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| juliank | o/ | 15:00 |
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| slyon | o/ | 15:00 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 15:00 |
| waveform | \o | 15:00 |
| mkukri | o/ | 15:00 |
| bdrung | \o | 15:00 |
| Skia | o/ | 15:00 |
| liushuyu | o/ | 15:01 |
| upils | \o | 15:01 |
| ginggs | o/ | 15:01 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 15:01 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 15:02 |
| zhsj | o/ | 15:02 |
| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:03:05 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:03 |
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| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:03 |
| adrien | \o | 15:03 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-03-21/43313 | 15:03 |
| pushkarnk | o/ | 15:04 |
| bdrung | waveform, `eval "$(grep "^VERSION_CODENAME=" /etc/os-release)"` can be just changed to `. /etc/os-release` | 15:08 |
| waveform | it could... but it just feels a bit "dirty" to me :) | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | Less dirty than that ^^ | 15:10 |
| juliank | quite tricky that os-release | 15:10 |
| adrien | you could do that in a subshell and echo the appropriate value too | 15:10 |
| juliank | You definitely need a subshell | 15:10 |
| bdrung | waveform, the os-release spec says that it is shell sourceable | 15:10 |
| juliank | i.e. we needed to do +GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`( . /etc/os-release; echo ${NAME:-@DPKG_VENDOR@} ) 2>/dev/null || echo @DPKG_VENDOR@` | 15:11 |
| waveform | sure, but do I want to trawl the spec and make certain it can't clobber any existing vars I've got in the env or do I just want to cherry pick the one I'm interested in? | 15:11 |
| juliank | The shell just aborts entirely if sourcing os-release fails, hence the need for the subshell | 15:12 |
| juliank | i.e. we don't trust it's always readable | 15:12 |
| juliank | users mess up stuff but breaking boot for it would be ugh | 15:13 |
| juliank | "But I want my system to identify itself as Foobar OS 25.564.53"! | 15:13 |
| juliank | Anyway, it's getting late, we should move on :) | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | "users mess up stuff" <- truer words were never said | 15:13 |
| bdrung | but in this case it is an autopkgtest and it would be fine to fail if os-release contains garbage | 15:13 |
| juliank | ack | 15:13 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:13 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:14 |
| juliank | bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/2054343 | 15:14 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2054343 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "arm64 build of gcc-10 10.5.0-3ubuntu1 still broken (CVE-2023-4039 still open)" [Wishlist, Confirmed] | 15:14 | |
| juliank | This is the only bug today! | 15:14 |
| juliank | This needs to be fixed in focal as it is in main | 15:15 |
| juliank | In all other releases it is in universe, so it's up to the ESM team to deliver a fix to esm-app-security | 15:15 |
| Skia | there is one in unknown that may be foundations too: bug 2058227 | 15:15 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2058227 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "Crash during upgrade from Mantic to Noble due to Python 3.12" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2058227 | 15:15 | |
| juliank | Wait am I right in counting, is focal still in standard support? | 15:17 |
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| waveform | yup | 15:17 |
| waveform | focal's still supported | 15:17 |
| * waveform eyes his home server still running focal... | 15:17 | |
| pushkarnk | yeah, have been running JDK compliance tests for focal :D | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | a-x-i is only in main for trusty | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | I imagine the fix is simple though but is that package even useful? it was last updated in Focal | 15:18 |
