[00:34] <Guest92> hi, how can i fix the following apt-get error? https://dpaste.com/54LKKQT3J
[00:45] <Guest92> re
[00:46] <leftyfb> Guest92: curl -sSL "https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x511367CACD0EDF6B" | sudo gpg --dearmor --output /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/nvidia.gpg --yes
[00:46] <Guest92> leftyfb what does that do?
[00:46] <leftyfb> fixes your error
[00:47] <Guest92> if i open https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x511367CACD0EDF6B ... it says not found
[00:48] <leftyfb> Guest92: ok, then you'll need to contact Nvidia doe support with their repository
[00:48] <Guest92> hm...
[00:48] <leftyfb> Guest92: I would recommend just sticking with the nvidia drivers available in the ubuntu repositories
[00:48] <leftyfb> !nvidia | Guest92
[00:49] <Guest92> i just need a nvidia driver for the machine here... i went to the website to get it
[00:49] <Guest92> how can i undo the sudo dpkg -i nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb ?
[00:50] <Guest92> and how can i find a similar one in ubuntu repo?
[00:50] <leftyfb> try sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204
[00:50] <leftyfb> Guest92: follow the instructions that ubottu gave you
[00:50] <Guest92> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204
[00:51] <Guest92> ^^ sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204
[00:51] <leftyfb> try sudo apt remove  nvidia-driver-local-repo*
[00:51] <Guest92> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb
[00:52] <leftyfb> Guest92: apt list installed nvidia-driver-local*
[00:52] <leftyfb> what does that give you?
[00:53] <Guest92> https://dpaste.com/DNUYBREK4
[00:53] <leftyfb> ok, it's not installed
[00:53] <leftyfb> remove the repository to added
[00:53] <Guest92> yeah not installed - just broken apt-get update
[00:54] <Guest92> sudo sudo dpkg -r nvidia-driver-local-repo-ubuntu2204-550.54.15_1.0-1_amd64.deb ?
[00:54] <leftyfb> sudo grep -R nvidia /etc/apt/sources*   # what does this give you?
[00:55] <Guest92> https://dpaste.com/AY8NU6UE3
[00:57] <leftyfb> sudo rm -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{nvidia-*,cuda-ubuntu*}
[00:58] <Guest92> does that also remove nvidia-container-toolkit?
[00:59] <Guest92> and codua?
[00:59] <Guest92> should it keep that?
[00:59] <leftyfb> it does
[00:59] <Guest92> souldnt i not keep that?
[00:59] <leftyfb> why do you need it?
[00:59] <Guest92> i need ot install nvidia-toolkit later
[00:59] <Guest92> or maybe already installed it - dont remember
[01:00] <leftyfb> ok, then feel free to pick and choose the repositories you want to keep vs remove
[01:00] <leftyfb> definitely remove /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-driver-local-ubuntu2204-550.54.15.list
[01:01] <Guest92> sudo rm -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-driver-local-ubuntu2204-550.54.15.list ...
[01:02] <Guest92> leftyfb how can i now install the nvidia driver from ubuntu source?
[01:02] <leftyfb> !nvidia | Guest92
[01:05] <Guest92> sudo apt install nvidia-utils-510 sudo apt install nvidia-utils-510-server ... is that a driver i can use?
[01:06] <Guest92> looks like that one i found was 550.54.15.
[01:08] <Guest92> looks like i can just do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa sudo apt update ... than: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-550 ... leftyfb
[01:08] <leftyfb> Guest92: good luck. I have to head out now
[01:09] <Guest92> leftyfb lmk if im on the wrong track :)
[01:09] <live> ;
[01:10] <Guest92> oh: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-550
[01:10] <Guest92> oh its called: nvidia-graphics-drivers-550 - 550.67-0ubuntu0~gpu24.04.1
[01:11] <Guest92> no
[01:13] <Guest92> looks like there are many packages
[01:13] <Guest92> which one is the actual driver?
[01:26] <sarnold> Guest92: I haven't followed along, but it's usually best to just run ubuntu-drivers and let it sort everything out
[01:27] <Guest92> i saw nvidia page:
[01:27] <Guest92> https://docs.nvidia.com/metropolis/deepstream/dev-guide/text/DS_Quickstart.html#dgpu-setup-for-ubuntu
[01:27] <Guest92> what you think of this install?
[01:28] <Guest92> than: https://docs.nvidia.com/metropolis/deepstream/dev-guide/text/DS_Quickstart.html#install-nvidia-driver-535-104-12
[01:28] <Guest92> it seems they suggest running this run file
[01:28] <sarnold> ah, if you're using some weird drivers then you might be better suited to ask them questions
[01:32] <Guest92> sarnold here is waht i currently see : https://dpaste.com/GVF8RUL4U
[01:32] <Guest92> does it mean i need to install the nvidia-utils-510 ?
