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Guest92hi, how can i fix the following apt-get error? https://dpaste.com/54LKKQT3J00:34
Guest92re00:45
leftyfbGuest92: curl -sSL "https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x511367CACD0EDF6B" | sudo gpg --dearmor --output /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/nvidia.gpg --yes00:46
Guest92leftyfb what does that do?00:46
leftyfbfixes your error00:46
Guest92if i open https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x511367CACD0EDF6B ... it says not found00:47
leftyfbGuest92: ok, then you'll need to contact Nvidia doe support with their repository00:48
Guest92hm...00:48
leftyfbGuest92: I would recommend just sticking with the nvidia drivers available in the ubuntu repositories00:48
leftyfb!nvidia | Guest9200:48
ubottuGuest92: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers00:48
Guest92i just need a nvidia driver for the machine here... i went to the website to get it00:49
Guest92how can i undo the sudo dpkg -i nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb ?00:49
Guest92and how can i find a similar one in ubuntu repo?00:50
leftyfbtry sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu220400:50
leftyfbGuest92: follow the instructions that ubottu gave you00:50
Guest92E: Unable to locate package nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu220400:50
Guest92^^ sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu220400:51
leftyfbtry sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo*00:51
Guest92E: Unable to locate package nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb00:51
leftyfbGuest92: apt list installed nvidia-driver-local*00:52
leftyfbwhat does that give you?00:52
Guest92https://dpaste.com/DNUYBREK400:53
leftyfbok, it's not installed00:53
leftyfbremove the repository to added00:53
Guest92yeah not installed - just broken apt-get update00:53
Guest92sudo sudo dpkg -r nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb ?00:54
leftyfbsudo grep -R nvidia /etc/apt/sources*   # what does this give you?00:54
Guest92https://dpaste.com/AY8NU6UE300:55
leftyfbsudo rm -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{nvidia-*,cuda-ubuntu*}00:57
Guest92does that also remove nvidia-container-toolkit?00:58
Guest92and codua?00:59
Guest92should it keep that?00:59
leftyfbit does00:59
Guest92souldnt i not keep that?00:59
leftyfbwhy do you need it?00:59
Guest92i need ot install nvidia-toolkit later00:59
Guest92or maybe already installed it - dont remember00:59
leftyfbok, then feel free to pick and choose the repositories you want to keep vs remove01:00
leftyfbdefinitely remove /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-driver-local-ubuntu2204-550.54.15.list01:00
Guest92sudo rm -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-driver-local-ubuntu2204-550.54.15.list ...01:01
Guest92leftyfb how can i now install the nvidia driver from ubuntu source?01:02
leftyfb!nvidia | Guest9201:02
ubottuGuest92: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers01:02
Guest92sudo apt install nvidia-utils-510 sudo apt install nvidia-utils-510-server ... is that a driver i can use?01:05
Guest92looks like that one i found was 550.54.15.01:06
Guest92looks like i can just do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa sudo apt update ... than: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-550 ... leftyfb01:08
leftyfbGuest92: good luck. I have to head out now01:08
Guest92leftyfb lmk if im on the wrong track :)01:09
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Guest92oh: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-55001:10
Guest92oh its called: nvidia-graphics-drivers-550 - 550.67-0ubuntu0~gpu24.04.101:10
Guest92no01:11
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Guest92looks like there are many packages01:13
Guest92which one is the actual driver?01:13
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sarnoldGuest92: I haven't followed along, but it's usually best to just run ubuntu-drivers and let it sort everything out01:26
Guest92i saw nvidia page:01:27
Guest92https://docs.nvidia.com/metropolis/deepstream/dev-guide/text/DS_Quickstart.html#dgpu-setup-for-ubuntu01:27
Guest92what you think of this install?01:27
Guest92than: https://docs.nvidia.com/metropolis/deepstream/dev-guide/text/DS_Quickstart.html#install-nvidia-driver-535-104-1201:28
Guest92it seems they suggest running this run file01:28
sarnoldah, if you're using some weird drivers then you might be better suited to ask them questions01:28
Guest92sarnold here is waht i currently see : https://dpaste.com/GVF8RUL4U01:32
Guest92does it mean i need to install the nvidia-utils-510 ?01:32
sarnoldGuest92: hah, maybe fix those permissions errors?01:34
Guest92how?01:35
Guest92chmod 666 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-container-toolkit.list ?01:35
