[00:02] <hernan> hi!
[00:02] <hernan> is it possible to respond "yes/ok" to the "Daemons using outdated libraries"
[00:02] <hernan> ?
[00:04] <mybalzitch> when running apt?
[07:03] <oty> Some help on setting up sound on my hp envy x360. I want to use the internal speakers
[12:43] <jcdutton> How is the discussion about xz/liblzma progressing ?
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> jcdutton: the devs are still doing a lot of work
[12:53] <jcdutton> lotuspsychje, I was thinking, it might be worth implementing a xz decode only lib, so that the likes of systemd can use that instead. It would be a much simpler api.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> jcdutton: feel free to discuss ideas at #ubuntu-discuss
[13:17] <vankubuntu> hey hehy
[13:17] <vankubuntu> any idea why i get this "Authorization supplicant failed" when i conect to wifi
[13:28] <wdb> vankubuntu: this could be an issue with the power-saving settings for NetworkManager, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/585063/wireless-interface-authorization-supplicant-failed-kubuntu-20-04
[13:50] <entcfx> d
[15:43] <iconoclast_hero> how can i manually rotate /var/log/syslog ?
[15:49] <milktoast> hope I'm in the right area.... been running for a while and it just upgraded to 22 and the ubuntu desktop scrabbled up.  I can't find a solutions... any ideas?
[15:49] <milktoast> the command line screen is fine
[15:50] <iconoclast_hero> what happens if you log in as a new user?
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> that would rule config files in ~
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> that would rule out config files in ~
[15:51] <milktoast> gui or terminal ?
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> gui
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> make a new user
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> log in as such
[15:51] <milktoast> can't really see the Login screen on the desktop... scribbled up
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> if you have something in one of your .files that is causing the problem this would point that out
[15:51] <iconoclast_hero> oh
[15:52] <iconoclast_hero> switch to/from lightdm
[15:52] <iconoclast_hero> gdm
[15:52] <iconoclast_hero> ?
[15:53] <iconoclast_hero> https://itsfoss.com/switch-gdm-and-lightdm-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:53] <iconoclast_hero> update-alternative should probably do this too...
[15:53] <milktoast> currently    Main PID: 1646 (gdm3)
[15:56] <BarnabasDK> iconoclast_hero, could this be a move to Wayland problem via upgrade to 22? Maybe try to configure gdm to use X.
[15:56] <BarnabasDK> see if it restores the login screen
[15:58] <milktoast> on a ssh and a local terminal, I ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3" and it just went back to a blank command line
[15:58] <jcdutton> milktoast, can you take a pic of the "scibbled up" screen.  I cannot understand what that looks like.
[15:58] <milktoast> I'll try I screen shot... just a moment
[15:59] <jcdutton> iconoclast_hero, "logrotate -f"
[16:02] <BarnabasDK> milktoast, if you reconfgure gdm (a good idea as an initial fix) you would also need to restart it
[16:02] <BarnabasDK> sudo systemctl restart gdm
[16:03] <milktoast> I don't see an "attach" option on this IRC
[16:03] <BarnabasDK> use a pastebin
[16:04] <BarnabasDK> irc is from a time before screenshots
[16:07] <bunjee> newbie here.....can I get some help finding out if I can upgrade my current OS without burning a DVD?
[16:07] <milktoast98> use a USB memory stick
[16:08] <milktoast98> or just a command line
[16:08] <bunjee> wwhat command line?
[16:08] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, could you post the output of
[16:08] <BarnabasDK> lsb_release -a
[16:09] <BarnabasDK> in a terminal
[16:09] <milktoast98> sudo apt update    and then    sudo apt upgrade
[16:09] <BarnabasDK> milktoast98, he wants to upgrade the entire os
[16:09] <BarnabasDK> not just installed dependencies
[16:10] <BarnabasDK> and software
[16:10] <milktoast98> oh... sorry
[16:10] <BarnabasDK> so - lets find out what version we he is at
[16:11] <BarnabasDK> allthough that is a good idea before doing any os upgrade actions
[16:12] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, are you familiar with launching the terminal?
[16:13] <milktoast98> I ran  "sudo systemctl restart gdm" and started the PC and the screen is the same
[16:14] <bunjee> I have the terminal open and found out the release it's 22.04 jammy
[16:14] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, super
[16:14] <jcdutton> bunjee, what are you wishing to upgrade from what to what?
