[02:20] <ChmEarl> noble-proposed: apt-cache search t64 | grep -P '^lib.*t64' | wc -l -> 665
[02:20] <ChmEarl> there are already 464 t64 libs in noble main
[02:21] <ChmEarl> for a total of 1130, while Debian side has 1700+
[02:22] <ChmEarl> it won't be long for time64 transition in Noble
[02:26] <ChmEarl> Wrong, proposed has 200+ more to add 
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> app centre cant update itself as its running so it seems, prob known bug already?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> https://dpaste.org/gjW6s
[10:02] <ogra_> thats not a bug ... snaps can never update themselves while they are running ... but unlike gnome-software app-center doesnt keep a permanently running daemon around that prevents it from updating at all
[10:03] <ogra_> you should have gotten a desktop notification along with the journal message though, telling you to please close the app center ... if you didnt get that, that would be a bug
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: did not get a notify no
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> just in inside error inside app centre
[10:08] <ogra_> thats a bug then 
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> also closing app centre doesnt update snap store
[10:10] <ogra_> indeed, it would only do that when the next update slot is scheduled ... but you should be able to refresh it manually after closing
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: but the average user should not be need to refresh manualy via apt when gui doesnt ?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> or would a reboot auto refresh?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> no dice on reboot
[11:04] <ogra_> lotuspsychje, autorefresh only happens on a random schedule snapd sets itself 
[11:05] <ogra_> (and definitely not directly after reboot since that would potentially saturate your network immediately)
[11:05] <ogra_> you'd have to wait for the next auto-refresh to kick in 
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: allrighty