[00:34] <SamuelMarks> tomreyn: hmmmmmm
[00:35] <SamuelMarks> nautilus : Depends: nautilus-data (= 1:46~beta-0ubuntu3) but 1:46.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[00:43] <Bashing-om> SamuelMarks: Due to backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma - downgrading the dependencies.
[01:48] <SamuelMarks> Bashing-om - ahhh
[01:51] <Bashing-om> SamuelMarks: See: What’s happening in Noble repositories? - https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/whats-happening-in-noble-repositories/43729 for greater info.
[01:59] <SamuelMarks> ahhh
[06:31] <alkisg> Hi all; should I be able to use secureboot=on with ubuntu 24.04?
[06:31] <alkisg> Also, what replaced http://packages.ubuntu.com/shim-signed in 24.04?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: currently noble is in a bit of flaky stage, due the xz you surely heared about
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> the installers are also being reworked, theres a lot going on
[09:07] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: I've had it installed since December, I'm not installing it now. But I can't invoke the secure boot configuration dialog for some reason
[09:08] <alkisg> I think that something has changed regarding shim, but I  don't know what
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> i havent played much with the setups myself, maybe guiverc might know something^
[09:11] <RikMills> alkisg: some amd64 binaries have been removed from the archive due to the xz issue and will be rebuild in time
[09:11] <RikMills> ahim-signed may have been one of those
[09:12] <RikMills> *shim
[09:13] <RikMills> if not that, then *shrug*
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:14] <alkisg> Thank you RikMills, that might explain it...
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> lets just wait until the storm is over
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> and apt drags in updates in
[09:16] <RikMills> yeah, at the moment even ISOs fail to build on basic deps
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> better be safe then sorry
[09:34] <guiverc> I've had secure boot on at times & off at others (virtualbox is easier with it off) but haven't probably had secure-boot enabled since before 28-March (I can't recall setting but suspect it's off currently)
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx guiverc 
[11:10] <ogra_> alkisg, you can also not "enable" secureboot after installation (not sure what that parameter above refers to) it need to happen at install time since the setup is completely different 
[13:59] <alkisg> ogra_: in the past, by just removing and reinstalling shim and grub-efi, it worked fine; is there an additional step now? How would one enable it afterwards?
[13:59] <alkisg> E.g. suppose you replaced a motherboard, you wouldn't want to reinstall..
[14:01] <ogra_> alkisg, if you use TPM based sceboot+full disk encryption your kernel comes as a snap package ... if you do not have that setup from the installer you can not switch 
[14:02] <alkisg> Sure a new board wouldn't have the necessary TPM keys; I'm talking without involving encryption...
[14:07] <ogra_> well, there the old way should still work i figure ... i dont think that was touched ... sorry, i thought you mean TPM based
[14:18] <alkisg> 👍 👍 👍
[16:00] <ChmEarl> counted 298 t64 libs in Noble main, it won't be long till full migration from proposed, perhaps 24 more hours
[18:53] <RikMills> update on xz https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/xz-liblzma-security-update-post-2/43801
[22:31] <cgmb> "pbuilder-dist noble amd64 create" is failing for me with the message "E: Couldn't find these debs: apt" from debootstrap
[22:32] <cgmb> Is that something I'm doing wrong, or is apt legitimately missing from the noble repos right now?
[22:32] <cgmb> full log: https://gist.github.com/cgmb/e19faab9d8e9348998884327801cc656
[23:31] <quidnunc> cgmb: I don't know but apparently there is chaos due to the xz vulnerability and mass package rebuilding