[01:34] <sarnold> Guest92: hah, maybe fix those permissions errors?
[01:35] <Guest92> how?
[01:35] <Guest92> chmod 666 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-container-toolkit.list ?
[01:35] <Guest92> chmod 0644 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-container-toolkit.list ?
[01:36] <Guest92> ok that fixed it
[01:36] <Guest92> now i just see Command 'nvidia-sm' not found, did you mean:
[01:37] <Guest92> i tried before: sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-550 nvidia-utils-550
[01:37] <Guest92> but that seems was not the right driver
[01:40] <Guest92> i try 535...
[01:40] <Guest92> *** Reboot your computer and verify that the NVIDIA graphics driver can   ***
[01:40] <Guest92> *** be loaded.
[06:33] <AfaqCUCKBI> hi
[06:34] <AfaqCUCKBI> any muslim married men
[06:34] <Unit193> Wrong channel, AfaqCUCKBI.
[06:34] <AfaqCUCKBI> can u point me to right dir
[06:35] <AfaqCUCKBI> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:35] <Unit193> Not really a place to look for hookups or whatnot.  This is for Ubuntu linux technical support.
[08:09] <Guest24> hi, I am running ubuntu 23.10. I used microphone once and then the top right notification panel will show audio input (microphone) icon. But after I stop using the microphone, the microphone icon is still there. Does it mean the microphone is still in use? Is that possible to turn the microphone icon off since I am not using it right now. Thanks a
[08:09] <Guest24> lot. (the default ubuntu release with gnome I guess).
[10:52] <HOLASOYJAIME> i havent used ubuntu since unity. is gnome shell good?
[10:54] <HOLASOYJAIME> looks like this chat is full of CIA glowyies
[11:06] <monty_hall> I've heard about "xz" trojan horse.  I see that I have "xz-utils" installed. Do I uninstall?
[11:07] <ravage_> no released version of Ubuntu is affected by that xz backdoor
[11:07] <ogra_> monty_hall, only if you run the unreleased development version of the upcoming 24.04
[11:08] <ogra_> (and even there it should have already been rolled back, the affected version was only available for less than 1h in the archive)
[11:12] <Unit193> In Debian #1068024 there's some discussion as to if it's been rolled back enough, but yet again the LTS isn't affected by that even.  IIRC.
[11:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 1068024 in xz-utils "revert to version that does not contain changes by bad actor" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1068024
[11:14] <ogra_> right, in ubuntu it has already been rolled back anyway ...
[11:15] <ogra_> (to two versions before or some such)
[11:15] <Unit193> ogra_: Which still has some commits by that person, but so far looks fine enough.
[11:15] <ogra_> the prob is that there are tons of packages using xz and they have been re-built with the broken one so all these are currently re-building against the older version again
[11:16] <Unit193> Is that entangled in t64 too?
[11:16] <ogra_> (and the archive being rather inconsistent thanks to t64 is not helping with that)
[11:17] <ogra_> not directly. but indirectly due to borken dependencies because of time_t64
[11:17] <Unit193> \o/
[11:17] <RikMills> t64 transition migrated, but only by allowing some uninstallability on armhf
[11:18] <Unit193> Gotcha, nice.
[11:18] <ogra_> right, only uninstallability of armhf ... but the package transition between proposed and the archive doesnt look at arches ...
[11:19] <ogra_> so other arches are affected too as a side effect
[11:19] <RikMills> depends if archive admins do again what they did for t64. i.e. enabled break-archs in britney for armhf
[11:20] <ogra_> (it's a giant mess ... had you asked me, we should have done the time_t64 stuff last release)
[11:20] <Unit193> Most certainly.
[11:20] <RikMills> so extra problems in armhf don't hold the rest back
[11:20] <ogra_> i mean, nobody could predict the xz mess that adds on top here ... but still
[11:21] <RikMills> t64 should have been done a few months ago IIRC, but got delayed
[11:21] <ogra_> yep ...
[11:21] <ogra_> either way, we should move to #ubuntu-discuss if we want to keep discussing this 🙂
[11:21] <ogra_> (or to -next)
[11:21] <Unit193> (also usrmove)
[11:21] <RikMills> yes, we should
[11:23] <bmbbsr> Hi is Stani's Python editor SPE no longer in the Repros ?
[11:25] <bmbbsr> this new Phyton Ediutors are around 300MB of code while stanis has been 5Mn
[11:27] <ogra_> i think that was never ported to python3, was it ?
