58] <younder> stuck
[14:01] <jeremy31> younder: Will that do it or does it need to install linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[14:02] <volkswagner> dist-upgrade only brings me to 5.15.0-100
[14:02] <ioria> i think he is on 20.04 focal
[14:02] <volkswagner> let me check full upgrade and ee
[14:02] <volkswagner> i'm on 22.04 upgraded from 20.04
[14:03] <ioria> so, you picked up the wrong kernel
[14:03] <ioria> or autoremove at end did not work
[14:04] <jeremy31> volkswagner: Server install?
[14:04] <volkswagner> I'm not sure what you mean ioria. I just tried to see if there was something newer than 5.15.0-100 using dist-upgrade and the result was the same 5.15.0-100
[14:05] <ioria> ah, ok you don't have HWE
[14:06] <ioria> volkswagner, you can install it, it will pull 6.5
[14:06] <volkswagner> yes it's server install
[14:06] <jeremy31> Is this Ubuntu server or Mint?
[14:06] <volkswagner> server, mint live cd was just a test to verify hardware was fucntional
[14:06] <ioria> volkswagner, you can simulate the install with : apt -s install linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[14:07] <jeremy31> volkswagner: Server wouldn't have linux-generic-hwe-22.04 installed by default
[14:08] <ioria> volkswagner, it could solve your problem, but also not
[14:09] <volkswagner> Thanks ioria, I'm considering moving to XCP-ng so maybe I'll just use the older kernel for now
[14:09] <ioria> ok
[14:14] <ioria> that's curious, 'cause default 20.04 is 5.4 not 5.15, so you already had hwe
[14:16] <volkswagner> ioria doesn't upgrading to 22.04 also update the kernel
[14:16] <ioria> sure
[14:16] <volkswagner> I only started with 20.04 to get the install to complete then upgraded to 22.04 over a year ago
[14:17] <ioria> ok
[14:18] <ioria> i'd investigate this line : Detected Hardware Unit Hang
[14:48] <doolittle> ?
[14:49] <doolittle> anyone?
[14:58] <nsh> what's the advised current way to change the binding for the printscreen keyboard key in ubuntu with unity desktop (wayland if that's material)?
[14:58] <nsh> web suggestions not immediately helpful
[15:01] <nsh> i prefer flameshot to be default but currently have to trigger it in a very roundabout way
[15:29] <tomreyn> nsh: i don't think the Unity desktop supports Wayland (yet). See the FAQ at https://unityd.org/
[15:38] <nsh> the right answer was to disable the interactive screenshot default handler in settings->keyboard->view and customise shortcuts->screenshots then add again as a custom screenshot
[15:39] <nsh> in fact didn't need to do the second step as flameshot had already made the custom shortcut was just being overridden by the default shortcut
[15:42] <nsh> there's still a needless step but i think that's an issue in flameshot itself
[16:19] <mkou> any good calendar that still has regular updates and patches?, apart from google and gnome
[16:19] <ikonia> what happened to the thunderbird calendar ?
[16:19] <ikonia> didn't the app get merged into a plugin for thudnerbird rather than a stand alone app
[16:29] <faruk> test
[16:30] <faruk> hi
[16:30] <faruk> ?
[16:30] <jeremy31> faruk: Mint support issue?
[16:30] <faruk> no. I search IRC
[16:33] <faruk> how can I find crowded servers?
[16:33] <mybalzitch> discord
[16:33] <jeremy31> netsplit.de
[16:36] <faruk> thx
[16:59] <toddc> Virtual AZLOCO/PLUG Linux Workshop Sat, March 16, 10am Big Blue Button, https://bbb.azloco.net
[17:03] <oerheks> toddc, must have been fun?
[17:13] <toddc> opps wrong channel for our loco soory but anyone is welcome
[17:52] <Quark> Is someone able to tell me why on this user-data file (cloud-init), the "write_files" isn't creating the files? https://dpaste.com/9A9UW3ZAZ
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia, Yes, The "lightning" extension for Thunderbird was merged into Thunderbird
[18:14] <rfm> Quark, I think the write_files needs to be under a user-data: so it runs in the installed system at first boot
[18:14] <Quark> rfm: I think that's a bingo! Trying it now, thanks!