[16:15] <BarnabasDK> from 22.04 as he states
[16:15] <BarnabasDK> now - to what
[16:16] <milktoast98> That is my version that is giving me the scribbled screen
[16:16] <jcdutton> bunjee, if it is from one version of ubuntu to another, you can use "do-release-upgrade".  No DVD or USB needed if your PC has internet access.
[16:16] <jcdutton> bunjee, but backup all your data first, in case the upgrade fails.
[16:17] <bunjee> I'll try that
[16:17] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, as far as I can tell, and everyone else please chime in, 22.04 is the latest LTS version - are you sure you want to move to the "interim" version of ubuntu - that is the more unstable version of ubuntu between LTS versions?
[16:17] <BarnabasDK> or are you really wishing to upgrade to the next LTS version
[16:18] <bunjee> yes....just did the command and it read there is no LTS relese as of now.
[16:19] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, so I think - unless you have a very specific need - you should maybe wait for the LTS release that is to replace 22.04?
[16:19] <bunjee> you are correct sir. Thank you.
[16:20] <BarnabasDK> bunjee, happy to help
[16:20] <jcdutton> bunjee, there are more up to date ubuntu versions, but they are more like test versions, in between LTS versions.  It is safer to stick with LTS. There will be another LTS soon.
[16:22] <bunjee> Thank you to all helping .
[16:23] <milktoast98> any other ideas on the scribbled the screen? :-)
[16:24] <BarnabasDK> milktoast98, could you check the contents of /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[16:24] <BarnabasDK> is the value WaylandEnable set and if so - to what
[16:25] <BarnabasDK> a hash would be a comment out of the config parameter
[16:25] <milktoast98> #WaylandEnable=false
[16:26] <BarnabasDK> an experiment - I do not know if it will fix your problem - but could you try to remove that hash - and do the gdm restart again?
[16:26] <BarnabasDK> you do not need to reboot your pc
[16:26] <milktoast98> will do
[16:28] <BarnabasDK> it should then run GDM using X - not wayland - and your drivers may be more compatible
[16:29] <milktoast98> BarnabasDK   you're a genius... that solved the issue
[16:29] <BarnabasDK> well ..
[16:29] <BarnabasDK> Wayland is the future
[16:29] <BarnabasDK> X is what we are leaving behind
[16:29] <BarnabasDK> my guess is that you are probably using nvidia card?
[16:30] <BarnabasDK> and - when you continue to login in GDM - for now - make sure to select gnome on X not gnome on wayland in the dropdown
[16:31] <milktoast98> RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE]
[16:31] <BarnabasDK> unfortunately (or fortunately? I don't know) I have very little experience with recent AMD GPU drivers and linux
[16:31] <BarnabasDK> and wayland
[16:33] <milktoast98> Thanks for your help!!
[16:33] <BarnabasDK> milktoast98, happy to help
[16:36] <jcdutton> milktoast98, did you have any luck uploading a pic to pastebin or whatever and posting a link here
[16:38] <milktoast98> I cant find an  "upload" or attach link
[16:39] <BarnabasDK> jcdutton, also - it is probably an AMD GPU driver issue - not really something fixable in ubuntu
[16:39] <BarnabasDK> incompability with wayland
[16:40] <BarnabasDK> milktoast98, Just so you realize - the "solution" is not that - it is a work around
[16:56] <Guest68> how how to fix the following? W: https://pkg.osquery.io/deb/dists/deb/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
[16:58] <Guest68> i run these commands: https://ideone.com/jGs3Fc
[16:58] <Guest68> on ubuntu 22.04
[17:04] <Guest68> chmod was added according to: https://github.com/NVIDIA/nvidia-container-toolkit/issues/81
[17:04] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 81 in NVIDIA/nvidia-container-toolkit "Can't install due to no public key being available for Ubuntu" [Open]
[17:14] <iconoclast_hero> "<BarnabasDK> irc is from a time before screenshots"
[17:15] <bprompt> actually, there were screenshots and pictures at the same time as IRC, just a matter of what one wants to send or show
[17:16] <BarnabasDK> but where they in the irc protocol?
