[10:45] <guiverc> eatyourglory, https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-council-meeting-30th-january-2024/
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:58] <VanUnamed> i am almost ready to give it up
[14:58] <VanUnamed> this I WANT OLD PLASMA
[14:59] <VanUnamed> yet, i guarantee, i will not stop complaining about it at least until april 2025
[15:08] <BluesKaj> !details
[15:50] <VanUnamed> ad also, where does the TOOLBAR widgets has gone ?
[15:50] <VanUnamed> now theres just an icon that you click and everything vanishes
[18:21] <Guest49> I just installed Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 5505. I need help for the following: 1. Touchpad drivers (for tap, scroll etc.) 2. Keyboard (Numpad and, if possible, the special keys as well) 3. Goodix Fingerprint reader. Help would be much appreciated.
 Guest49: for the touchpad, check the settings.
[22:02] <user|75> I just installed Kubuntu and it wont boot
[22:07] <user|51> The packages on Kubuntu:22.04 are snap by standart or there are an diference over Ubuntu:22.04?
[22:10] <tsimpson> same packages
[22:13] <user|51> Ok, but there are an diferent police about snaps?
[22:15] <user|51> In this forum, an user called Mina answer the same question saying that "You can use snaps under Kubuntu, but the default is apt." https://itsfoss.community/t/does-kubuntu-use-snap-as-default/7667
[22:15] <tsimpson> snaps come from the snapcraft store, which is shared
[22:15] <tsimpson> firefox is a snap by default
[22:15] <user|51> Ok, but I want to avoid the snaps, principaly of Firefox.
[22:16] <user|51> This is one problem to me.
[22:16] <tsimpson> why?
[22:17] <user|51> Managing one proprietary software that is imposed to me (to lawyers on Brazil) for digital certificates.
[22:18] <user|51> The path of the driver sometimes do not work properly...
[22:19] <user|51> So, this is not a huge problem normaly, using Debian, for example, but for the last version of the package safesignidentityclient it is an problem.
[22:19] <tsimpson> you can install it "manually" if you really need to, there are instruction on how to setup the mozilla apt repository here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=firefox-download-thanks#w_install-firefox-deb-package-for-debian-based-distributions
[22:20] <tsimpson> once that's set up, FF will always come from the mozilla repos. though you many need to remove the snap first
[22:21] <user|51> Maybe I shoud stay on debian to avoid these adaptations that are against the standarts of the distro...
[22:23] <tsimpson> debian has always been less opinionated that *buntu, but that's the point
[22:23] <user|51> I tried to use MicroOS too, and use the Ubuntu:22.04 on an distrobox, but the snap package don't worked with the command distrobox-export, so I was wandering to migrate to Kubuntu.
[22:24] <tsimpson> the snap package is good for most users, everything is contained updated and you can't break it by installing a new version of a library
[22:24] <tsimpson> but that has some costs too
[22:25] <user|51> That proprietary software achor me on .deb distros (I prefer Debian), but the suport are always to Ubuntu.
[22:25] <user|51> anchor me*
[22:26] <user|51> Sometimes I cannot get the latest software because of the dependences.
[22:30] <user|51> Well, thank you for the aswers.
[22:30] <tsimpson> this is why containers are more popular, all the dependencies can be self-contained and isolated
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[22:35] <user|51> But the vendor of SafeSign doesn't provide the software in appimage, flatpak or snap, even the .deb are more or less a bad adaptation for who want to use linux.