[11:27] <RikMills> seems not https://i.imgur.com/NYUHos0.png
[11:29] <ogra_> yeah, so dropped in debian too
[11:29] <bmbbsr> so  id must go to a LARGE Editor for simple code or just make it Gedit/Vim
[11:29] <ogra_> or ask stanis to not use an EOLed python version 😉
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> his ppa and blog seems to be very outdated too
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> https://launchpad.net/~stani/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:30] <bmbbsr> ogra_ is he still alive as of his age
[11:30] <ogra_> i dont even know who stanis is, no idea 🙂
[11:32] <bmbbsr> WHAT minimal Phython Editor Woudt you recoment for a Small Operating system
[11:34] <ogra_> dunno, i use vim ... but perhaps thonny ?
[11:35] <bmbbsr> eric or geany is the Numbers that are very low in the Phython editor listings
[11:35] <ogra_> whatever suits you
[11:35] <ogra_> try them out
[11:36] <bmbbsr> thank you
[12:17] <imi> was ubuntu jammy LST at any point vulnerable to the recent xz backdoor?
[12:17] <imi> *LTS
[12:19] <pragmaticenigma> imi: no
[12:27] <sybariten> Salut
[12:30] <sybariten> fundamental question: terms like chatgpt will typically "never" appear in an apt-search on a ubuntu v22, given that those things started getting a lot of traction last year, and thus ubuntu version is way older than that (and doesnt get newer software in apt) .....  right?
[12:31] <sybariten> (true assumption, or completely wrong?)
[12:31] <sybariten> s/thus/this
[12:32] <Tabmow> Wrong, new packages/versions of software get made for 'old' version of ubuntu. Especially LTS releases.
[12:33] <pragmaticenigma> sybariten: If a package exists in the configured repositories for your installation, it will appear in the listing.
[12:35] <sybariten> Tabmow: pragmaticenigma: OK i was completely wrong then. I thought there was an element of "locking" the distro, until theres a new release
[12:36] <Tabmow> That does happen at a certain point... but as long as you are using a supported release version then generally most packages will be supported in one way or another.
[12:41] <PeGaSuS> I don't like to cross post, but I'n on a dead end: so, I'm still facing the `/usr/bin/ld: error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1: file too short` issue. if I delete the file and create the symlinkl manually all works fine until the next upgrade
[12:43] <pragmaticenigma> dead end? sounds like a broken install and one that I would just wipe and start over
[12:44] <PeGaSuS> how can it be a broken install? it worked for long time with the same packages it has installed now
[12:45] <PeGaSuS> if I try to `apt install --reinstall libkeyutils1` I get: dpkg: warning: symbolic link '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1' size has changed from 20 to 18
[12:45] <nteodosio> PeGaSuS, I don't know the context, but did you already try  apt install --reinstall libkeyutils1?
[12:46] <nteodosio> Nevermind, a few seconds too late.
[12:46] <PeGaSuS> and it is still broken. smartctl shows no issues with the disk (apparently)
[12:47] <nteodosio> What release is that?
[12:47] <PeGaSuS> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[12:51] <sybariten> Tabmow: would you mind explaining that last comment a bit further or rather dumbed down? I'm on v22, which i believe is also called LTS for "long term support", right?
[12:52] <nteodosio> PeGaSuS, what is 'ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1*'?
[12:52] <Tabmow> sybariten, https://www.releases.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <PeGaSuS> all was working perfectly and all of a sudden I did `apt update && apt dist-upgrade`, went to recompile WeeChat from source qnd faced that issue. I tried the `--reinstall` first to no avail. then I played dangerously and removed the symlink and recreated it manually. it worked until I did some `apt update && apt dist-upgrade` and then today when tried to recompile WeeChat again, I hit the wall
[12:53] <PeGaSuS> again. once again, I removed and recreated the symlink manually
[12:53] <pragmaticenigma> PeGaSuS: Why are you doing dist-upgrade?
[12:54] <PeGaSuS> because I've always did that to update/upgrade to the latest packages?
[12:54] <PeGaSuS> or am I wrong?
[12:55] <PeGaSuS> nteodosio: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    20 Apr  2 14:40 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 -> libkeyutils.so.1.9 AND -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22600 Feb 28  2022 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1.9
[12:56] <pragmaticenigma> PeGaSuS: unless you have a really strong need to, no, generally plain upgrade is what you want. Apt will tell you what is being held back and if you really need those updates, they re-run with dist-upgrade.
[12:56] <nteodosio> But when you reinstall the package it points somewhere else, right? Juding by the size in the dpkg error message.
[12:57] <PeGaSuS> nteodosio: no, it points to the same place (the symlink)
[12:57] <pragmaticenigma> PeGaSuS: I don't think you're telling use the whole picture. You mentioned compiling weechat, which kind of makes me wonder if you installed or changed something else manually long ago and forgot about it
[12:58] <sybariten> Tabmow: thank you. What i'm a bit unsure about, though, is what they mean with a release being "maintained" or "standard supported". For someone who's not into OS development that might be a bit unclear. (and i'd say maybe it could be explained better from that page)
[12:59] <PeGaSuS> I didn't change anything. I just installed the libs neeeded to weechat like 1y ago
[13:00] <PeGaSuS> and it worked flawlessly until like a month ago, where the `file too short` error appeared
[13:00] <PeGaSuS> WeeChat dependencies are here: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#dependencies
[13:01] <Tabmow> sybariten, need to do some clicking and reading :) https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[13:01] <nteodosio> I can only imagine the symlink points to different locations before and after your deletion and re-creation of it, right?