Guest92chmod 0644 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-container-toolkit.list ?01:35
Guest92ok that fixed it01:36
Guest92now i just see Command 'nvidia-sm' not found, did you mean:01:36
Guest92i tried before: sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-550 nvidia-utils-55001:37
Guest92but that seems was not the right driver01:37
Guest92i try 535...01:40
Guest92*** Reboot your computer and verify that the NVIDIA graphics driver can   ***01:40
Guest92*** be loaded.01:40
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AfaqCUCKBIhi06:33
AfaqCUCKBIany muslim married men06:34
Unit193Wrong channel, AfaqCUCKBI.06:34
AfaqCUCKBIcan u point me to right dir06:34
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Unit193Not really a place to look for hookups or whatnot.  This is for Ubuntu linux technical support.06:35
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Guest24hi, I am running ubuntu 23.10. I used microphone once and then the top right notification panel will show audio input (microphone) icon. But after I stop using the microphone, the microphone icon is still there. Does it mean the microphone is still in use? Is that possible to turn the microphone icon off since I am not using it right now. Thanks a08:09
Guest24lot. (the default ubuntu release with gnome I guess).08:09
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HOLASOYJAIMEi havent used ubuntu since unity. is gnome shell good?10:52
HOLASOYJAIMElooks like this chat is full of CIA glowyies10:54
monty_hallI've heard about "xz" trojan horse.  I see that I have "xz-utils" installed. Do I uninstall?11:06
ravage_no released version of Ubuntu is affected by that xz backdoor11:07
ogra_monty_hall, only if you run the unreleased development version of the upcoming 24.0411:07
ogra_(and even there it should have already been rolled back, the affected version was only available for less than 1h in the archive)11:08
Unit193In Debian #1068024 there's some discussion as to if it's been rolled back enough, but yet again the LTS isn't affected by that even.  IIRC.11:12
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 1068024 in xz-utils "revert to version that does not contain changes by bad actor" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/106802411:12
ogra_right, in ubuntu it has already been rolled back anyway ...11:14
ogra_(to two versions before or some such)11:15
Unit193ogra_: Which still has some commits by that person, but so far looks fine enough.11:15
ogra_the prob is that there are tons of packages using xz and they have been re-built with the broken one so all these are currently re-building against the older version again11:15
Unit193Is that entangled in t64 too?11:16
ogra_(and the archive being rather inconsistent thanks to t64 is not helping with that)11:16
ogra_not directly. but indirectly due to borken dependencies because of time_t6411:17
Unit193\o/11:17
RikMillst64 transition migrated, but only by allowing some uninstallability on armhf11:17
Unit193Gotcha, nice.11:18
ogra_right, only uninstallability of armhf ... but the package transition between proposed and the archive doesnt look at arches ...11:18
ogra_so other arches are affected too as a side effect11:19
RikMillsdepends if archive admins do again what they did for t64. i.e. enabled break-archs in britney for armhf11:19
ogra_(it's a giant mess ... had you asked me, we should have done the time_t64 stuff last release)11:20
Unit193Most certainly.11:20
RikMillsso extra problems in armhf don't hold the rest back11:20
ogra_i mean, nobody could predict the xz mess that adds on top here ... but still11:20
RikMillst64 should have been done a few months ago IIRC, but got delayed11:21
ogra_yep ...11:21
ogra_either way, we should move to #ubuntu-discuss if we want to keep discussing this 🙂11:21
ogra_(or to -next)11:21
Unit193(also usrmove)11:21
RikMillsyes, we should11:21
bmbbsrHi is Stani's Python editor SPE no longer in the Repros ?11:23
bmbbsrthis new Phyton Ediutors are around 300MB of code while stanis has been 5Mn11:25
ogra_i think that was never ported to python3, was it ?11:27
RikMillsseems not https://i.imgur.com/NYUHos0.png11:27
ogra_yeah, so dropped in debian too11:29
bmbbsrso  id must go to a LARGE Editor for simple code or just make it Gedit/Vim11:29
ogra_or ask stanis to not use an EOLed python version 😉11:29
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lotuspsychjehis ppa and blog seems to be very outdated too11:30
lotuspsychjehttps://launchpad.net/~stani/+archive/ubuntu/ppa11:30
bmbbsrogra_ is he still alive as of his age11:30
ogra_i dont even know who stanis is, no idea 🙂11:30
bmbbsrWHAT minimal Phython Editor Woudt you recoment for a Small Operating system11:32
ogra_dunno, i use vim ... but perhaps thonny ?11:34
bmbbsreric or geany is the Numbers that are very low in the Phython editor listings11:35
