[01:00] hey guys, it seems that Debian supercedes Ubuntu in every possible area, is Ubuntu making a comeback? [01:01] go troll somewhere else [01:02] Did I say something wrong? I am till a big fan of ubuntu [01:03] What is the most popular linux distro [01:05] what does popular even mean [01:05] i meant [01:05] what distro have the most users [01:05] theres no way to know [01:05] does it matter? [01:05] Do people think of ubuntu when they first thinx of linux [01:06] Used to be Ubuntu...till I try Debian but that's me. But it is also worth mentioning that based on some reviews Ubuntu has fallen below [01:06] is debian beginner friendly [01:07] The one that works and at the same time pleases the eyes as far as desktop is concerned [01:07] Bugs free, stable, pleasant === tca_ is now known as cupidstunt === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === chris14_ is now known as chris14 [04:38] $ df -h [04:38] df: /run/user/1000/doc: Operation not permitted [04:38] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [04:38] udev 16G 0 16G 0% /dev [04:38] tmpfs 3.2G 1.4M 3.2G 1% /run [04:38] tmpfs 16G 0 16G 0% /dev/shm [04:38] tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock [04:38] tmpfs 3.2G 56K 3.2G 1% /run/user/1000 [04:38] does someone have some ideas what to do if my / dir is out of space? [04:38] it says i gave it 24 gig. isnt that enough... how do i see what dirs is causing the problem? [04:39] !info ncdu | asher [04:39] asher: ncdu (1.18-0.2, mantic): ncurses disk usage viewer. In component universe, is optional. Built by ncdu. Size 50 kB / 113 kB [04:40] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [04:42] what i wanted to do was allocate more space from /home over to / however the drive is in use. [04:42] so there isn't a way to do this? unless its all command line? [04:44] asher: If you need bit of head room immediately -for operations- one can remove old boot files -> ' sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=100M ; sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2weeks '. [04:45] so your saying config-5.10.0-23-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-23-amd64 System.map-5.10.0-25-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 [04:45] config-5.10.0-25-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-25-amd64 System.map-5.10.0-9-amd64 [04:45] config-5.10.0-9-amd64 initrd.img-5.10.0-9-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-23-amd64 [04:45] grub System.map-5.10.0-23-amd64 vmlinuz-5.10.0-25-amd64 [04:45] however those are all small? [04:45] asher: can not operate on a partition that is mounted -in use - One works from a live environment (LiveUSB). [04:47] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64_5.10.191-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): [04:47] cannot copy extracted data for './usr/share/doc/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz' to '/usr/share/doc/linux [04:47] -headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz.dpkg-new': failed to write (No space left on device) [04:47] can i just umount /home? [04:48] from a liveusb or something? maybe thats best? i have a 1TB drive however the installer didn't detect when did the first install. [04:49] asher: UNmounting home will not free up disk space - all at this point you can do is see what is taking up space and delete what is no longer needed. [04:50] https://us04web.zoom.us/j/72738790980?pwd=Ru3zPEgMzq4YU0sN9sZ0okbTcM0ExD.1 [04:50] can i show you on zoom really quick...? :) [04:53] asher: I do not use those ytpes of tools - // what you can do is pastebin the output of du -> ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n '. [04:54] ;). [04:54] 4368 ./grub/locale [04:54] 2344 ./grub/fonts [04:54] 2536 ./grub/i386-pc [04:54] 11608 ./grub [04:54] 157812 . [04:54] all very small [04:55] 0 bin [04:55] 0 dev [04:55] 0 initrd.img [04:55] 0 initrd.img.old [04:55] 0 lib [04:55] 0 lib32 [04:55] 0 lib64 [04:55] 0 libx32 [04:55] 0 proc [04:55] 0 sbin [04:55] 0 sys [04:55] 0 vmlinuz [04:56] 0 vmlinuz.old [04:56] 4 mnt [04:56] 4 srv [04:56] 16 lost+found [04:56] 100 tmp [04:56] 1376 run [04:56] 10700 etc [04:56] 18792 root [04:56] 157812 boot [04:56] 1162812 opt [04:56] 1359028 var [04:56] !ops flood [04:56] 7744976 usr [04:56] 13771480 media [04:56] 25638340 home [04:58] i'm using an INDIAN OS called BOSS its kinda a "newish' OS i guess based on DEBIAN. [05:00] i have all these -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 8 15:36 gentoo [05:00] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 15 15:46 gentoo1 [05:00] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3787866112 Mar 15 16:08 gentoo2 [05:00] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2738262016 Mar 15 16:14 gentoo3 [05:00] !Paste asher [05:00] ;) SORRY! [05:01] !Pastebin