[13:01] <PeGaSuS> nteodosio: no. it points to the exact same location
[13:02] <nteodosio> Wow then I'm stumped.
[13:03] <nteodosio> Did you open a bug report for keyutils, PeGaSuS?
[13:03] <nteodosio> I'd suggest so if not.
[13:04] <nteodosio> Also what triggers that ld error in the first place.
[13:04] <PeGaSuS> I didn't. and I have on how to do it or what to provide
[13:04] <PeGaSuS> I didn't. and I have no idea on how to do it or what to provide*
[13:05] <nteodosio> You can do "ubuntu-bug keyutils" or go directly through LP interface: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keyutils/+filebug
[13:05] <nteodosio> I'd suggest to provide what you already provided so far and also what is prompting the ld error in the first place.
[13:06] <PeGaSuS> this is what happens after I try to `--reinstall`: https://0bin.xyz/raw/Y6SNCCNMLDUOQKHN4HN54JGHFI
[13:08] <nteodosio> Yeah do include that, that warning is probably apropos but I'm not capable to understand where that 20 is comming from.
[13:10] <PeGaSuS> I suppose that the package is libekeyutils1?
[13:10] <PeGaSuS> libkeyutils1*
[13:11] <nteodosio> PeGaSuS, that is provided the source package keyutils as reported by apt showsrc libkeyutils1.
[13:18] <PeGaSuS> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keyutils/+bug/2060034 -- bug report
[13:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2060034 in keyutils (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/ld: error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1: file too short" [Undecided, New]
[13:27] <sybariten> Tabmow: that was a bit more information indeed, yes!  :)   I have to say it's still a bit of a grey area for me who makes sure that software (for doing apt install) exists on the right servers etc - do I as a developer decide that something should be part of Ubuntus software selection, or are there ubuntu people that choose software and upload it to servers?
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> sybariten: if you are writing software, you'd be contributing to the community maintained repository. There's steps that you need to complete to contribute
[13:32] <sybariten> Aha okay
[13:34] <RikMills> sybariten: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> sybariten: with many distros leveraging newer software distribution channels, you may want to consider developing your application for distribution the Snaps, Flatpaks, or AppImages
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> *for distribution using Snaps, Flatpaks, or AppImages
[13:38] <sybariten> pragmaticenigma: ok, no its not about me really, it was more about trying to understand why certain software is available via apt get in a certain ubuntu, and why some software isn't. Well, or snap for that matter.
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> sybariten: maybe this will help with that? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[13:40] <sybariten> Thank you
[13:43] <Guest92> hi, need some help here. does the following mean the nvidia driver is not found? https://dpaste.com/FTPEUMKPX
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: you missed the i in nvidia-smi typo
[13:45] <Guest92> oh lol
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: the nvidia driver are also available for your card by default on ubuntu, ubuntu-drivers list to see
[13:46] <Guest92> lotuspsychje do you know what the diff is between  sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-535 and sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-550 nvidia-utils-550
[13:46] <Guest92> ?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: unless you needed a manual cuda setup?
[13:47] <Guest92> lotuspsychje does it mean i dont need sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-535 ?
[13:48] <Guest92> i tried to install nvidia container toolkit and thought i need cuda driver and nvidia gpu driver...?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: tell us what you want to do first, use the internal ubuntu drivers or do you need cuda or latest nvidia drivers?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> if you dont really need cuda, i would reccomend to stick you ubuntu default nvidia drivers
[13:48] <Guest92> i try to install tensorrt-llm ...
[13:49] <Guest92> would that still need to require to run the following? sudo apt install nvidia-535 nvidia-driver-535
[13:49] <Guest92> as i understand you you said its pre-installed?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: ubuntu should load the nvidia driver module by default yeah
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: check sudo lshw -C video to see if driver is installed correctly
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: and ubuntu-drivers list, to see your available drivers you can choose from
[13:53] <Guest92> ok one sec. hopefully i didnt mess it up
[13:54] <Guest92> lotuspsychje https://dpaste.com/42BXB9M5A
[13:54] <Guest92> used a ec2 instance.
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: looks like drivers are loaded, just the amazon one says unclaimed
[13:59] <Guest92> what does unclaimed mean? whats the diff between nvidia-driver-550 and nvidia-driver-535 ?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: unclaimed means driver is not loaded, the versions are different, 550 is latest
[14:02] <Guest92> is 550 what i currently use?
