| joshp | hey guys, it seems that Debian supercedes Ubuntu in every possible area, is Ubuntu making a comeback? | 01:00 |
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| rbox | go troll somewhere else | 01:01 |
| joshp | Did I say something wrong? I am till a big fan of ubuntu | 01:02 |
| andre_ | What is the most popular linux distro | 01:03 |
| rbox | what does popular even mean | 01:05 |
| andre_ | i meant | 01:05 |
| andre_ | what distro have the most users | 01:05 |
| rbox | theres no way to know | 01:05 |
| rbox | does it matter? | 01:05 |
| andre_ | Do people think of ubuntu when they first thinx of linux | 01:05 |
| joshp | Used to be Ubuntu...till I try Debian but that's me. But it is also worth mentioning that based on some reviews Ubuntu has fallen below | 01:06 |
| andre_ | is debian beginner friendly | 01:06 |
| joshp | The one that works and at the same time pleases the eyes as far as desktop is concerned | 01:07 |
| joshp | Bugs free, stable, pleasant | 01:07 |
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| asher | $ df -h | 04:38 |
| asher | df: /run/user/1000/doc: Operation not permitted | 04:38 |
| asher | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 04:38 |
| asher | udev 16G 0 16G 0% /dev | 04:38 |
| asher | tmpfs 3.2G 1.4M 3.2G 1% /run | 04:38 |
| asher | tmpfs 16G 0 16G 0% /dev/shm | 04:38 |
| asher | tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock | 04:38 |
| asher | tmpfs 3.2G 56K 3.2G 1% /run/user/1000 | 04:38 |
| asher | does someone have some ideas what to do if my / dir is out of space? | 04:38 |
| asher | it says i gave it 24 gig. isnt that enough... how do i see what dirs is causing the problem? | 04:38 |
| Bashing-om | !info ncdu | asher | 04:39 |
| ubottu | asher: ncdu (1.18-0.2, mantic): ncurses disk usage viewer. In component universe, is optional. Built by ncdu. Size 50 kB / 113 kB | 04:39 |
| asher | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 04:40 |
| asher | what i wanted to do was allocate more space from /home over to / however the drive is in use. | 04:42 |
| asher | so there isn't a way to do this? unless its all command line? | 04:42 |
| Bashing-om | asher: If you need bit of head room immediately -for operations- one can remove old boot files -> ' sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=100M ; sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2weeks '. | 04:44 |
| asher | so your saying config-5.10.0-23-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-23-amd64 System.map-5.10.0-25-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 | 04:45 |
| asher | config-5.10.0-25-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-25-amd64 System.map-5.10.0-9-amd64 | 04:45 |
| asher | config-5.10.0-9-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-9-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-23-amd64 | 04:45 |
| asher | grub System.map-5.10.0-23-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-25-amd64 | 04:45 |
| asher | however those are all small? | 04:45 |
| Bashing-om | asher: can not operate on a partition that is mounted -in use - One works from a live environment (LiveUSB). | 04:45 |
| asher | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64_5.10.191-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 04:47 |
| asher | cannot copy extracted data for './usr/share/doc/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz' to '/usr/share/doc/linux | 04:47 |
| asher | -headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz.dpkg-new': failed to write (No space left on device) | 04:47 |
| asher | can i just umount /home? | 04:47 |
| asher | from a liveusb or something? maybe thats best? i have a 1TB drive however the installer didn't detect when did the first install. | 04:48 |
| Bashing-om | asher: UNmounting home will not free up disk space - all at this point you can do is see what is taking up space and delete what is no longer needed. | 04:49 |
| asher | https://us04web.zoom.us/j/72738790980?pwd=Ru3zPEgMzq4YU0sN9sZ0okbTcM0ExD.1 | 04:50 |
| asher | can i show you on zoom really quick...? :) | 04:50 |
| Bashing-om | asher: I do not use those ytpes of tools - // what you can do is pastebin the output of du -> ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n '. | 04:53 |
| asher | ;). | 04:54 |
| asher | 4368./grub/locale | 04:54 |
| asher | 2344./grub/fonts | 04:54 |
| asher | 2536./grub/i386-pc | 04:54 |
