[00:19] <daftykins> disaster, the UK acquisition of our co-op supermarkets resulted in all the pretty functional self-serve checkouts having been replaced with disastrous new ones placed so closely together that you have to elbow the next person out the way
[00:21] <penguin42> oh, they're owned by UK co-op?
[00:22] <daftykins> so the rumours go yeah, they weren't before - ours were a totally independant chain where we get 4p back for every £1 we spend
[00:22] <daftykins> share accounts, dividends and everything
[00:23] <penguin42> UK Coop is fairly disfunctional
[00:26] <daftykins> mmm good source of packaged foods etc though
[00:28] <penguin42> hmm, here their stores are relatively small convenience stores, not full supermarkets, and generally expensive at that
[00:28] <daftykins> got a mix here, couple of large ones and then small dotted about
[00:30] <penguin42> they're head quartered here in Manchester, started close to here
[00:30] <daftykins> ooh i had no idea
[00:31] <daftykins> the C.I. bunch are very directionless, so perhaps it's a match made in heaven!
[00:31] <penguin42> CI?
[00:31] <daftykins> channel islands
[00:31] <penguin42> ah
[00:33] <penguin42> daftykins: Is most of the stuff from the UK?
[00:33] <daftykins> yeah, lots of other brands as well of course - but the sandwich and wrap section is all the UK produce
[00:35] <penguin42> the logistics for CI must be quite tricky; mind you, I guess it's probably not much different from bits of Scotland or Wales
[00:35] <daftykins> shelves are very often bare in winter, yip
[00:36] <daftykins> just the norm for us
[00:39] <penguin42> I'm too used to being in walking range of lots of different supermarkets and shops
[00:40] <penguin42> I'm about 5m north of Manchester, and within a mile or two there are all the supermarkets (other than Waitrose)
[00:41] <daftykins> :)
[00:41] <daftykins> Waitrose bought our two largest ones
[00:41] <daftykins> one was a Safeway prior
[00:44] <penguin42> nod
[00:45] <daftykins> wow there are some snaps from back in the day when it was "Besants" Guernsey, pronounced Bess ants
[00:45] <penguin42> daftykins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockport_Pyramid  used to be owned by the the Coop bank (that narrowly avoided going under a few times)
[00:46] <daftykins> :D
[01:02] <penguin42> that will be once I can go out again, hopefully test -ve in the next few days.....
[01:04] <daftykins> oh nooo the plague got you... first time?
[01:07] <penguin42> yep, tested +ve on Wednesday
[01:07] <daftykins> how's it been? the dose i got just made me fatigued, slept a huge amount over a weekend then was back at it
[01:08] <penguin42> I didn't sleep much on Monday/Tuesday night - but thoguht that could be due to being full of paint fumes
[01:08] <penguin42> daftykins: I had a day or two of being 2 or 3c hot; not massive; nothing a couple of paracetamol haven't sorted
[01:08] <penguin42> some catarragh, bit of a cough that's not quite sorted itself yet
[01:09] <daftykins> not bad!
[01:11] <penguin42> the fact it overlapped with me having some teeth out on Wednesday is kind of interesting; whether I've given it to the dentists will be interesting, but currently my best guess is I picked it up in the dentists the week before when I went to ask some stuff about it
[01:13] <daftykins> ah could well be
[01:13] <daftykins> i sometimes enjoy sitting in the reception of my nearest practice client here, but i do also ponder what i'm exposing myself to
[21:36] <penguin42> hmm, the River Test
[22:11] <davef> Greeting from sunny Punta Cana! 
[22:19] <zxmpi> salutations from the suburbs of dublin