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: nvidia-smi to check
[14:03] <Guest92> also what is nvidia-driver-550-server  and  nvidia-driver-550-open ?
[14:05] <Guest92> lotuspsychje where you see from here what driver it uses? https://dpaste.com/B6WNTU4UC
[14:05] <Guest92> oh wow: NVIDIA-SMI 535.161.08             Driver Version: 535.161.08   CUDA Version: 12.2
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> yep, you found it
[14:05] <Guest92> how to change to 550?
[14:06] <leftyfb> Guest92: why? Are you having issues with your video?
[14:06] <Guest92> no just wondering
[14:07] <Guest92> llooks like 535 is from Jul 31, 2023
[14:07] <leftyfb> don't fix what isn't broken
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: usualy your system will pick the most reccomended driver by default
[14:08] <Guest92> but i also have 550 driver it seems
[14:08] <Guest92> why didnt it pick it up?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: latest drivers are not specificly the most reccomended ones for yor card model
[14:09] <Guest92> ubuntu-drivers list...
[14:09] <Guest92> so ubuntu decides to pick 535 or 550 automatically?
[14:09] <Guest92> or was it because i run install before? sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-535 nvidia-utils-535
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> i agree with leftyfb , if you not heavy gaming and specialy need 550, leave it
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest92: you can also switch drivers GUI from software&sources tab additional drivers easy
[14:10] <Guest92> how to do it in terminal?
[14:11] <Guest92> im on ec2 instance - no gui :D
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> sudo apt install your-driver
[14:11] <leftyfb> then why do you need the nvidia drivers?
[14:11] <Guest92> and intall the 535 driver?
[14:11] <Guest92> for tensorrt-llm
[14:11] <Guest92> i assumed i need them - maybe im wrong
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> are you following a guide Guest92 ?
[14:12] <Guest92> yes: they say install https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/install-guide.html before
[14:13] <Guest92> and i thought i need to install cuda and drivers
[14:13] <Guest92> i just tested tensorrt-llm - works fine with small sample
[14:13] <Guest92> looks like i dont need cuda drivers and nvidia drivers - not sure
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> i havent installed the nvidia container myself, maybe someone else can advice on that
[16:48] <ice9> is there a way to connect Android tablet to linux laptop through cable or directr wifi connection, not through the network?
[16:49] <ice9> to use the tablet as extended monitor
[16:50] <leftyfb> ice9: that would be a question for #android since software would need to run on the device in order to be detected as a monitor
[19:10] <Bendalf> привет
[19:10] <mkou> my screen either gets locked or I am getting locked out, no matter what I configure in the Settings menu. Is there a away to set Ubuntu to never locks the screen and never log out from the session?
[19:10] <bprompt> !ru | Bendalf
[19:12] <bprompt> mkou: does this help -> https://linuxconfig.org/disable-turn-off-lock-screen-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux ?
[19:13] <mkou> bprompt, thank you, no it does not help
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> mkou: check in the power settings... I think there is a toggle in there too
[19:18] <mkou> I've checked any possible GUI  setting
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> have any screen saver packages been installed?
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> like xscreensaver or something?
[19:19] <mkou> no such packs installed
[19:19] <mkou> just a fresh ubuntu install
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> any pending updates waiting to be installed?
[19:20] <mkou> only the annoying updates of the PRO version
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> mkou: try this. make a new user, then logout of your user and into the new user. make only the changes to the screensaver lock settings and see if the problem persists in the new user account.
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> screensaver lock => screen lock
[19:27] <mkou> why]
[19:28] <mkou> how the new user settings affect my current user, are you wondering whether there is some config file that might be messed up?
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> exactly
[19:29] <mkou> ok,do you know which config files might be associated with the screen and privacy settings?
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> i don't unfortunately
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> the only other thing I can suggest is log out and back into the current session to see if it's just a persistant setting that needs to be cleared
[19:33] <bprompt> mkou: may we ask, how does the problem present itself?   I mean, when?  you just to go the kitchen for a lemonade, and poof, is locked?
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> "current session" should be "current user"
[19:33] <mkou> bprompt, yes, and it is random, sometimes its 15 minutes, sometimes is 1 hour, other time is after a day
[19:34] <mkou> my screen just get either locked, blanked, the pc gets suspended and so on
[19:34] <mkou> *laptop, not pc. And I never leave it unplugged
[19:39] <bprompt> mkou: hmmm sounds like videocard drivers issue, maybe a quick reinstall of them may give it a whirl
[19:40] <mkou> ok, thanks
[19:40] <mkou> do you know any config files worth checking?