| asher | 11608./grub | 04:54 |
| asher | 157812. | 04:54 |
| asher | all very small | 04:54 |
| asher | 0bin | 04:55 |
| asher | 0dev | 04:55 |
| asher | 0initrd.img | 04:55 |
| asher | 0initrd.img.old | 04:55 |
| asher | 0lib | 04:55 |
| asher | 0lib32 | 04:55 |
| asher | 0lib64 | 04:55 |
| asher | 0libx32 | 04:55 |
| asher | 0proc | 04:55 |
| asher | 0sbin | 04:55 |
| asher | 0sys | 04:55 |
| asher | 0vmlinuz | 04:55 |
| asher | 0vmlinuz.old | 04:56 |
| asher | 4mnt | 04:56 |
| asher | 4srv | 04:56 |
| asher | 16lost+found | 04:56 |
| asher | 100tmp | 04:56 |
| asher | 1376run | 04:56 |
| asher | 10700etc | 04:56 |
| asher | 18792root | 04:56 |
| asher | 157812boot | 04:56 |
| asher | 1162812opt | 04:56 |
| asher | 1359028var | 04:56 |
| Disconsented | !ops flood | 04:56 |
| asher | 7744976usr | 04:56 |
| asher | 13771480media | 04:56 |
| asher | 25638340home | 04:56 |
| asher | i'm using an INDIAN OS called BOSS its kinda a "newish' OS i guess based on DEBIAN. | 04:58 |
| asher | i have all these -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 8 15:36 gentoo | 05:00 |
| asher | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 15 15:46 gentoo1 | 05:00 |
| asher | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 15 16:08 gentoo2 | 05:00 |
| asher | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2738262016 Mar 15 16:14 gentoo3 | 05:00 |
| Bashing-om | !Paste asher | 05:00 |
| asher | ;) SORRY! | 05:00 |
| Bashing-om | !Pastebin asher | 05:01 |
| Bashing-om | !pastebin asher | 05:01 |
| Unit193 | Bashing-om: I think you can stop now. | 05:01 |
| asher | dang i had GIGABYTES of GENTOO problems? it seems better now! | 05:01 |
| Bashing-om | asher: as and example of a spare system's du: https://termbin.com/wdks // from terminal commands: ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n | nc termbin.com 9999 '. | 05:04 |
| Bashing-om | Unit193: Trying to -- tired and mind not co-operting :) | 05:05 |
| asher | it seems to be working now! i cleaned out my /media directory i had a lot of bad mounts when they should have been to someplace else using "dd" | 05:06 |
| Bashing-om | asher: \o/ Good deal | 05:07 |
| kenyip | interesting, this is my first time to join this chat group | 06:51 |
| kenyip | what does this chat group serve for? | 06:51 |
| Bashing-om | kentucky44448: This channel supports the Ubuntu operating system. | 06:53 |
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| ussr | kon | 09:10 |
| ussr | nitiha | 09:10 |
| ussr | hallo | 09:10 |
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| hwpplayer1 | hi Ubuntu People ! | 10:05 |
| whiskey76 | o/ | 10:08 |
| mandem0110 | o/ | 10:08 |
| lasermac | Can someone help to fix the repository? See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB | 10:09 |
| xFCFFEFFFFFFFFFF | \o | 10:11 |
| lasermac | Something wrong in the sources.list. How can it be fxed? | 10:16 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: the file should be named .list but it's called .lis | 10:16 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB for more info | 10:17 |
| EriC^^ | sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.lis{,t} | 10:17 |
| EriC^^ | i think this is the main error, error: https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1E34A1828E207901 LEAP archive signing key <sysdev@leap.se>The repository 'https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease' is not signed. | 10:18 |
| EriC^^ | try to maybe remove that repo then add it again | 10:19 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, done your suggestion. Updating system gives this info: https://pastebin.com/ZCDtJJA2 | 10:22 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: still somet problem with the repo, maybe contact the maintainer or remove it if you dont need it (rm the .list file) | 10:25 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, let's remove it. What do I need to key in? | 10:26 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: can you share 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' ? | 10:26 |
| EriC^^ | or "tail -v +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" if you havent pastebined ls yet | 10:28 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, see https://pastebin.com/DBEVJNdP | 10:29 |
| EriC^^ | actually nevermind, from the pastebin the name shows, do "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list.backup" | 10:29 |