ogra_whatever suits you11:35
ogra_try them out11:35
bmbbsrthank you11:36
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imiwas ubuntu jammy LST at any point vulnerable to the recent xz backdoor?12:17
imi*LTS12:17
pragmaticenigmaimi: no12:19
sybaritenSalut12:27
sybaritenfundamental question: terms like chatgpt will typically "never" appear in an apt-search on a ubuntu v22, given that those things started getting a lot of traction last year, and thus ubuntu version is way older than that (and doesnt get newer software in apt) .....  right?12:30
sybariten(true assumption, or completely wrong?)12:31
sybaritens/thus/this12:31
TabmowWrong, new packages/versions of software get made for 'old' version of ubuntu. Especially LTS releases.12:32
pragmaticenigmasybariten: If a package exists in the configured repositories for your installation, it will appear in the listing.12:33
sybaritenTabmow: pragmaticenigma: OK i was completely wrong then. I thought there was an element of "locking" the distro, until theres a new release12:35
TabmowThat does happen at a certain point... but as long as you are using a supported release version then generally most packages will be supported in one way or another.12:36
PeGaSuSI don't like to cross post, but I'n on a dead end: so, I'm still facing the `/usr/bin/ld: error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1: file too short` issue. if I delete the file and create the symlinkl manually all works fine until the next upgrade12:41
pragmaticenigmadead end? sounds like a broken install and one that I would just wipe and start over12:43
PeGaSuShow can it be a broken install? it worked for long time with the same packages it has installed now12:44
PeGaSuSif I try to `apt install --reinstall libkeyutils1` I get: dpkg: warning: symbolic link '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1' size has changed from 20 to 1812:45
nteodosioPeGaSuS, I don't know the context, but did you already try  apt install --reinstall libkeyutils1?12:45
nteodosioNevermind, a few seconds too late.12:46
PeGaSuSand it is still broken. smartctl shows no issues with the disk (apparently)12:46
nteodosioWhat release is that?12:47
PeGaSuSUbuntu 22.04 LTS12:47
sybaritenTabmow: would you mind explaining that last comment a bit further or rather dumbed down? I'm on v22, which i believe is also called LTS for "long term support", right?12:51
nteodosioPeGaSuS, what is 'ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1*'?12:52
Tabmowsybariten, https://www.releases.ubuntu.com12:52
PeGaSuSall was working perfectly and all of a sudden I did `apt update && apt dist-upgrade`, went to recompile WeeChat from source qnd faced that issue. I tried the `--reinstall` first to no avail. then I played dangerously and removed the symlink and recreated it manually. it worked until I did some `apt update && apt dist-upgrade` and then today when tried to recompile WeeChat again, I hit the wall12:53
PeGaSuSagain. once again, I removed and recreated the symlink manually12:53
pragmaticenigmaPeGaSuS: Why are you doing dist-upgrade?12:53
PeGaSuSbecause I've always did that to update/upgrade to the latest packages?12:54
PeGaSuSor am I wrong?12:54
PeGaSuSnteodosio: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    20 Apr  2 14:40 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 -> libkeyutils.so.1.9 AND -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22600 Feb 28  2022 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1.912:55
pragmaticenigmaPeGaSuS: unless you have a really strong need to, no, generally plain upgrade is what you want. Apt will tell you what is being held back and if you really need those updates, they re-run with dist-upgrade.12:56
nteodosioBut when you reinstall the package it points somewhere else, right? Juding by the size in the dpkg error message.12:56
PeGaSuSnteodosio: no, it points to the same place (the symlink)12:57
pragmaticenigmaPeGaSuS: I don't think you're telling use the whole picture. You mentioned compiling weechat, which kind of makes me wonder if you installed or changed something else manually long ago and forgot about it12:57
sybaritenTabmow: thank you. What i'm a bit unsure about, though, is what they mean with a release being "maintained" or "standard supported". For someone who's not into OS development that might be a bit unclear. (and i'd say maybe it could be explained better from that page)12:58
PeGaSuSI didn't change anything. I just installed the libs neeeded to weechat like 1y ago12:59
PeGaSuSand it worked flawlessly until like a month ago, where the `file too short` error appeared13:00
PeGaSuSWeeChat dependencies are here: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#dependencies13:00
Tabmowsybariten, need to do some clicking and reading :) https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle13:01