[19:42] <bprompt> mkou: no offhand
[19:42] <mkou> no problem, thanks anyway
[20:00] <Livia> oi
[20:03] <iconoclast_hero> hi, i have a dell latitude and the Home/WiFi off button causes a very slow crash where I have to use sysreq to reboot
[20:04] <iconoclast_hero> essentially I can't turn networking back on and because of that other things stop working.  those things probably need to get fixed, but the question is this:
[20:04] <iconoclast_hero> how do I know what that key is doing and, more to the point, knowing that, how can I change or disable it so it doesn't do that anymore?
[20:05] <iconoclast_hero> ubunut 22.04 gnome 43?
[20:05] <iconoclast_hero> gnome 42.9
[20:06] <iconoclast_hero> i get some fun messages in the control center where gnome basically says that networking has been turmed off and it can't do anything about it.
[20:07] <iconoclast_hero> reversing the key combo doesn't seem to help, can't seem to get it to reboot, possibly because of the nfs mounts causing an issue with shutdown scripts.
[20:07] <iconoclast_hero> so ctrl-alt-sysreq eventually gets me to whatever sort of reboot that is...it's clearly not a normal/soft reboot
[20:10] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: hmmm well, I had issues with the powerbutton myself a long time ago, first thing I did was to remap it, let me find the file
[20:14] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: editing the keys at /etc/systemd/logind.conf is what worked for my powerbutton, I assume you may have one for the WIFI there
[20:15] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: that said, on newer systems, you "disable" or "turn off" the "special keys" in the UEFI/CMOS menu
[20:16] <iconoclast_hero> absolutely cannot part with my volume keys.
[20:17] <iconoclast_hero> https://pastebin.com/raw/6zhNdC9E
[20:17] <iconoclast_hero> they're all commented out ...
[20:17] <topcat001> iconoclast_hero: journalctl -f and press the button.
[20:17] <iconoclast_hero> i ran `$ systemd-analyze cat-config systemd/logind.conf`
[20:18] <iconoclast_hero> any thoughts about how to restart the internet?
[20:18] <topcat001> My guess is that you have a Qualcomm chip and probably the firmware (or less likely the athxxx driver) crashes
[20:18] <iconoclast_hero> it's been a long time since i used rfkill
[20:19] <topcat001> in which case you need to rmmod and then modprobe the module (or reboot)
[20:19] <iconoclast_hero> here's what i normally do
[20:20] <iconoclast_hero>   screen bash -c 'sudo nmcli networking off; /usr/bin/sleep 1s; sudo nmcli networking on; exit'
[20:20] <iconoclast_hero> and that just hangs.
[20:21] <iconoclast_hero> so how do rmmod an modprobe work, do i need to find that driver?
[20:21] <iconoclast_hero> i mean i can just write a script that restarts those too...
[20:21] <iconoclast_hero> i don't have to fix the key.
[20:27] <rema> I set up a cronjob with "crontab -e". The output of "systemctl status cron.service" says "Active: active (running)". The cronjob is "0 * * * * /usr/bin/curl someurl >> somelogfile". The logfile is never written (never = at least since a week not). When I save the line "* * * * * env >> /tmp/env.output" I get the output of env. What could be the reason?
[20:31] <tomreyn> somelogfile may not be writable by the user running the crontab
[20:38] <iconoclast_hero> https://pastebin.com/raw/0R7pL4Uf
[20:40] <iconoclast_hero> it seems like the last four lines where i pressed the button the second time to toggle it back on is where the problem is.
[20:40] <iconoclast_hero> failed to set airplanemode properly
[20:40] <iconoclast_hero> unknown key pressed
[20:40] <iconoclast_hero> use 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known
[20:40] <tomreyn> iwlwifi, the intel wireless module ran into an 'oops'
[20:40] <iconoclast_hero> which is odd since it knew what it was when i turned airplane mode on.
[20:41] <iconoclast_hero> i did just grep that log to see if oops was in there.
[20:42] <iconoclast_hero> so any recommendations from the collected wisdom here assembled?  either to disable the key since i'm not flying much and don't need it or to make it do what it's supposed to do without 'oops'?
[20:45] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: well, my powerbutton is inconveniently just above my keypad, thus I disabled it, too much keying around it to have it trigger on click in the running OS
[20:45] <tomreyn> i think i have previously pointed out that this bios is veeeery outdated
[20:45] <bprompt> and I have no much use for my "special keys" and I use my F-keys much more
[20:47] <tomreyn> https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=wg9w9&oscode=wt64a&productcode=latitude-13-7390-2-in-1-laptop
[20:47] <tomreyn> 1.34.0 is current, you have BIOS 1.10.0 07/04/2019
[20:50] <bprompt> 2019 isn't that old, 2009 would be old
[20:50] <bprompt> isn't very new, but isn't old either
[20:51] <tomreyn> well, it's 5years older than the current, 24 releases behind
[20:53] <bprompt> well, I've seen older machines work perfectly fine, even with new OSes, slow but fine
[20:54] <iconoclast_hero> pointed out to me that the bios was outdated?