| EriC^^ | then "sudo apt update" again | 10:30 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, done. Still something rotten. See https://pastebin.com/ZRJzF61s | 10:34 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: i think it's good now, those are just warnings and stuff | 10:35 |
| EriC^^ | W warning N notice i think | 10:36 |
| EriC^^ | should be able to do sudo apt full-upgrade and get the latest packages installed | 10:37 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, done. But when I update Synaptic this appears. See https://pastebin.com/VKaBZ8Qb | 10:38 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, those are just warnings, but it finishes updating the packages list | 10:39 |
| EriC^^ | the vivaldi repo is using an old method to store the keyring so it warns about it, also it mentions its ignoring the leap repo we renamed | 10:40 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, thank for the help and info. | 10:40 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: no problem | 10:42 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: If the trusted.gpg file is deleted in etc/apt/trusted.gpg will the warnings in synaptic be gone? | 10:44 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: maybe add it using the new way, type "man apt-key" and go to the section on deprecation and follow the steps as it pertains to the ppa | 10:49 |
| EriC^^ | it seems they want the stuff added to ...trusted.gpg.d/reponame.asc instead of trusted.gpg | 10:51 |
| EriC^^ | about the leap warning, i think if you rename it back to .list from .list.backup but comment out the repo line inside it with a "#" at the start of the line should be good, or just delete the file and put in your notes the repo name in case you need it later | 10:53 |
| whiskey76 | I unzipped two mouse pointer folders to ~/.icons but the new pointers only show when hovering over windows. The default, Yaru, shows when the mouse is over the desktop. How to fix this? | 10:53 |
| whiskey76 | Ubuntu Cinnamon 23.10 | 10:53 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: ok, but that is a bit complicated for me | 10:54 |
| lotuspsychje | !themes | whiskey76 start here | 10:54 |
| ubottu | whiskey76 start here: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 10:54 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: try 'sudo apt-get list' and pastebin | 10:58 |
| whiskey76 | Thanks. | 10:59 |
| EriC^^ | sorry | 10:59 |
| EriC^^ | lasermac: sudo apt-key list | 10:59 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: Terminal says: E: Invalid operation list | 11:01 |
| EriC^^ | with apt-key ? i made a typo first type | 11:02 |
| lasermac | Eric^^: I stop for now. Thanks for the help so far. | 11:04 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 11:04 |
| EriC^^ | no problem | 11:04 |
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| marcin__ | hello , where can i downloading vpn via terminal? | 11:52 |
| nick__ | Hello, on my Lenovo l13 yoga g3 on Gnome the Keyboard does not get disabled if I fold the device over in tablet or tent mode however it is sold with Ubuntu. Has anyone an idea ho to fix this? | 11:54 |
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| lotuspsychje | nick__: you could try searching a tweak via dconf-editor | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | marcin__: if you like there's a free vpn snap called riseup-vpn you can test/install | 12:04 |
| infinity0 | what's the correct way to compile an in-tree kernel that was not present in the official config? i thought i did it right but i keep getting "insmod: module format error" | 12:19 |
| infinity0 | specifically i'm using the linux-hwe ubuntu kernel, via linux mint | 12:19 |
| infinity0 | and trying to compile CONFIG_IR_GPIO_CIR=m and CONFIG_IR_GPIO_TX=m, the compile works but i can't load it due to "format error" | 12:20 |
| infinity0 | i'm using the same soucre version as my kernel, 6.5.0-25, but modinfo says 6.5.13 after the compile | 12:20 |
| jeremy31 | infinity0: What part of modinfo says that? | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:44 |
| infinity0 | jeremy31: the vermagic. i've hacked around it now but now there's a different problem, this_module is failing to match | 14:33 |
| infinity0 | i've tried to set CONFG_* values exactly as in the built kernel, values taken from /lib/modules/*/build, but this_module is still different | 14:34 |