asher [05:01] !pastebin asher [05:01] Bashing-om: I think you can stop now. [05:01] dang i had GIGABYTES of GENTOO problems? it seems better now! [05:04] asher: as and example of a spare system's du: https://termbin.com/wdks // from terminal commands: ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n | nc termbin.com 9999 '. [05:05] Unit193: Trying to -- tired and mind not co-operting :) [05:06] it seems to be working now! i cleaned out my /media directory i had a lot of bad mounts when they should have been to someplace else using "dd" [05:07] asher: \o/ Good deal [06:51] interesting, this is my first time to join this chat group [06:51] what does this chat group serve for? [06:53] kentucky44448: This channel supports the Ubuntu operating system. === rzanetti is now known as zanetti [09:10] kon [09:10] nitiha [09:10] hallo === pick is now known as pickanick [10:05] hi Ubuntu People ! [10:08] o/ [10:08] o/ [10:09] Can someone help to fix the repository? See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB [10:11] \o [10:16] Something wrong in the sources.list. How can it be fxed? [10:16] lasermac: the file should be named .list but it's called .lis [10:17] Eric^^: See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB for more info [10:17] sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.lis{,t} [10:18] i think this is the main error, error: https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1E34A1828E207901 LEAP archive signing key The repository 'https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease' is not signed. [10:19] try to maybe remove that repo then add it again [10:22] Eric^^: ok, done your suggestion. Updating system gives this info: https://pastebin.com/ZCDtJJA2 [10:25] lasermac: still somet problem with the repo, maybe contact the maintainer or remove it if you dont need it (rm the .list file) [10:26] Eric^^: ok, let's remove it. What do I need to key in? [10:26] lasermac: can you share 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' ? [10:28] or "tail -v +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" if you havent pastebined ls yet [10:29] Eric^^: ok, see https://pastebin.com/DBEVJNdP [10:29] actually nevermind, from the pastebin the name shows, do "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list.backup" [10:30] then "sudo apt update" again [10:34] Eric^^: ok, done. Still something rotten. See https://pastebin.com/ZRJzF61s [10:35] lasermac: i think it's good now, those are just warnings and stuff [10:36] W warning N notice i think [10:37] should be able to do sudo apt full-upgrade and get the latest packages installed [10:38] Eric^^: ok, done. But when I update Synaptic this appears. See https://pastebin.com/VKaBZ8Qb [10:39] yeah, those are just warnings, but it finishes updating the packages list [10:40] the vivaldi repo is using an old method to store the keyring so it warns about it, also it mentions its ignoring the leap repo we renamed [10:40] Eric^^: ok, thank for the help and info. [10:42] lasermac: no problem [10:44] Eric^^: If the trusted.gpg file is deleted in etc/apt/trusted.gpg will the warnings in synaptic be gone? [10:49] lasermac: maybe add it using the new way, type "man apt-key" and go to the section on deprecation and follow the steps as it pertains to the ppa [10:51] it seems they want the stuff added to ...trusted.gpg.d/reponame.asc instead of trusted.gpg [10:53] about the leap warning, i think if you rename it back to .list from .list.backup but comment out the repo line inside it with a "#" at the start of the line should be good, or just delete the file and put in your notes the repo name in case you need it later [10:53] I unzipped two mouse pointer folders to ~/.icons but the new pointers only show when hovering over windows. The default, Yaru, shows when the mouse is over the desktop. How to fix this? [10:53] Ubuntu Cinnamon 23.10 [10:54] Eric^^: ok, but that is a bit complicated for me [10:54] !themes | whiskey76 start here [10:54] whiskey76 start here: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [10:58] lasermac: try 'sudo apt-get list' and pastebin [10:59] Thanks. [10:59] sorry [10:59] lasermac: sudo apt-key list [11:01] Eric^^: Terminal says: E: Invalid operation list [11:02] with apt-key ? i made a typo first type [11:04] Eric^^: I stop for now. Thanks for the help so far. [11:04] ok [11:04] no problem === TomTom_ is now known as TomTom [11:52] hello , where can i downloading vpn via terminal? [11:54] Hello, on my Lenovo l13 yoga g3 on Gnome the Keyboard does not get disabled if I fold the device over in tablet or tent mode however it is sold with Ubuntu. Has anyone an idea ho to fix this? === tursom494 is now known as tursom49 [12:03] nick__: you could try searching a tweak via dconf-editor [12:04] marcin__: if