[20:54] <iconoclast_hero> ok, i can address that.
[20:54] <iconoclast_hero> and that's going to fix the communication between what i assume is some sort of hardware key and the OS?
[20:55] <tomreyn> i would not know. there are the usual 'changelogs' for those bios releases linked on this page
[20:59] <iconoclast_hero> but is there some way to disable that key specificaly?  bprompt, i usually have the F keys live and use the Fn+ combo for the other functions, but insert's right next to it...
[21:00] <tomreyn> usually those are controlled by bios, you won't be able to intercept them from the OS
[21:00] <iconoclast_hero> or is there some way to specifically try to reverse this?
[21:00] <iconoclast_hero> Apr 02 16:25:40 latitude kernel: iwlwifi 0000:6c:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio.
[21:01] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: mines are the other way around, the volume/brightness/wifi/so on/ keys are 1st with "special keys" enabled in the UEFI/CMOS, so I have to disable those, in order to have my F-keys first and those special ones with an [Fn] combination, but yes, they're disablable in UEFI/CMOS
[21:02] <bprompt> those special keys aren't too special for me, I used it once in a blue moon
[21:02] <bprompt> the F-keys I use them everyday
[21:02] <iconoclast_hero> i am thinking it might not matter if i can find the way to toggle that RF_KILL bit because I can't use sudo once that happens.
[21:03] <iconoclast_hero> `$ sudo su  ` hangs regardless of nfs mounts or not
[21:03] <iconoclast_hero> so it breaks something larger
[21:03] <oerheks> eliminate you out of date bios first?
[21:04] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: well, if you update the bios, worse case, you'd have an updated bios :)
[21:05] <iconoclast_hero> i'm not getting an MOTD about a HW update.
[21:06] <iconoclast_hero> So i don't know how to do that and it's going to take me a bit.
[21:06] <Elliria> Hey there. I've been helping someone to troubleshoot a graphical issue with images in Firefox being dark. Many things were tried and all failed, but today he tried booting into the OS with a thumb drive and Firefox works fine there. He's thinking of trying a refresh from these instructions: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings
[21:07] <Elliria> Mozilla says, on that page, that your vitals get backed up as part of that, but can he back up the Firefox files manually and copy them in afterwards if anything goes wrong, or is that not necessary?
[21:08] <iconoclast_hero> it's an exe file?
[21:09] <Elliria> Also, if that doesn't work and he then creates a new profile in Firefox and that works, can he manually copy over bookmarks, etc.?
[21:10] <oerheks> Elliria, rename the .mozilla folder ( hidden), and yes, you should be able to copy bookmarks.
[21:10] <bprompt> Elliria: sure hmmm, all configurations are saved under ~/.config, I do that with hmm Opera browser and chrome
[21:10] <tomreyn> not with snaps
[21:10] <oerheks> .config and .cache does not hold mozilla stuff
[21:11] <bprompt> right, I was thinking of that
[21:11] <tomreyn> ah without snaps neither, right
[21:11] <bprompt> Elliria: yeah, firefox may still be using the ~/.mozilla folder
[21:12] <tomreyn> Elliria: personally, i would instead (of 'refresh') create a new browser profile and test with that first of all.
[21:13] <bprompt> Elliria: so firefox has all images being dark, how about other webbrowsers?  and the OS is working fine?
[21:13] <Elliria> I recommended a fresh profile, but he saw the mention of the refresh in the Mozilla support page and asked if he ought to do that first. I've never done a refresh, but I'd be hesitant to trust Mozilla to protect my stuff, so I'd want to back it up.
[21:13] <Elliria> Chrome shows them fine and Firefox shows them fine if he boots from a thumb drive. I've put him through a ton of things to try and nothing worked, but the fact that it works fine from a thumb drive is a really good sign.
[21:14] <Elliria> Graphics are fine everywhere else in the OS.
[21:14] <bprompt> Elliria: firefox keep the profile under ~/.mozilla/firefox/SOME_FUNKY_NAME_OR_HASLIKE_NAME folder
[21:14] <oerheks> rename, it can easily be reversed
[21:15] <tomreyn> the path bprompt just posted is not correct if they're using a snap
[21:15] <bprompt> ohhh right, snap is a concern
[21:17] <tomreyn> with snaps it sould be in ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla/firefox
[21:17] <Elliria> Oh, good to know. Thank you so much!
[21:17] <Elliria> We made good headway and I don't want to make him lose anything.
[21:18] <bprompt> Elliria: mind you, isn't that some firefox extension doing all that?
[21:18] <tomreyn> personally, i used the 'refresh' option once and i found this to be a misnomer - it removed more than i would have expected.
[21:19] <bprompt> Elliria: I mean, the bug or issue in firefox is very esoteric
[21:19] <Elliria> Nope. He still had the issue in safe mode and safe mode disables those.