| jeremy31 | infinity0: Might need a make clean | 14:34 |
| infinity0 | 0x500 for the built kernel, vs 0x4c0 for my compiled version | 14:34 |
| infinity0 | i tried make clean loads of times | 14:34 |
| jeremy31 | infinity0: For some reason it is pulling .config from the wrong headers | 14:35 |
| jeremy31 | infinity0: or did you copy the .config from 6.5.13? | 14:38 |
| infinity0 | jeremy31: i figured it out, the config is fine, but i had to decompress my kernel into ./vmlinux in the source tree so the build script runs BTF on it | 14:47 |
| infinity0 | apparently this is a new thing and if it fails to run then it affects this_module size | 14:47 |
| infinity0 | if you don't do that it will warn you BTF didn't run, but build the objects successfully, just with an incompatible module_size | 14:48 |
| infinity0 | this_module size rather | 14:48 |
| infinity0 | insmod now works, yay | 14:49 |
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| enyc | Hrrm; Am I correct in saying the Ubuntu 22.04 lts installer at least when asked to use a 'whole hard disk' / blank drive, not 'custom partioning' Always uses GPT and mkaes system dual BIOS+UEFI bootable *regardless* of installer booted in Bios or UEFI mode in first-place ... ?? | 22:23 |
| Bashing-om | enyc: Install mode is dependent on what mode the installer is booted in. | 22:26 |
| jeremy31 | Bashing-om: I think the erase disk and install Ubuntu may use GPT by default | 22:27 |
| oerheks | +1 if there is UEFI availabel | 22:27 |
| enyc | oerheks: friend has annoying HP machine where nightmare to update bios (need a win8 temporary install ;/ to do that) where uefi-booting or at least disabling-secure-boot seems to be buggy | 22:28 |
| Bashing-om | jeremy31: oerheks: Good to keep in mind :P | 22:28 |
| jeremy31 | oerheks: It might use GPT on machines without UEFI support | 22:28 |
| JanC | shouldn't really matter, right? | 22:30 |
| jeremy31 | JanC: Some pre UEFI machines won't recognize any OS installed on GPT | 22:30 |
| bprompt | enyc: is the HD formatted as GPT or MBR-DOS? if the HD is GPT, I can see the installer going to UEFI automatically | 22:30 |
| JanC | BIOS can boot from GPT partitioned disks if done correctly | 22:30 |
| JanC | as in: have a fake MBR | 22:31 |
| oerheks | enyc, linux gives fwupdtes | 22:31 |
| oerheks | yay | 22:31 |
| enyc | oerheks: yes fwupd in newer systems | 22:31 |
| jeremy31 | JanC: Not even the bios-grub partition will work on some | 22:31 |
| enyc | bprompt: neither, if just blank e.g. new ssd plugged in | 22:31 |
| JanC | well, then they never were BIOS boot compatible to begin with... | 22:32 |
| enyc | jeremy31: there are some machines where bios insists upon an apparently ''bootable partition marked active'' in the MBR which conflicts with GPT container expectations | 22:32 |
| bprompt | enyc: well, hmm, the HD must have a partition table format, it will be either GPT or MBR-DOS, even if no partition is in it | 22:32 |
| bprompt | enyc: but for a new SSD, I'd expect it to be GPT by default though | 22:33 |
| enyc | bprompt: no, it can literally have 00 00 00 ... in all sectors; no ''partition table format'' on there at all. | 22:33 |
| bprompt | enyc: I know | 22:33 |
| bprompt | enyc: doesn't mean that was the case though | 22:34 |
| enyc | oerheks: strongly get impression fwupd works notionlaly for much newer bits and pieces | 22:35 |
| bprompt | enyc: either way, hmmm I'd say stick to install one mode explicitly, format the HD first, then run the installer, otherwise the automatic mechanism will do that | 22:35 |
| jeremy31 | enyc: Might be best to move this to #ubuntu-discuss | 22:36 |
| enyc | Hrrm; I was hoping for a clear answer to my suport question but it seems not really known here. | 22:36 |
| JanC | probably best to just try it | 22:37 |
| oerheks | automatic, full disks, is the preferred way | 22:37 |
| JanC | maybe in a VM or so | 22:37 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 22:37 |
| ph88^ | how can i install llvm-11 on ubuntu 23.10 ? | 23:44 |
| oerheks | only available for LTS, 22.04 | 23:45 |
| oerheks | and focal fossa | 23:45 |
| tarzeau | the reverse of FAQ simple sid backport :) | 23:46 |
| oerheks | us a vm to work with that old package? | 23:46 |
| ph88^ | like docker ? | 23:47 |
| oerheks | depends on your project? KVM preferably | 23:47 |
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