nteodosioI can only imagine the symlink points to different locations before and after your deletion and re-creation of it, right?13:01
PeGaSuSnteodosio: no. it points to the exact same location13:01
nteodosioWow then I'm stumped.13:02
nteodosioDid you open a bug report for keyutils, PeGaSuS?13:03
nteodosioI'd suggest so if not.13:03
nteodosioAlso what triggers that ld error in the first place.13:04
PeGaSuSI didn't. and I have on how to do it or what to provide13:04
PeGaSuSI didn't. and I have no idea on how to do it or what to provide*13:04
nteodosioYou can do "ubuntu-bug keyutils" or go directly through LP interface: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keyutils/+filebug13:05
nteodosioI'd suggest to provide what you already provided so far and also what is prompting the ld error in the first place.13:05
PeGaSuSthis is what happens after I try to `--reinstall`: https://0bin.xyz/raw/Y6SNCCNMLDUOQKHN4HN54JGHFI13:06
nteodosioYeah do include that, that warning is probably apropos but I'm not capable to understand where that 20 is comming from.13:08
PeGaSuSI suppose that the package is libekeyutils1?13:10
PeGaSuSlibkeyutils1*13:10
nteodosioPeGaSuS, that is provided the source package keyutils as reported by apt showsrc libkeyutils1.13:11
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PeGaSuShttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keyutils/+bug/2060034 -- bug report13:18
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2060034 in keyutils (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/ld: error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1: file too short" [Undecided, New]13:18
sybaritenTabmow: that was a bit more information indeed, yes!  :)   I have to say it's still a bit of a grey area for me who makes sure that software (for doing apt install) exists on the right servers etc - do I as a developer decide that something should be part of Ubuntus software selection, or are there ubuntu people that choose software and upload it to servers?13:27
pragmaticenigmasybariten: if you are writing software, you'd be contributing to the community maintained repository. There's steps that you need to complete to contribute13:31
sybaritenAha okay13:32
RikMillssybariten: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages13:34
pragmaticenigmasybariten: with many distros leveraging newer software distribution channels, you may want to consider developing your application for distribution the Snaps, Flatpaks, or AppImages13:35
pragmaticenigma*for distribution using Snaps, Flatpaks, or AppImages13:35
sybaritenpragmaticenigma: ok, no its not about me really, it was more about trying to understand why certain software is available via apt get in a certain ubuntu, and why some software isn't. Well, or snap for that matter.13:38
pragmaticenigmasybariten: maybe this will help with that? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu13:40
sybaritenThank you13:40
Guest92hi, need some help here. does the following mean the nvidia driver is not found? https://dpaste.com/FTPEUMKPX13:43
lotuspsychjeGuest92: you missed the i in nvidia-smi typo13:45
Guest92oh lol13:45
lotuspsychjeGuest92: the nvidia driver are also available for your card by default on ubuntu, ubuntu-drivers list to see13:46
Guest92lotuspsychje do you know what the diff is between  sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-535 and sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-550 nvidia-utils-55013:46
Guest92?13:46
lotuspsychjeGuest92: unless you needed a manual cuda setup?13:46
Guest92lotuspsychje does it mean i dont need sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-535 ?13:47
Guest92i tried to install nvidia container toolkit and thought i need cuda driver and nvidia gpu driver...?13:48
lotuspsychjeGuest92: tell us what you want to do first, use the internal ubuntu drivers or do you need cuda or latest nvidia drivers?13:48
lotuspsychjeif you dont really need cuda, i would reccomend to stick you ubuntu default nvidia drivers13:48
Guest92i try to install tensorrt-llm ...13:48
Guest92would that still need to require to run the following? sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-53513:49
Guest92as i understand you you said its pre-installed?13:49
lotuspsychjeGuest92: ubuntu should load the nvidia driver module by default yeah13:50
lotuspsychjeGuest92: check sudo lshw -C video to see if driver is installed correctly13:51
lotuspsychjeGuest92: and ubuntu-drivers list, to see your available drivers you can choose from13:52
Guest92ok one sec. hopefully i didnt mess it up13:53
Guest92lotuspsychje https://dpaste.com/42BXB9M5A13:54
Guest92used a ec2 instance.13:54
lotuspsychjeGuest92: looks like drivers are loaded, just the amazon one says unclaimed13:57
Guest92what does unclaimed mean? whats the diff between nvidia-driver-550 and nvidia-driver-535 ?13:59