[21:20] <tomreyn> there's also troubleshoot mode (availabnle from the "Help" menu), which only temporarily disables all addons, but keeps user modified preferences. user modified preferences are listed at about:support
[21:21] <tomreyn> ah ok
[21:21] <bprompt> Elliria: you know, you can download firefox from mozilla.com as a bzip2 file, just a compressed file, all you do is unzip and run it, from whatever directory you wish, it runs standalone, and it can do that next to another install of firefox, no conflicts since it's standalone
[21:23] <Elliria> Oh, interesting. That would be an additional diagnostic that could be done.
[21:24] <Elliria> I had him run the firefox -safe-mode command. Is there a different one for troubleshoot mode?
[21:25] <bprompt> Elliria: sounds like the issue is his installation, as opposed to firefox itself per se, who knows, missing .so files or missing .js files
[21:26] <tomreyn> Elliria: i think the --safe-mode CLI option behaves identical to the "troubleshoot mode" menu option
[21:31] <Elliria> Yeah. I think we're about to figure it out with either the refresh or the new profile. If he creates a new profile and slowly copies his old files over into it, he could figure out exactly which one is bad.
[21:41] <chico_> mkou: have you tried installing caffeine?
[21:55] <iconoclast_hero> updated bios; disabled the wifi key to do any of the 4 options there; button still buttons, system still unresponsive, is this a bug and if so, should i bother until after upgrading from 22.04 shortly?
[21:56] <bprompt> 22.04?  downgrading? =)
[21:56] <iconoclast_hero> changing
[21:58] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: I looked around, it doesn't seem to be a widely spread issue, so doesn't seem to be a bug per se
[21:59] <ice9> some apps icons like yubikey authenticator are displayed as the default gear icon as shown in the screenshot, how to fix this in order to show the right app icon?   https://pasteboard.co/aKaMBRawNXnC.png
[21:59] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero: cheap answer, remap or disable the key :)
[22:00] <garrettkajmowicz> How do I get my system to stop trying to load X11/wayland/whatever? I need to disable nouveau and the display keeps trying to restart X11 and interrupting my typing.
[22:01] <iconoclast_hero> i thought we agreed it couldn't be remapped since it's being grabbed by bios?
[22:02] <iconoclast_hero> garrettkajmowicz: did you try ctrl alt F5?
[22:02] <iconoclast_hero> ctrl-alt f2 or f1 to get back
[22:04] <iconoclast_hero> does anything else use rfkill?  can i just rename that?
[22:04] <garrettkajmowicz> Yes. And X11-or-whatever keeps hijacking the physical display only to fail to initialize.
[22:04] <iconoclast_hero> i'm completely out of ideas.
[22:04] <garrettkajmowicz> I get about 50% of wallclock time where I can edit. With kernel log spam in the way.
[22:05] <iconoclast_hero> maybe try to disable your rc files that start up when the DE loads?
[22:05] <iconoclast_hero> in case something there's causing an issue
[22:05]  * iconoclast_hero wasn't out of ideas.
[22:05] <garrettkajmowicz> Shouldn't I be able to run some command to stop X11 so that I can manually edit the config files to disable nouveau in peace?
[22:06] <iconoclast_hero> you're askin the wrong dude...  i think you should be able to do everything like that.
[22:07] <iconoclast_hero> things rarely work the way i want though.
[22:07] <leftyfb> garrettkajmowicz: sudo systemctl stop gdm
[22:08] <garrettkajmowicz> leftyfb: No dice.
[22:09] <leftyfb> garrettkajmowicz: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target   # then reboot
[22:09] <bprompt> iconoclast_hero:  hmmmm tried remapping it or "trapping" it using something like "autokey" maybe?
[22:12] <garrettkajmowicz> I don't want to permanently stop execution. Just for now so I can edit to disable the nouveau trash.
[22:13] <leftyfb> garrettkajmowicz: great, then when you are done making your changes, run sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[22:20] <iconoclast_hero> where does multi-user.target drop you?  a cli?
[22:26] <garrettkajmowicz> I managed to disable the driver and reboot. I'm now not finding an easy way to install the NVidea driver. How do I tell it to install the correct version for the kernel I have installed?
[22:27] <leftyfb> !nvidia | garrettkajmowicz
[22:28] <garrettkajmowicz> nouveau crashes all the time!
[22:41] <garrettkajmowicz> Okay. Now working. I have no idea why the upgrade through aptitude broke everything, but I'm up and running again.
[22:42] <leftyfb> garrettkajmowicz: aptitude has been known to cause problems
[23:39] <quidnunc> How do I abort a pending dpkg configure without uninstalling the offending package?
[23:39] <quidnunc> (abort configuring a package that is in the "pending" configuration state in dpkg)