| juliank | OK so what I did for gcc-10 is add focal task, change jj, mm to wontfix and said that's a Pro thing | 15:20 |
| juliank | Oh but probably it should be split into a FTBFS bug and a security one | 15:20 |
| juliank | Left the bug :) | 15:21 |
| juliank | So what's the conclusion on the apt-xapian-index one? | 15:26 |
| juliank | where does the crash even happen? | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | I think we should add a quirk to stop the service from running during the upgrade. | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | It happens during a dist-upgrade of Kubuntu. | 15:26 |
| juliank | We probably should have a quirk to inhibit all systemd timers and cron jobs | 15:27 |
| juliank | Probably should add a feature to systemd to actually inhibit timers | 15:27 |
| juliank | But that'S 25.04 talk | 15:27 |
| mkukri | cant something like this also happen if an already running service pulls in new stuff dynamically? | 15:28 |
| juliank | sure | 15:28 |
| juliank | Possibly atomic A/B upgrades are also a topic for 25.04 | 15:29 |
| juliank | But need cooperating file system with snapshots | 15:29 |
| juliank | And figuring out how to upgrade snaps inside the new target | 15:30 |
| schopin | 25.04 we said, juliank, not right now ;) | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | time is short | 15:30 |
| juliank | heh | 15:30 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:30 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:30 |
| juliank | I don't really want to assign anything particularly much, there's so much flux and it's hard to figure out what is not time_t and we should work on time_t first anyhow? | 15:31 |
| juliank | Well we can assign any non-armhf failures | 15:32 |
| juliank | Because they block progress and are clearly not time_t armhf bugs ;) | 15:32 |
| * juliank finds last week's assignments | 15:33 | |
| juliank | Apparently Skia is still on libbsd migration but only one armhf task left hooray | 15:34 |
| Skia | yes, and it should probably be done shortly after the gvmd upload from this afternoon | 15:34 |
| juliank | libapt-pkg-perl | 15:35 |
| juliank | liushuyu: bdrung - supposed to have freetype but that seems cleared? | 15:36 |
| juliank | sigh | 15:36 |
| juliank | libapt-pkg-perl: bdrung? you're supposed to have freetype but that seems cleared? | 15:36 |
| ginggs | i had libapt-pkg-perl the previous week | 15:36 |
| bdrung | juliank, i'll be on vacation next week. so please skip me. | 15:37 |
| juliank | ok | 15:37 |
| ginggs | i sync'd the fix from debian, just waiting for tests | 15:37 |
| juliank | ginggs: There is no libapt-pkg assignment in the epic from last week | 15:37 |
| juliank | but good | 15:37 |
| ginggs | previous week | 15:37 |
| juliank | ack | 15:38 |
| juliank | python-apt is mine | 15:38 |
| juliank | waiting for tests I suppose | 15:39 |
| juliank | I don't see my test requests on the package page but I did them | 15:39 |
| juliank | will check /running later | 15:39 |
| juliank | apt vs xz-utils is with upils | 15:40 |
| upils | well, this is a time_t related issue AFAIU | 15:40 |
| upils | so I cannot really do anything about it except waiting for the -all-proposed run, no? | 15:41 |
| juliank | if you queued one then yeah | 15:41 |
| adrien_web | I did: they're not helpful | 15:41 |
| juliank | libtirpc was with liushuyu, there are no failures, but it doesn't migrate; someone to dig at update_output.txt? | 15:41 |
| upils | I did but It may have been lost at some point, I will check again | 15:41 |
| juliank | possibly needs hinting | 15:41 |
| adrien_web | Britney lags but updated an hour ago luckily | 15:42 |
| liushuyu | juliank: libtirpc is still waiting on the excuses to update (the last test just passed several hours ago) | 15:43 |
| juliank | no | 15:43 |
| juliank | hmm | 15:44 |
| juliank | maybe yes but excuses by teams doesn't show | 15:44 |
| liushuyu | "Migration status for libtirpc (1.3.4+ds-1build1 to 1.3.4+ds-1.1): Waiting for test results, another package or too young (no action required now - check later)" | 15:44 |
| juliank | ok | 15:44 |