lotuspsychjeGuest92: unclaimed means driver is not loaded, the versions are different, 550 is latest14:01
Guest92is 550 what i currently use?14:02
lotuspsychjeGuest92: nvidia-smi to check14:02
Guest92also what is nvidia-driver-550-server  and  nvidia-driver-550-open ?14:03
Guest92lotuspsychje where you see from here what driver it uses? https://dpaste.com/B6WNTU4UC14:05
Guest92oh wow: NVIDIA-SMI 535.161.08             Driver Version: 535.161.08   CUDA Version: 12.214:05
lotuspsychjeyep, you found it14:05
Guest92how to change to 550?14:05
leftyfbGuest92: why? Are you having issues with your video?14:06
Guest92no just wondering14:06
Guest92llooks like 535 is from Jul 31, 202314:07
leftyfbdon't fix what isn't broken14:07
lotuspsychjeGuest92: usualy your system will pick the most reccomended driver by default14:07
Guest92but i also have 550 driver it seems14:08
Guest92why didnt it pick it up?14:08
lotuspsychjeGuest92: latest drivers are not specificly the most reccomended ones for yor card model14:09
Guest92ubuntu-drivers list...14:09
Guest92so ubuntu decides to pick 535 or 550 automatically?14:09
Guest92or was it because i run install before? sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-535 nvidia-utils-53514:09
lotuspsychjei agree with leftyfb , if you not heavy gaming and specialy need 550, leave it14:09
lotuspsychjeGuest92: you can also switch drivers GUI from software&sources tab additional drivers easy14:10
Guest92how to do it in terminal?14:10
Guest92im on ec2 instance - no gui :D14:11
lotuspsychjesudo apt install your-driver14:11
leftyfbthen why do you need the nvidia drivers?14:11
Guest92and intall the 535 driver?14:11
Guest92for tensorrt-llm14:11
Guest92i assumed i need them - maybe im wrong14:11
lotuspsychjeare you following a guide Guest92 ?14:11
Guest92yes: they say install https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/install-guide.html before14:12
Guest92and i thought i need to install cuda and drivers14:13
Guest92i just tested tensorrt-llm - works fine with small sample14:13
Guest92looks like i dont need cuda drivers and nvidia drivers - not sure14:13
lotuspsychjei havent installed the nvidia container myself, maybe someone else can advice on that14:14
ice9is there a way to connect Android tablet to linux laptop through cable or directr wifi connection, not through the network?16:48
ice9to use the tablet as extended monitor16:49
leftyfbice9: that would be a question for #android since software would need to run on the device in order to be detected as a monitor16:50
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Bendalfпривет19:10
mkoumy screen either gets locked or I am getting locked out, no matter what I configure in the Settings menu. Is there a away to set Ubuntu to never locks the screen and never log out from the session?19:10
bprompt!ru | Bendalf19:10
ubottuBendalf: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:10
bpromptmkou: does this help -> https://linuxconfig.org/disable-turn-off-lock-screen-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux ?19:12
mkoubprompt, thank you, no it does not help19:13
pragmaticenigmamkou: check in the power settings... I think there is a toggle in there too19:17
mkouI've checked any possible GUI  setting19:18
pragmaticenigmahave any screen saver packages been installed?19:18
pragmaticenigmalike xscreensaver or something?19:18
mkouno such packs installed19:19
mkoujust a fresh ubuntu install19:19
pragmaticenigmaany pending updates waiting to be installed?19:20
mkouonly the annoying updates of the PRO version19:20
pragmaticenigmamkou: try this. make a new user, then logout of your user and into the new user. make only the changes to the screensaver lock settings and see if the problem persists in the new user account.19:24
pragmaticenigmascreensaver lock => screen lock19:24
mkouwhy]19:27
mkouhow the new user settings affect my current user, are you wondering whether there is some config file that might be messed up?19:28
pragmaticenigmaexactly19:28
mkouok,do you know which config files might be associated with the screen and privacy settings?19:29
pragmaticenigmai don't unfortunately19:31
pragmaticenigmathe only other thing I can suggest is log out and back into the current session to see if it's just a persistant setting that needs to be cleared19:32
bpromptmkou: may we ask, how does the problem present itself?   I mean, when?  you just to go the kitchen for a lemonade, and poof, is locked?19:33
pragmaticenigma"current session" should be "current user"19:33
mkoubprompt, yes, and it is random, sometimes its 15 minutes, sometimes is 1 hour, other time is after a day19:33
mkoumy screen just get either locked, blanked, the pc gets suspended and so on19:34
mkou*laptop, not pc. And I never leave it unplugged19:34
