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trippehnow that the noble repos have been rolled back - will the t64 transition still happen for 24.04?09:26
julianktrippeh: the noble repos have not been rolled back and the transition already happened.09:31
julianktrippeh: only the amd64 binaries were rolled back09:32
juliankby removing them from the release pocket, copying in the old ones into -updates, and then doing no-change rebuilds uploads for the already-transitioned packages in release to proposed09:32
juliankFrom the perspective of armhf, which is the only t64 transitioner so to speak, it's a non-event09:33
trippehright. so if I wait a few days the t64 lib packages on amd64 will come back?09:36
julianksure09:40
juliankthey should all be there in proposed09:40
trippehack09:41
rbasakcpaelzer_: the MIR request should be for bpfcc-tools please. I've explained in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bpfcc/+bug/2052813/comments/1910:13
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2052813 in bpfcc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] bpfcc" [Undecided, Incomplete]10:13
rbasaks/MIR request/MIR/11:01
mwhudsonjbicha: i have no impulse control, i think this might fix the folks build https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5DjxGx6x4P/11:38
mwhudsonheh well not completely11:39
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Trevinhovorlon: Hey are we getting https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/commit/f01545e3f9350c080a525c246b9d46ba71cb0d09 in ubuntu too?13:35
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Commit f01545e in ssh-team/openssh "Support systemd socket activation"13:35
ogra_Trevinho, dont we have that since jammy already ?13:38
ogra_ah, not jammy ...13:38
Trevinhoogra_: It's the refactor not to use libsystemd... as per the xz backdoor. Indeed it's not a problem anymore, but it implies way less deps13:38
ogra_https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/sshd-now-uses-socket-based-activation-ubuntu-22-10-and-later/3018913:38
cjwatsonright, the refactor only happened this week13:39
cjwatsonjust a confusing commit reference13:39
TrevinhoSorry, I posted the wrong link13:39
Trevinhoyes13:39
TrevinhoI meant https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/commit/cc5f37cb8405cba624a133f4b8f464fbe381c5c813:39
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Commit cc5f37c in ssh-team/openssh "Avoid linking against libsystemd"13:39
cjwatsonJust bear in mind it's new and only relatively lightly tested.13:43
Trevinhocjwatson yeah, that's clear... But code is basically the same that is inside libsystemd so I don't expect many surprises.14:08
enr0nTrevinho: I was just gonna wait until next cycle to do the merge. It's been an on-going effort to re-align Ubuntu's socket activation patches with Debian14:29
Trevinhoenr0n I see, however for this specific change I've prepared it in https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+git/openssh/+merge/46360414:51
cjwatsonTrevinho: that drops some Ubuntu changes to the socket activation patch that haven't been merged yet.  compare https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/merge_requests/2314:56
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Merge 23 in ssh-team/openssh "Enable ssh.socket by default and add a systemd generator to configure ListenStream= based on /etc/sshd_config entries" [Opened]14:56
cjwatsonthat's part of why I was saying it needed a somewhat careful merge14:56
cjwatsonTrevinho: and you no longer need --with-systemd*14:56
Trevinhocjwatson: Yeah, I noticed... I was about to consider including such changes too14:57
cjwatson(I don't mean all of !23, it's just that your patch actually drops the bits of systemd-socket-activation.patch that were different in Ubuntu14:58
cjwatson)14:58
adriencpaelzer: you mention using memory tests in the MIR for libtracefs ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtracefs/+bug/2051925/comments/3 ) but I can't find this in the MIR documents15:20
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2051925 in libtracefs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] promote libtracefs as a trace-cmd dependency" [Undecided, Incomplete]15:20
adrienis it maybe some older template?15:21
Trevinhoenr0n: that's fixed now, I didn't notice the delta initially as the debian side contained the original patch from Steve and I thought they were matching... But the diff in lp looked too big indeed, so that's fixed now and re-tested.15:50
Trevinhocjwatson: sure thing, I didn't notice initially there was an extra delta; as at first I had worked only on the ubuntu side of things, then seeing the debian side I thought they were using the same patches. But the final diff made it clearer it was not the case.15:55
cjwatsonThanks.  Not an exhaustive review, but I've left a few comments.16:08
cjwatsonHm, possibly on a slightly older version - you might need to click "Show diff comments" on my comment to see them.16:09
