[02:29] <mwhudson> is https://launchpad.net/autopilot-gtk a live project still? it's broken with python 3.12
[02:36] <sarnold> I wonder which autopilot this one is..
[14:15] <seb128> hum, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/720644937/buildlog_ubuntu-noble-amd64.system-config-printer_1.5.18-1ubuntu6_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:15] <seb128>  python3-distutils : Depends: python3-lib2to3 (= 3.11.5-1) but 3.12.2-3ubuntu2 is to be installed
[14:22] <seb128> doko, ^ I see   'Stop building the python3-distutils package.' in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-stdlib-extensions/3.12.2-3ubuntu2 , is that temporary for armhf reasons or what's the deal with it?
[14:47] <doko> seb128: no, it's gone, and python3-distutils was always empty for 3.12
[14:52] <seb128> doko, `$ reverse-depends -r noble -b python3-distutils` lists 58 packages, including virt-manager, libreoffice, python-apt
[14:52] <seb128> doko, what's expected to happen to those now?
[14:53] <doko> remove it, but most of it is fixed in -proposed
[14:54] <seb128> doko, what's the fix? like what are we supposed to do for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/1.5.18-1ubuntu6 for example?
[14:55] <seb128> also I don't see a proposed version of python-apt or virt-manager
[14:56] <seb128> nor iotop
[14:56] <seb128> nor pdfkit
[14:56] <seb128> in fact I can't find any of those packages which has a fixed version in proposed
[14:56] <seb128> nor fonts-cantarell
[14:57] <seb128> I might be unlucky in the ones I'm picking but come on, we already have enough transitions and problems to sort out without adding new problems now
[14:59] <doko> this is python3.12, nothing new.
[14:59] <doko> ginggs: ^^^
[15:00] <seb128> doko, we didn't have that depwait problem before today sorry
[15:08] <doko> no, that can't be
[16:25] <vultaire> Not sure if this should go to the devel or kernel channel, but re: noble, I'm dogfooding it and have been hitting reproducible system lockups with general protection faults.  I filed a bug for this, and am happy to work with people for testing and working towards a fix.  I'd love for this to be resolved before Noble goes out the door, because
[16:25] <vultaire> this definitely wasn't an issue for me on Mantic.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2057805
[16:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2057805 in linux (Ubuntu) "On Noble, system is locking up when attempting to log back in after being away for a few minutes" [Undecided, New]
[17:07] <vultaire> bleh, not sure if I got a reply; got disconnected.  I'll leave this be for now, but please, feel free to reach out on the bug I mentioned above.
[17:08] <ahasenack> @pilot in