[17:16] <BarnabasDK> and are they today?
[17:17] <BarnabasDK> and - just to keep that kind of stuff (and code out of the channel) - I suggest a pastebin - I hope you agree?
[17:17] <iconoclast_hero> i was using irc in 1992 or 1993 I'm sure...
[17:17] <BarnabasDK> me too
[17:17] <iconoclast_hero> there was no way to share a screenshot conveniently then
[17:17] <milktoast> back again... looking for advice....
[17:17] <milktoast> Looking to create a Home NAS
[17:17] <milktoast> my computer is a Dell Precision T7400
[17:17] <milktoast> root drive is 150G SSD and it has 5 other mounted  1TB HDDs
[17:17] <milktoast> The NAS will hold the Pics, Muisc and video that my Plex server uses and other personal data storage
[17:17] <milktoast> I hope that makes sense.
[17:18] <iconoclast_hero> i guess you could mime attach it to an email if you had that.
[17:18] <bprompt> BarnabasDK: depends on the IRC client, many can show emojis these days
[17:18] <BarnabasDK> bprompt, basically you can serialize anyting over irc and make it work in a client
[17:19] <BarnabasDK> but - it is then up to the client
[17:19] <iconoclast_hero> ftp it...
[17:19] <BarnabasDK> ftp is hopefully not in use any more
[17:19] <BarnabasDK> like telnet
[17:19] <Guest68> hi, how how to fix the following? W: https://pkg.osquery.io/deb/dists/deb/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details. i run these commands: https://ideone.com/jGs3Fc
[17:19] <iconoclast_hero> BarnabasDK: the comment just struck me as I was surprised when I came back to it 20 years later and now use it for help all the tie.
[17:19] <Guest68> any idea on the ^^
[17:20] <bprompt> BarnabasDK: yeap, in essence IRC will do text, but then again, you can base64 a bitmap picture and decode it on the client, hmmm there's also DCC, and that has been in IRC since the beginning I think, and in DCC you can send anything over
[17:20] <iconoclast_hero> i use ftp to move stuff back and forth b/w my seedbox.
[17:20] <BarnabasDK> iconoclast_hero, yeah
[17:20] <iconoclast_hero> i'd have to pay more for ssl and i don't care that my torrent contnets is in the clear.
[17:20] <BarnabasDK> bprompt, yeah but the current OP above did not have a client capable
[17:21] <tomreyn> iconoclast_hero, bprompt, BarnabasDK: could you kindly move the chat elsewhere, while we have support requests in here
[17:21] <BarnabasDK> tomreyn, chat done
[17:21] <bprompt> tomreyn: roger
[17:21] <tomreyn> thanks :)
[17:21] <BarnabasDK> tomreyn, and agree
[17:21] <bprompt> BarnabasDK: yes and #ubuntu-offtopic may work better
[17:21] <BarnabasDK> am there
[17:23] <tomreyn> Guest68: so "apt-key(8)" is a way of saying "run   man 8 apt-key" in your terminal, or read section 8 of the "apt-key" man(ual) page online
[17:23] <tomreyn> !man
[17:24] <Guest68> ubottu here is way i run the chmod: https://ideone.com/jGs3Fc
[17:25] <tomreyn> Guest68: here's the online man page, and the 'deprecation' section, explaining why this returned a warning https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man8/apt-key.8.html#deprecation
[17:25] <Guest68> is the chmod really required?
[17:25] <Guest68> for the error above in the ideone paste?
[17:26] <Guest68> tmroland also can i do a sudo cp trusted.gpg trusted.gpg.d ... to fix the warning?
[17:28] <Guest68> or better to do: sudo apt-key export 0C1289C0 | sudo gpg --dearmour -o /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/teamviewer.gpg ... ?
[17:29] <tomreyn> the ideone pastebin is difficult to read for me, as it forcefully wraps lines, also it looks like the urls in the paste are modified somehow.