Trevinhocjwatson: Yeah, thanks I had re-pushed since I noticed I forgot to remove the `--with-systemd` (weird, since I thought I did on first version... but since you noticed early maybe I didn't)16:35
Trevinhocjwatson: however I dropped also the other `--with-*` as you suggested, the reason i was keeping them was to make things more explicit, but I guess it's not needed16:36
cjwatsonThey're still there though?16:36
blucacjwatson: I want to send you a MR for openssh on salsa, but I can't figure out the git-dpm incantation... any chance you can provide some pointers? have a git commit to apply as a patch16:42
Trevinhocjwatson: No... Unless you checked a previous version?16:42
blucathe command man/help is not helpful, and I can't see a debian/README.source or so16:42
cjwatsonTrevinho: ugh, sorry, I needed to shift-reload16:43
cjwatsonbluca: in general: "git-dpm co" to switch to the patched branch, "git commit" or "git rebase -i upstream" or otherwise manipulate the patch queue relative to upstream, "git-dpm up" to switch back to the packaging branch with the new patched branch merged16:44
cjwatson(sometimes "git-dpm up --amend" if you have to go through the cycle a few times)16:45
Trevinhocjwatson: as I mentioned, indentation should be fixed too, but I preferred not to do it here, while I left a comment in the debian side to remember it at reconciliation time.16:46
blucathank you!16:46
cjwatsonTrevinho: I didn't notice anything wrong with indentation, but I was just looking at it in the browser16:46
Trevinhocjwatson I was also thinking... Maybe it would be sane to have a compile-time only dependency on libsystemd to get the value of `SD_LISTEN_FDS_START` so that we don't have to hardcode it?16:47
cjwatsonTrevinho: I guess we _could_, but 3 doesn't seem bad as hardcodings go16:47
cjwatsonnot sure that's worth a whole build-dep16:47
cjwatsonI don't think that's any worse than the rest of the inlining really16:47
Trevinhocjwatson: My fear is if that changes...16:47
cjwatsonI think it's part of the protocol in the same way that the rest of the inlined code is16:48
Trevinhoupstream code has even `assert_cc(SD_LISTEN_FDS_START < INT_MAX);` which seems even too cautious for something that is 3 now...16:48
cjwatsonhttps://systemd.io/PORTABILITY_AND_STABILITY/ says that it's covered by the interface stability promise, linking to https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/sd_listen_fds.html which specifically says it's 316:49
cjwatsonso I'm not worried about it16:49
Trevinhook, fair enough... also still getting it from header wouldn't make it saner when it comes to have mismatching versions (if that would have changed)16:50
cjwatsonand I don't want to have a #include for this, because I want to be able to send this patch upstream once we reconcile things, and I guarantee you they'll reject it if the #include is there16:50
Trevinhoindeed16:50
bluca--> https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/-/merge_requests/2516:51
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Merge 25 in ssh-team/openssh "Only set PAM_RHOST if the remote host is not 'UNKNOWN'" [Opened]16:51
blucawould be good to have that in ubuntu too btw16:51
enr0nbluca: if you create a quick bug report explaining it I can take a look at including it in the next openssh upload17:17
enr0n(or point me to the bug if there already is one)17:17
blucacan do that17:18
blucahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/206015017:24
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2060150 in openssh (Ubuntu) "openssh sets PAM_RHOST to UNKNOWN causing slow logins" [Undecided, New]17:24
enr0nbluca: thanks!17:26
mwhudsonis there a way to disable the log filtering sbuild does?20:55
mwhudsoni mean the "I: NOTICE: Log filtering will replace 'build/folks-RHx64z/folks-0.15.9' with '<<PKGBUILDDIR>>'" stuff20:55
sergiodjmwhudson: unfortunately not21:28
mwhudsonjbicha: does that "gimp crashes on closing a window" affect us too?21:31
sergiodjmwhudson: ah, there actually _is_: LOG_FILTER21:31
jbichamwhudson: probably, I put it on my backlog to look later21:31
mwhudsonsergiodj: huh how did i not find that!21:32
sergiodjits buried inside sbuild.conf(5)21:32
mwhudsonsergiodj: ah so no command line for it? sad21:34
sergiodjyeah, that's a bummer21:34
john-cabajDoes pbuilder (or pbuilder-dist for that matter) support creating noble chroots yet?21:51
vorlonjohn-cabaj: sbuild is the recommended tool; does the kernel team standardize on pbuilder instead for some reason? (sbuild is in main, pbuilder is in universe)22:06
vorlonjohn-cabaj: creating noble chroots at the moment is dicey however, things are in flux due to xz-utils22:06
john-cabajYeah, I was wondering if the xz issue could be holding things up in tooling.22:10
john-cabajI see pbuilder-dist referenced quite a bit, and wanted to try that. If sbuild accomplishes the same thing, I'll go that route.22:11
jbichajohn-cabaj: a lot of docs are out of date, most people use sbuild these days22:14
john-cabajAck. Will give that a shot, thanks all22:14
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