[18:21] <Quark> rfm: That was it! Thanks!
[18:23] <rfm> Quark, great! (I *was * just guessing, I've only done this with cloud images, not an install)
[18:25] <Quark> I am unpacking the ISO, and adding a user-data to a "nocloud" directory, and rebuilding it back, so I can use it for auto-installs. It works great now!
[18:25] <Quark> All that's left is to finish adding a few things to that user-data file.
[20:00] <joshp> good afternoon guys, my mouse cursor keeps jumping around on linuxlite, any help will be greatly appreciated
[20:00] <rbox> what is linuxlite
[20:01] <joshp> It is based on ubuntu
[20:01] <joshp> kind of like linux mint
[20:01] <rbox> "based on ubuntu" is not ubuntu
[20:01] <joshp> but uses Ubuntu repo
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> joshp, for help with linuxlite, please take a look at their support page and choose your preferred way of obtaining support: https://www.linuxliteos.com/support.html
[20:02] <joshp> I had the same issue on ubuntu, I forgot what I did
[20:02] <joshp>  do they have a channel in rc?
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> joshp, I suggest you visit the link I provided... it has all the methods of their official support
[20:06] <joshp> Thanks I used to be a big fan of Ubuntu and I still am..but it seems its popularity has been decreased.. do you know when is the next release?
[20:07] <rbox> in april
[20:07] <rbox> like it is ever yyear
[20:08] <joshp> do you think that Ubuntu has a chance to reclaim its place among the best linux distros?
[20:08] <rbox> reclaim?
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> "best" is subjective... so what's "best" is entirely what you think it is
[20:09] <pragmaticenigma> I run a distribution based on what I need to do... I honestly don't care what it calls itself or its popularity. I use what I think is the best tool for the job I want to do.
[20:23] <joshp> I agree.. everything is a matter of choice based on own personal perception.. no one should settle to mental slavery based on emotions or selective social actions
[20:27] <joshp> or widespread fuzz but from a technical standpoint, it doesn't hurt to be somewhat flexible
[20:31] <oerheks> linuxlite has its own specific issues.
[22:06] <joshp> dow
[22:14] <pragmaticenigma> 5
[22:54] <loswedseded> why can't I copy a 12 GiB mac /pkg installer to an usb stick?
[22:55] <EriC^^> loswedseded: it might be fat32 (the filesystem) and that has a 4gb file limit
[22:55] <loswedseded> it says max copy data is 4 GiB, but I have movies lager then that
[22:55] <loswedseded> oh thans
[22:55] <loswedseded> EriC^^, does ma support ext4?
[22:55] <loswedseded> mac
[22:56] <EriC^^> no idea, but exfat supports >4gb files and nowadays some ext hdd etc come formatted as it from the manufacturer
[22:57] <bprompt> loswedseded: that is, the usb-stick may be in fat32 filesystem, macOSX can be in any, it won't matter, the bottleneck would be on the usb-stick if that's the case
[22:58] <JanC> yeah, SD cards also come with exfat usually, so I'm pretty sure macOS supports it?
[22:59] <bprompt> by default, yes, for new usb-sticks in the last 10 years or so, yes, however it could have been reformatted, assuming is not new
[23:00] <bprompt> loswedseded: so simply reformat the usb-stick to extFat and retry to copy the file
[23:00] <JanC> remember that reformatting to exfat will delete all data on the USB stick
[23:00] <JanC> so make sure there is nothing on it that you don't have a copy of
[23:01] <JanC> also, might have to install 'exfatprogs'
[23:01] <JanC> to be able to format as it
[23:02] <loswedseded> why does my computer begin transferring 500 MiB per second and then slows down to 5 MiB ps?