bpromptmkou: hmmm sounds like videocard drivers issue, maybe a quick reinstall of them may give it a whirl19:39
mkouok, thanks19:40
mkoudo you know any config files worth checking?19:40
bpromptmkou: no offhand19:42
mkouno problem, thanks anyway19:42
Liviaoi20:00
iconoclast_herohi, i have a dell latitude and the Home/WiFi off button causes a very slow crash where I have to use sysreq to reboot20:03
iconoclast_heroessentially I can't turn networking back on and because of that other things stop working.  those things probably need to get fixed, but the question is this:20:04
iconoclast_herohow do I know what that key is doing and, more to the point, knowing that, how can I change or disable it so it doesn't do that anymore?20:04
iconoclast_heroubunut 22.04 gnome 43?20:05
iconoclast_herognome 42.920:05
iconoclast_heroi get some fun messages in the control center where gnome basically says that networking has been turmed off and it can't do anything about it.20:06
iconoclast_heroreversing the key combo doesn't seem to help, can't seem to get it to reboot, possibly because of the nfs mounts causing an issue with shutdown scripts.20:07
iconoclast_heroso ctrl-alt-sysreq eventually gets me to whatever sort of reboot that is...it's clearly not a normal/soft reboot20:07
bprompticonoclast_hero: hmmm well, I had issues with the powerbutton myself a long time ago, first thing I did was to remap it, let me find the file20:10
bprompticonoclast_hero: editing the keys at /etc/systemd/logind.conf is what worked for my powerbutton, I assume you may have one for the WIFI there20:14
bprompticonoclast_hero: that said, on newer systems, you "disable" or "turn off" the "special keys" in the UEFI/CMOS menu20:15
iconoclast_heroabsolutely cannot part with my volume keys.20:16
iconoclast_herohttps://pastebin.com/raw/6zhNdC9E20:17
iconoclast_herothey're all commented out ...20:17
topcat001iconoclast_hero: journalctl -f and press the button.20:17
iconoclast_heroi ran `$ systemd-analyze cat-config systemd/logind.conf`20:17
iconoclast_heroany thoughts about how to restart the internet?20:18
topcat001My guess is that you have a Qualcomm chip and probably the firmware (or less likely the athxxx driver) crashes20:18
iconoclast_heroit's been a long time since i used rfkill20:18
topcat001in which case you need to rmmod and then modprobe the module (or reboot)20:19
iconoclast_herohere's what i normally do20:19
iconoclast_hero  screen bash -c 'sudo nmcli networking off; /usr/bin/sleep 1s; sudo nmcli networking on; exit'20:20
iconoclast_heroand that just hangs.20:20
iconoclast_heroso how do rmmod an modprobe work, do i need to find that driver?20:21
iconoclast_heroi mean i can just write a script that restarts those too...20:21
iconoclast_heroi don't have to fix the key.20:21
remaI set up a cronjob with "crontab -e". The output of "systemctl status cron.service" says "Active: active (running)". The cronjob is "0 * * * * /usr/bin/curl someurl >> somelogfile". The logfile is never written (never = at least since a week not). When I save the line "* * * * * env >> /tmp/env.output" I get the output of env. What could be the reason?20:27
tomreynsomelogfile may not be writable by the user running the crontab20:31
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iconoclast_herohttps://pastebin.com/raw/0R7pL4Uf20:38
iconoclast_heroit seems like the last four lines where i pressed the button the second time to toggle it back on is where the problem is.20:40
iconoclast_herofailed to set airplanemode properly20:40
iconoclast_herounknown key pressed20:40
iconoclast_herouse 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known20:40
tomreyniwlwifi, the intel wireless module ran into an 'oops'20:40
iconoclast_herowhich is odd since it knew what it was when i turned airplane mode on.20:40
iconoclast_heroi did just grep that log to see if oops was in there.20:41
iconoclast_heroso any recommendations from the collected wisdom here assembled?  either to disable the key since i'm not flying much and don't need it or to make it do what it's supposed to do without 'oops'?20:42
bprompticonoclast_hero: well, my powerbutton is inconveniently just above my keypad, thus I disabled it, too much keying around it to have it trigger on click in the running OS20:45
tomreyni think i have previously pointed out that this bios is veeeery outdated20:45
bpromptand I have no much use for my "special keys" and I use my F-keys much more20:45
tomreynhttps://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=wg9w9&oscode=wt64a&productcode=latitude-13-7390-2-in-1-laptop20:47
tomreyn1.34.0 is current, you have BIOS 1.10.0 07/04/201920:47
bprompt2019 isn't that old, 2009 would be old20:50
bpromptisn't very new, but isn't old either20:50
tomreynwell, it's 5years older than the current, 24 releases behind20:51
bpromptwell, I've seen older machines work perfectly fine, even with new OSes, slow but fine20:53
