[12:57] <bochecha> hi all, last time I was here jbicha was saying the next LTS was supposed to be released soon, was it? do I need to wait some more and I'm too much in a rush? ;P
[12:58] <RikMills> sgmoore: schopin have uploaded the plasma-welcome patch fix
[12:58] <bochecha> or is the latest LTS still jammy?
[12:58] <schopin> bochecha: for a few weeks, yes, Jammy is still the latest LTS.
[12:59] <bochecha> ok, so I need to wait some more then, thank you :)
[12:59] <RikMills> 24.04 LTS is out 25th April
[13:00] <bochecha> alright, I didn't have any date last time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[13:00] <bochecha> thank you very much :)
[13:00] <schopin> RikMills: hmm, plasma-welcome doesn't ring a bell?
[13:01] <RikMills> schopin: ah, I have the wrong Simon ;)
[14:30] <doko> arraybolt3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qwtplot3d/0.2.7+svn191+gcc7-3build2
[14:33] <doko> arraybolt3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trojita/0.7-0ubuntu7/+build/27926109 (fix, or file a removal bug)
[15:34] <arraybolt3> doko: thanks, will try to do Trojita
[15:35] <arraybolt3> (I tried finding something that looked interesting last night and was unlucky enough to find a package that *never* built on amd64 since the time it was introduced into Ubuntu :P)
[16:26] <arraybolt3> oh what is this garbage, either there's a macro somewhere gumming things up or we've hit a GCC 13 bug, those are my theories so far (looking at the trojita build failure)
[16:46] <arraybolt3> @room: FYI for those who are interested, we now have an Ubuntu Release room on Matrix. https://matrix.to/#/#release:ubuntu.com IRC bridging isn't active yet, but should be in the relatively near future. We already have a port of Queuebot operating in there (written by Nils Büchner a.k.a. ravage), so you can see archive and ISO activity just like in #ubuntu-release.
[17:33] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: I don't think anybody from the release team is that matrix room so I fail to see the utility of it until bridgin is done.
[17:34] <arraybolt3> bdmurray: Technically that's true, but nothing that's still being built has utility until it's finished. It won't have any utility even after bridging unless people know it exists though.
[17:34] <arraybolt3> So this is kind of a "hey, something's being built, join if it looks like something you'll want to use in the future once it's ready"
[17:39] <bdmurray> Well splitting the places to have conversations 1 week before beta and 5 weeks before release seems less than ideal.
[17:41] <arraybolt3> you don't have to use it if you'd rather not, when bridging is on I'll give a second notice about it.
[17:41] <arraybolt3> I don't expect it to become a "secondary Ubuntu Release room" until bridging is up. Bridging should be up soon-ish though, the Matrix team is starting to test it already.
[19:34] <arraybolt3> Anyone available who has insight into the deep magic of debian-cd?
[19:38] <arraybolt3> In particular, I'm trying to figure out how the $PROJECT variable gets set (nothing in debian-cd itself seems to set it AFAICT).
[19:39] <arraybolt3> Reason - I see some of the Ubuntu flavors use names like "ubuntu-desktop", where "desktop" is something like "mate". However, others use "ubuntudesktop" without a dash. I can't tell whether to add "ubuntuunity" or "ubuntu-unity" to one of the files here for making GRUB behave correctly.
[19:43] <arraybolt3> nvm, I think I figured it out.
[22:16] <arraybolt3> doko: I give up on Trojita, there's some sort of esoteric compiler failure that is beyond my comprehension going on there. If it perishes, it perishes.