[11:50] <penguin42> hmm, the house alarm clock has fixed itself, I'm fairly sure it was still wrong when I went to bed after the flip;   but then I seem to have had to do the heating clock which I thought did it automatically; sigh
[12:10] <zxmpi> changed my dumb nokia. should be it
[20:19] <daftykins> i do enjoy having something 'dumb' that serves as a reference point :D
[20:24] <zxmpi> sadly with the switching off of 3g network my dumb nokia no longer has a web browser. so no more rss or browsing. i got a new 4g nokia dumb phone but seems since 2020 they no longer run unapproved java apps. only the ones nokia allows
[20:25] <daftykins> :( that's a shame
[20:25] <zxmpi> so looking for a new dumb phone with java support and 4g and internet browser
[20:25] <daftykins> i understand that such a model would only be useful if a network supports VoLTE, which i don't think they do over here
[20:25] <daftykins> i've always seen handsets drop data from LTE to HSPA/UMTS (3G tiers) when a voice call is in progress
[20:26] <zxmpi> it's bloody infuriating as there are java apps installed and you can download a few from store but not the ones i want
[20:26] <penguin42> zxmpi: Maybe https://www.doro.com/en-gb/shop/mobile-devices/easy-phones/doro-6820/ ?
[20:26] <zxmpi> so no ereader, micro spreadsheet, memo pad, games
[20:27] <penguin42> oh, no browser etc on it
[20:28] <zxmpi> i did look at a few dors and left a question on their site asking. but looking at the manual for that there is no mention of a web browser which is kinda a blue m&m for a good dumb phone
[20:28] <zxmpi> *few doros
[20:29] <penguin42> there's not many, otherwise you could look at a few Doros more...
[20:31] <zxmpi> can do quite a bit on a 3310 https://mastodon.ie/@zxm/111008086805290628