| * adrien_web only looks at not by team | 15:44 | |
| juliank | libuv1 is with mwhudson | 15:44 |
| juliank | adrien_web: heh but we need to look at by team one here | 15:44 |
| juliank | xz-utils is still with zhsj waiting for tests to run I suppose | 15:45 |
| adrien_web | I did retries for it, i think they're maybe all good now | 15:45 |
| adrien_web | For libuv | 15:45 |
| juliank | optipng is with bdmurray still | 15:45 |
| juliank | slang2 is with tim andersson whatever his handle is, I don't know right know :) | 15:46 |
| adrien_web | juliank: yeah; I wanted to give more context to what I say | 15:46 |
| juliank | nfs-utils is with danilogondolfo still | 15:46 |
| Skia | andersson123, usually, but he's not online right now it seems | 15:46 |
| juliank | fwupd vs libmbim is with pushkarnk | 15:47 |
| pushkarnk | fwupd - waiting for results on amd64/armhf, tests pass locally. Failures on s390x need some investigation | 15:47 |
| juliank | This really should unlock all the fwupd vs * | 15:47 |
| pushkarnk | (actually, I can't repro the fwupd test failures on s390x locally, the tests seem to pass) | 15:49 |
| juliank | glib2.0 blocking *: waveform | 15:49 |
| waveform | ack | 15:49 |
| juliank | Let's skip a couple which only fail on armhf and get more interesting one | 15:50 |
| bdmurray | In the past there were network issues with fwupd | 15:50 |
| juliank | babeltrace is blocked by ceph, but due to dependency issues, but on amd64! | 15:50 |
| pushkarnk | bdmurray: ack, will check from that angle | 15:50 |
| juliank | babeltrace: dviererbe (previous week assignment seems solved) | 15:51 |
| bdmurray | being more specific issues with fwupd trying to access external resources | 15:52 |
| dviererbe | nice, but I did nothing | 15:52 |
| juliank | debhelper: Skia you wanna take those? | 15:52 |
| Skia | sure | 15:52 |
| juliank | It's 6 packages failing but hmm | 15:52 |
| juliank | dwz ginggs | 15:53 |
| ginggs | ack | 15:53 |
| juliank | libnsl slyon | 15:53 |
| slyon | ok | 15:54 |
| juliank | gdbm itself: mkukri | 15:54 |
| mkukri | ack | 15:54 |
| juliank | file, primarily non-armhf ones: mateus-morais | 15:55 |
| mateus-morais | juliank: ack | 15:55 |
| juliank | zlib has a bunch of dependency issues across non-armhf architectures: pushkarnk (please ping if you need assistance) | 15:57 |
| pushkarnk | ack | 15:58 |
| juliank | zlib non-armhf ones: schopin | 15:58 |
| schopin | isn't it what you just assigned? | 15:58 |
| juliank | oops | 15:58 |
| juliank | Let me wait until I find a bigger one for you | 15:59 |
| schopin | erm... OK? | 15:59 |
| juliank | gsasl blocking iproute2: liushuyu | 15:59 |
| liushuyu | juliank: okay | 15:59 |
| juliank | initramfs-tools: So bdrung wants none, so maybe schopin wants that one | 16:00 |
| juliank | It's s390x! | 16:00 |
| bdrung | i'll take care of initramfs-tools | 16:00 |
| bdrung | all those failures should be fixed with the latest uploads | 16:01 |
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| juliank | libpng1.6: schopin | 16:02 |
| juliank | but like maybe focus on the one arm64 | 16:02 |
| juliank | and the i386 | 16:02 |
| * schopin looks around for someone else to jump in. | 16:02 | |
| schopin | ACK. | 16:02 |
| juliank | python-click ogayot | 16:02 |
| juliank | (again the non-armhf ones) | 16:03 |
| juliank | libcgi-pm-perl i386: spyros | 16:03 |
| juliank | libclass-xsaccessor-perl non-armhf: vpa1977 | 16:04 |
| juliank | libdbi-perl non-armhf: adrien_web | 16:05 |
| juliank | libemail-address-xs-perl non-armhf chriscoulson | 16:05 |
| juliank | doko and vorlon get to do time_t only | 16:05 |
| juliank | uh I think let's leave it here | 16:06 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 16:07 |
| bdmurray | I'll be out on Monday. | 16:08 |
| pushkarnk | The next week is going to be a short one for me (two public holidays - Monday and Friday) | 16:08 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 16:12 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:12:30 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-03-21-15.03.moin.txt | 16:12 |
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