iconoclast_heropointed out to me that the bios was outdated?20:54
iconoclast_herook, i can address that.20:54
iconoclast_heroand that's going to fix the communication between what i assume is some sort of hardware key and the OS?20:54
tomreyni would not know. there are the usual 'changelogs' for those bios releases linked on this page20:55
iconoclast_herobut is there some way to disable that key specificaly?  bprompt, i usually have the F keys live and use the Fn+ combo for the other functions, but insert's right next to it...20:59
tomreynusually those are controlled by bios, you won't be able to intercept them from the OS21:00
iconoclast_heroor is there some way to specifically try to reverse this?21:00
iconoclast_heroApr 02 16:25:40 latitude kernel: iwlwifi 0000:6c:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.21:00
bprompticonoclast_hero: mines are the other way around, the volume/brightness/wifi/so on/ keys are 1st with "special keys" enabled in the UEFI/CMOS, so I have to disable those, in order to have my F-keys first and those special ones with an [Fn] combination, but yes, they're disablable in UEFI/CMOS21:01
bpromptthose special keys aren't too special for me, I used it once in a blue moon21:02
bpromptthe F-keys I use them everyday21:02
iconoclast_heroi am thinking it might not matter if i can find the way to toggle that RF_KILL bit because I can't use sudo once that happens.21:02
iconoclast_hero`$ sudo su  ` hangs regardless of nfs mounts or not21:03
iconoclast_heroso it breaks something larger21:03
oerhekseliminate you out of date bios first?21:03
bprompticonoclast_hero: well, if you update the bios, worse case, you'd have an updated bios :)21:04
iconoclast_heroi'm not getting an MOTD about a HW update.21:05
iconoclast_heroSo i don't know how to do that and it's going to take me a bit.21:06
ElliriaHey there. I've been helping someone to troubleshoot a graphical issue with images in Firefox being dark. Many things were tried and all failed, but today he tried booting into the OS with a thumb drive and Firefox works fine there. He's thinking of trying a refresh from these instructions: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings21:06
ElliriaMozilla says, on that page, that your vitals get backed up as part of that, but can he back up the Firefox files manually and copy them in afterwards if anything goes wrong, or is that not necessary?21:07
iconoclast_heroit's an exe file?21:08
ElliriaAlso, if that doesn't work and he then creates a new profile in Firefox and that works, can he manually copy over bookmarks, etc.?21:09
oerheksElliria, rename the .mozilla folder ( hidden), and yes, you should be able to copy bookmarks.21:10
bpromptElliria: sure hmmm, all configurations are saved under ~/.config, I do that with hmm Opera browser and chrome21:10
tomreynnot with snaps21:10
oerheks.config and .cache does not hold mozilla stuff21:10
bpromptright, I was thinking of that21:11
tomreynah without snaps neither, right21:11
bpromptElliria: yeah, firefox may still be using the ~/.mozilla folder21:11
tomreynElliria: personally, i would instead (of 'refresh') create a new browser profile and test with that first of all.21:12
bpromptElliria: so firefox has all images being dark, how about other webbrowsers?  and the OS is working fine?21:13
ElliriaI recommended a fresh profile, but he saw the mention of the refresh in the Mozilla support page and asked if he ought to do that first. I've never done a refresh, but I'd be hesitant to trust Mozilla to protect my stuff, so I'd want to back it up.21:13
ElliriaChrome shows them fine and Firefox shows them fine if he boots from a thumb drive. I've put him through a ton of things to try and nothing worked, but the fact that it works fine from a thumb drive is a really good sign.21:13
ElliriaGraphics are fine everywhere else in the OS.21:14
bpromptElliria: firefox keep the profile under ~/.mozilla/firefox/SOME_FUNKY_NAME_OR_HASLIKE_NAME folder21:14
oerheksrename, it can easily be reversed21:14
tomreynthe path bprompt just posted is not correct if they're using a snap21:15
bpromptohhh right, snap is a concern21:15
tomreynwith snaps it sould be in ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla/firefox21:17
ElliriaOh, good to know. Thank you so much!21:17
ElliriaWe made good headway and I don't want to make him lose anything.21:17
bpromptElliria: mind you, isn't that some firefox extension doing all that?21:18
tomreynpersonally, i used the 'refresh' option once and i found this to be a misnomer - it removed more than i would have expected.21:18
bpromptElliria: I mean, the bug or issue in firefox is very esoteric21:19
ElliriaNope. He still had the issue in safe mode and safe mode disables those.21:19