you like there's a free vpn snap called riseup-vpn you can test/install [12:19] what's the correct way to compile an in-tree kernel that was not present in the official config? i thought i did it right but i keep getting "insmod: module format error" [12:19] specifically i'm using the linux-hwe ubuntu kernel, via linux mint [12:20] and trying to compile CONFIG_IR_GPIO_CIR=m and CONFIG_IR_GPIO_TX=m, the compile works but i can't load it due to "format error" [12:20] i'm using the same soucre version as my kernel, 6.5.0-25, but modinfo says 6.5.13 after the compile [12:21] infinity0: What part of modinfo says that? [13:44] Hi all [14:33] jeremy31: the vermagic. i've hacked around it now but now there's a different problem, this_module is failing to match [14:34] i've tried to set CONFG_* values exactly as in the built kernel, values taken from /lib/modules/*/build, but this_module is still different [14:34] infinity0: Might need a make clean [14:34] 0x500 for the built kernel, vs 0x4c0 for my compiled version [14:34] i tried make clean loads of times [14:35] infinity0: For some reason it is pulling .config from the wrong headers [14:38] infinity0: or did you copy the .config from 6.5.13? [14:47] jeremy31: i figured it out, the config is fine, but i had to decompress my kernel into ./vmlinux in the source tree so the build script runs BTF on it [14:47] apparently this is a new thing and if it fails to run then it affects this_module size [14:48] if you don't do that it will warn you BTF didn't run, but build the objects successfully, just with an incompatible module_size [14:48] this_module size rather [14:49] insmod now works, yay === JanC_ is now known as JanC === tpiekarski1 is now known as tpiekarski === Rahoul4305975448 is now known as Rahoul [19:40] . [19:49] heello === tommy_ is now known as f9 === nshire3 is now known as nshire === pacman is now known as krok === Vercas98 is now known as Vercas9 === tursom492 is now known as tursom49 [22:23] Hrrm; Am I correct in saying the Ubuntu 22.04 lts installer at least when asked to use a 'whole hard disk' / blank drive, not 'custom partioning' Always uses GPT and mkaes system dual BIOS+UEFI bootable *regardless* of installer booted in Bios or UEFI mode in first-place ... ?? [22:26] enyc: Install mode is dependent on what mode the installer is booted in. [22:27] Bashing-om: I think the erase disk and install Ubuntu may use GPT by default [22:27] +1 if there is UEFI availabel [22:28] oerheks: friend has annoying HP machine where nightmare to update bios (need a win8 temporary install ;/ to do that) where uefi-booting or at least disabling-secure-boot seems to be buggy [22:28] jeremy31: oerheks: Good to keep in mind :P [22:28] oerheks: It might use GPT on machines without UEFI support [22:30] shouldn't really matter, right? [22:30] JanC: Some pre UEFI machines won't recognize any OS installed on GPT [22:30] enyc: is the HD formatted as GPT or MBR-DOS? if the HD is GPT, I can see the installer going to UEFI automatically [22:30] BIOS can boot from GPT partitioned disks if done correctly [22:31] as in: have a fake MBR [22:31] enyc, linux gives fwupdtes [22:31] yay [22:31] oerheks: yes fwupd in newer systems [22:31] JanC: Not even the bios-grub partition will work on some [22:31] bprompt: neither, if just blank e.g. new ssd plugged in [22:32] well, then they never were BIOS boot compatible to begin with... [22:32] jeremy31: there are some machines where bios insists upon an apparently ''bootable partition marked active'' in the MBR which conflicts with GPT container expectations [22:32] enyc: well, hmm, the HD must have a partition table format, it will be either GPT or MBR-DOS, even if no partition is in it [22:33] enyc: but for a new SSD, I'd expect it to be GPT by default though [22:33] bprompt: no, it can literally have 00 00 00 ... in all sectors; no ''partition table format'' on there at all. [22:33] enyc: I know [22:34] enyc: doesn't mean that was the case though [22:35] oerheks: strongly get impression fwupd works notionlaly for much newer bits and pieces [22:35] enyc: either way, hmmm I'd say stick to install one mode explicitly, format the HD first, then run the installer, otherwise the automatic mechanism will do that [22:36] enyc: Might be best to move this to #ubuntu-discuss [22:36] Hrrm; I was hoping for a clear answer to my suport question but it seems not really known here. [22:37] probably best to just try it [22:37] automatic, full disks, is the preferred way [22:37] maybe in a VM or so [22:37] have fun! [23:44] how can i install llvm-11 on ubuntu 23.10 ? [23:45] only available for LTS, 22.04 [23:45] and focal fossa [23:46] the reverse of FAQ simple sid backport :) [23:46] us a vm to work with that old package? [23:47] like docker ? [23:47] depends on your project? KVM preferably