[17:29] <tomreyn> i've repasted https://ideone.com/jGs3Fc to https://dpaste.com/BJKPVARPT (expires in a day)
[17:30] <milktoast> Any home NAS advice
[17:31] <tomreyn> milktoast: for hardware advice, i suggest asking in #hardware
[17:31] <milktoast> thanks....; just looking for software advice
[17:32] <tomreyn> Guest68: so the first error at line 14 on the dpaste seem to be about a missing gpg key DDCAE044F796ECB0
[17:33] <tomreyn> Guest68: maybe that's the one you're later downloading, but i can't verify this, because the url is garbled
[17:34] <tomreyn> Guest68: you seem to be following some guide there, which one?
[17:34] <jcdutton> milktoast, here is a site like pastebin but for images:  https://pasteboard.co/
[17:35] <milktoast> https://pasteboard.co/s3fmJIRa6Czk.jpg
[17:35] <tomreyn> Guest68: to respond to your question about chmod: this may be needed, or at least desirable, it should not harm.
[17:36] <milktoast> that was the display
[17:39] <Guest68> tomreyn ok thx - does the sudo chmod 0644 /usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-container-toolkit-keyring.gpg \ make sense in here? https://dpaste.com/BJKPVARPT
[17:40] <Guest68> line 4: Err:4 https://nvidia.github.io/libnvidia-container/stable/deb/amd64  InRelease
[17:40] <Guest68>   The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DDCAE044F796ECB0
[17:41] <Guest68> so i added: sudo chmod 0644 /usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-container-toolkit-keyring.gpg ... see https://dpaste.com/BJKPVARPT ... does that make sense?
[17:42] <tomreyn> milktoast: so your setup plan does not sound wrong. you may want to use a mirror raid for a nas, to increase data storage reliability. i do not know what kinds of NAS plex supports, or which operating systems you will use to access the data on the NAS. NFS may be ideal if you have linux only clients (to the NAS), otherwise it's probably samba (if you also have windows clients; not sure about os x).
[17:45] <tomreyn> Guest68: why are you running these series of commands and not just one by one? would that not be much easier to debug?
[17:45] <tomreyn> and, again, which guide are you following there?
[17:46] <tomreyn> and do you have the full urls available?
[17:54] <Guest68> tomreyn i followed https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/install-guide.html#installing-with-apt
[17:55] <Guest68> but run into error with apt-get update Err:4 https://nvidia.github.io/libnvidia-container/stable/deb/amd64  InRelease
[17:55] <Guest68> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DDCAE044F796ECB0
[17:56] <Guest68> so i added the sudo chmod 0644 /usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-container-toolkit-keyring.gpg because i saw people suggesting it here: https://github.com/NVIDIA/nvidia-docker/issues/1658
[17:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1658 in NVIDIA/nvidia-docker "nvidia-docker installation GPG error" [Closed]
[17:57] <Guest68> i followed https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/install-guide.html#installing-with-apt ... but run into error with apt-get update Err:4 https://nvidia.github.io/libnvidia-container/stable/deb/amd64  InRelease ... The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[17:57] <Guest68> DDCAE044F796ECB0 ... so i added the sudo chmod 0644 /usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-container-toolkit-keyring.gpg because i saw people suggesting it here: https://github.com/NVIDIA/nvidia-docker/issues/1658
[17:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1658 in NVIDIA/nvidia-docker "nvidia-docker installation GPG error" [Closed]
[17:58] <Guest68> sorry - posted twice
[18:03] <BarnabasDK> Guest68, I think you need to add the key with the id DDCAE044F796ECB0 to what you accept install wise
[18:03] <BarnabasDK> or APT wise
[18:03] <Guest68> what comd to run?
[18:04] <Guest68> sudo apt-key export DDCAE044F796ECB0 | sudo gpg --dearmour -o /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/teamviewer.gpg      ... ?
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> will this (a little aged) howto work https://askubuntu.com/questions/823616/gpg-keyexpired-error-in-when-updating-repositories/823965#823965
[18:05] <BarnabasDK> I hope askubuntu links are ok here in this way
[18:05] <Guest68> BarnabasDK dod u see this? https://github.com/NVIDIA/nvidia-docker/issues/1658
[18:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1658 in NVIDIA/nvidia-docker "nvidia-docker installation GPG error" [Closed]
[18:05] <Guest68> he just run chmod
[18:06] <BarnabasDK> local file access is not the issue is it?
[18:06] <BarnabasDK> so how does chmod enter into it?
[19:04] <tomreyn> Guest68: sorry, i got distracted there. were you still looking for help with this?