[23:07] <bprompt> loswedseded: is it a bunch of "tiny files" or just big files?   mind you that copying/moving tiny files takes much longer than one big file, so in essence if you had 50,000 small files, it can take about 20 times longer than if  you zip them all in one big .zip and move them afterwards
[23:08] <bprompt> loswedseded: keep in mind that transfer speed is bottlenecked to usb-port type and usb-stick type, an usb 3.2 port is very fast, however if you plug in a usb 1.1 usb-drive, it'll run like molasses, because its bottleneck is the stick at 1.1 type, which is really slow
[23:09] <JanC> at first it will be filling caches so it will be fast, but then it will block once caches are full as it has to wait for hardware that is slower than memory...
[23:10] <bprompt> yeah, can also be cache, misleading you
[23:11] <JanC> where "cache" can mean both buffering in main system RAM and possibly caches in the disk you are using
[23:13] <JanC> and when you use a network filesystem there is usually also caching/buffering on both sides in the network too (and possibly in between)
[23:24] <loswedseded> how come gparted cannot format to exfat?
[23:25] <oerheks> it can, choose ' other'
[23:26] <oerheks> * in disks
 also, might have to install 'exfatprogs'
[23:27] <loswedseded> oerheks, I don't see those icons / menus
[23:27] <JanC> see: https://gparted.org/features.php
[23:28] <JanC> if you can't format as exfat, it's probably because you don't have 'exfatprogs' installed (and you might have to restart GParted after installing that)
[23:28] <oerheks> mkfs.exfat
[23:29] <oerheks> !info exfat-utils
[23:30] <oerheks> oh exfat progs indeed
[23:30] <JanC> no, not exfat-utils, that is old & deprecated, you should install 'exfatprogs'
[23:30] <oerheks> correct
[23:36] <loswedseded> help the noob: I downloaded the zip file from https://github.com/exfatprogs/exfatprogs and now im gonna follow the build steps, is this correct?
[23:37] <JanC> what?
[23:37] <JanC> just install them with apt?
[23:37] <oerheks> wrong step
[23:37] <loswedseded> please write the command
[23:38] <oerheks> indeed, with apt.
[23:38] <oerheks> why? copy and paste the name?
[23:38] <loswedseded> what do I have to copy?
[23:39] <oerheks> sudo apt install
[23:39] <JanC> click: apt://exfatprogs
[23:39] <JanC> :)
[23:39] <oerheks> +1
[23:40] <JanC> (not sure it will actually work... otherwise use apt command line or whatever GUI you use for software installing)
[23:42] <loswedseded> thank you, can I then install all projects hosted on github like this?
[23:43] <joshp> hello guys, how great is ubuntu fof web servers?
[23:43] <Ximo> great, just great
[23:43] <rbox> joshp: about the same as any dist
[23:50] <joshp> I remember using Ubuntu 23.10 and facing some issues with  freezing and touchpad, would like to go back but I dont know wether there have been some changes made  in regards to those issues... any insight?
[23:51] <rbox> if only there was a live image one could boot to see if it worked well
[23:51] <rbox> maybe one day...
[23:52] <joshp> are you referring to what I just mentioned?
[23:53] <oerheks> 'would like to go back' > reinstall 22.04
[23:53] <joshp> what's holding you?
[23:54] <oerheks> me?
[23:54] <oerheks> you asked.
[23:54] <joshp> LOL! Sure.. so when is the next version due again?
[23:54] <oerheks> soon, 24.04 ...
[23:54] <oerheks> !yymm
[23:54] <rbox> april
[23:55] <rbox> the same answer it was a few hours ago
[23:55] <rbox> the last time you asked
[23:55] <joshp> Getting old, memory issues
[23:55] <rbox> its been april for like over 15 years
[23:57] <JanC> well, it was in June for 6.06 LTS
[23:57] <joshp> So i am crossing fingers tight, it's only a month
[23:57] <JanC> but all other LTS after that were in April
[23:58] <JanC> late April (usually around the 20th IIRC)