tomreynthere's also troubleshoot mode (availabnle from the "Help" menu), which only temporarily disables all addons, but keeps user modified preferences. user modified preferences are listed at about:support21:20
tomreynah ok21:21
bpromptElliria: you know, you can download firefox from mozilla.com as a bzip2 file, just a compressed file, all you do is unzip and run it, from whatever directory you wish, it runs standalone, and it can do that next to another install of firefox, no conflicts since it's standalone21:21
ElliriaOh, interesting. That would be an additional diagnostic that could be done.21:23
ElliriaI had him run the firefox -safe-mode command. Is there a different one for troubleshoot mode?21:24
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bpromptElliria: sounds like the issue is his installation, as opposed to firefox itself per se, who knows, missing .so files or missing .js files21:25
tomreynElliria: i think the --safe-mode CLI option behaves identical to the "troubleshoot mode" menu option21:26
ElliriaYeah. I think we're about to figure it out with either the refresh or the new profile. If he creates a new profile and slowly copies his old files over into it, he could figure out exactly which one is bad.21:31
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chico_mkou: have you tried installing caffeine?21:41
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iconoclast_heroupdated bios; disabled the wifi key to do any of the 4 options there; button still buttons, system still unresponsive, is this a bug and if so, should i bother until after upgrading from 22.04 shortly?21:55
bprompt22.04?  downgrading? =)21:56
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iconoclast_herochanging21:56
bprompticonoclast_hero: I looked around, it doesn't seem to be a widely spread issue, so doesn't seem to be a bug per se21:58
ice9some apps icons like yubikey authenticator are displayed as the default gear icon as shown in the screenshot, how to fix this in order to show the right app icon?   https://pasteboard.co/aKaMBRawNXnC.png21:59
bprompticonoclast_hero: cheap answer, remap or disable the key :)21:59
garrettkajmowiczHow do I get my system to stop trying to load X11/wayland/whatever? I need to disable nouveau and the display keeps trying to restart X11 and interrupting my typing.22:00
iconoclast_heroi thought we agreed it couldn't be remapped since it's being grabbed by bios?22:01
iconoclast_herogarrettkajmowicz: did you try ctrl alt F5?22:02
iconoclast_heroctrl-alt f2 or f1 to get back22:02
iconoclast_herodoes anything else use rfkill?  can i just rename that?22:04
garrettkajmowiczYes. And X11-or-whatever keeps hijacking the physical display only to fail to initialize.22:04
iconoclast_heroi'm completely out of ideas.22:04
garrettkajmowiczI get about 50% of wallclock time where I can edit. With kernel log spam in the way.22:04
iconoclast_heromaybe try to disable your rc files that start up when the DE loads?22:05
iconoclast_heroin case something there's causing an issue22:05
* iconoclast_hero wasn't out of ideas.22:05
garrettkajmowiczShouldn't I be able to run some command to stop X11 so that I can manually edit the config files to disable nouveau in peace?22:05
iconoclast_heroyou're askin the wrong dude...  i think you should be able to do everything like that.22:06
iconoclast_herothings rarely work the way i want though.22:07
leftyfbgarrettkajmowicz: sudo systemctl stop gdm22:07
garrettkajmowiczleftyfb: No dice.22:08
leftyfbgarrettkajmowicz: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target   # then reboot22:09
bprompticonoclast_hero:  hmmmm tried remapping it or "trapping" it using something like "autokey" maybe?22:09
garrettkajmowiczI don't want to permanently stop execution. Just for now so I can edit to disable the nouveau trash.22:12
leftyfbgarrettkajmowicz: great, then when you are done making your changes, run sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target22:13
iconoclast_herowhere does multi-user.target drop you?  a cli?22:20
garrettkajmowiczI managed to disable the driver and reboot. I'm now not finding an easy way to install the NVidea driver. How do I tell it to install the correct version for the kernel I have installed?22:26
leftyfb!nvidia | garrettkajmowicz22:27
ubottugarrettkajmowicz: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers22:27
garrettkajmowicznouveau crashes all the time!22:28
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garrettkajmowiczOkay. Now working. I have no idea why the upgrade through aptitude broke everything, but I'm up and running again.22:41
leftyfbgarrettkajmowicz: aptitude has been known to cause problems22:42
quidnuncHow do I abort a pending dpkg configure without uninstalling the offending package?23:39
quidnunc(abort configuring a package that is in the "pending" configuration state in dpkg)23:39
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