[20:07] <milktoast> Dell has a BIOS update that was for Redhat... it is a ".bin" file ... is it possible to run that under Ubuntu?
[20:09] <bprompt> milktoast: yeap, run an "ls -l" on it, make sure is "executable", if it isn't, make it so with --> chmod a+x FILE.bin <-- then run it
[20:09] <bprompt> milktoast: since it's a bios update, it may require "sudo" of course
[20:10] <milktoast> Thanks.. I'll give it a try
[20:20] <tomreyn> milktoast: make sure you get any code you are going to execute from a trusted source, and are able to verify its authenticity.
[20:38] <SamuelMarks> Is there a new file manager in Ubuntu 24.04?
[20:39] <SamuelMarks> Every directory opens in VSCode. How do I open in GNOME's file manager instead? - `xdg-mime query default inode/directory` shows org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop; `nautilus .` says I need to `apt install nautilus` and all of `open .`, `xdg-open .`, `gio open .` open up VScode instead of a proper default file manager.
[20:43] <newb_question> I have an Ubuntu 22.0.4.1 system running kernel 6.5.0-26-generic. I want to experiment on a kernel module that's in-tree, so I install the kernel source with this command, taken straight from the Ubuntu wiki: apt source linux-image-unsigned-$(uname -r)
[20:43] <newb_question> Lots of stuff happens, everything seems to be good, I see reassuring stuff like "applying linux-hwe-6.5_6.5.0-26.26~22.04.1.diff.gz"
[20:44] <newb_question> But when I actually compile a module and do a "sudo make module_install", it keeps installing my new module into /usr/lib/modules/6.5.13 instead of 6.5.0-26-generic! What am I doing wrong?
[20:50] <tomreyn> !next | SamuelMarks
[20:54] <tomreyn> newb_question: are you using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel ?
[20:55] <newb_question> That's where I started, yes. But I don't want to build the entire kernel from scratch, just the one module, so I haven't followed it verbatim. (I started to, but it took a full day of compiling on this computer and then the system froze, so...)
[20:57] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe cross compile then
[20:57] <tomreyn> there's also #ubuntu-kernel where you may be able to get more / better answers starting some 10 hours from now.
[20:59] <newb_question> Thanks. What happens in 10 hours...?
[21:00] <kostkon_> newb_question sunrise
[21:01] <newb_question> Oh, hah
[21:02] <tomreyn> in uk
[21:03] <Guest6413> hi
[21:06] <Guest8502> sry Hi
[21:08] <newb_question> This shows what I'm struggling with:
[21:08] <newb_question> user@kernel-compiler:~/experiment/linux-hwe-6.5-6.5.0$ uname -r
[21:08] <newb_question> 6.5.0-26-generic
[21:08] <newb_question> user@kernel-compiler:~/experiment/linux-hwe-6.5-6.5.0$ sudo make M=drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000/ modules_install
[21:08] <newb_question>   INSTALL /lib/modules/6.5.13/updates/e1000.ko
[21:23] <help> is IRC dead?
[21:23] <coz_> NO!
[21:23] <help> thx
[21:24] <coz_> :)
[21:24] <shadowtux> Naah. Just little more quiet
[21:24] <coz_> help, may be just slow at this time, people going home from work etc
[21:25] <shadowtux> And Europe starts to sleep at this time also.
[21:25] <coz_> ^^^ that also :)
[21:26] <help> Can I stay here a little longer?
[21:27] <help> my nick is wrong
[21:27] <coz_> stay as long as you like
[21:27] <coz_> change it
[21:28] <coz_> help, do you know how?
[21:28] <help> yes ... but i cant change it
[21:28] <coz_> oh?
[21:28] <help> sry i am noob
[21:28] <coz_> oh just type /nick  then type a new nick
[21:30] <coz_> yay!
[21:37] <tryn4x> ahh
[21:37] <tryn4x> thx
[21:44] <tryn4x> I know I'm in an "Ubuntu" channel, but how are you?
[21:46] <jeremy31> !chat
[21:46] <tryn4x> sry
[21:47] <jeremy31> tryn4x: #ubuntu-offtopic is active now
[22:18]  * SamuelMarks still has same question unanswered