[00:24] <Tingo> quidnunc: ps -aux | grep dpkg
[00:25] <Tingo> to find out that why and where is it still running..
[00:50] <quidnunc> Tingo: No it's not still running, the configure step fails. And so I can't run apt anymore because it keeps trying to configure the package
[00:51] <quidnunc> and the package is linux-headers and linux-image so I can't remove it
[00:51] <rbox> why can't you
[00:52] <quidnunc> rbox: Why can't I remove the kernel?
[00:53] <rbox> you can reinstall it...
[00:53] <sarnold> or remove the metapackages and keep the kernel pacakges
[00:53] <sarnold> heck, you can go without the kernel package so long as you fix it up before you reboot
[02:23] <Guest12> hi ubuntu is good for macbook   ?
[02:24] <rbox> try it and see
[02:24] <Guest12> i donno how to install isight camera
[02:44] <tarzeau> Guest12: isight-firmware-tools - tools for dealing with Apple iSight firmware
[03:30] <cs-student> Hi, I am trying to install opencv version 3. Do the repositories for the latest version of Ubuntu have opencv version 3? According to this: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opencv it seems like it is using version 4, but I need version 3.
[03:30] <gsotam> hello
[03:30] <cs-student> hi gsotam
[03:32] <rbox> cs-student: if you want somethign not in the repos, you have to compile it
[03:33] <cs-student> rbox: I was wondering if it was in the repos on Ubuntu.
[03:33] <rbox> you just searched the repos...
[03:33] <cs-student> so the repos have version 4 and not 3? Oh, dang... thanks for confirming
[03:34] <cs-student> Is there an older version of ubuntu that has version 3 of opencv in the repos?
[03:38] <rbox> thats only searching back to 20.04
[03:38] <rbox> you could install an end of life version
[03:38] <rbox> and get no support
[03:38] <rbox> and get to keep all the pieces whne they break
[04:06] <gsotam> good morning
[05:02] <FixItFelix> Does anyone know how I can fix my ubuntu install issues on an older Acer AspireOne (D250-1042) laptop?
[05:03] <rbox> you would like us to guess what your issues are?
[05:03] <FixItFelix> I wasn't sure if I should just start blithering away in here or what. .. I haven't used mIRC in almost 20 years.
[05:04] <FixItFelix> I've created a boot image on a thumbdrive, the bootloader starts with four prompts...
[05:04] <FixItFelix> When I choose any of these prompts I end up with a black screen and a flashing _ in the upper left corner
[05:06] <FixItFelix> the prompts are "Try or Install Ubuntu"  "ubuntu (safe graphics)" "OEM Install (for manufacturers)" and "test memory"
[05:06] <rbox> safe graphics should work
[05:06] <rbox> how did you create the thumbdrive
[05:06] <FixItFelix> Test memory actually will conduct a memory test and has no issues with graphics
[05:07] <FixItFelix> the safe graphics didn't work, and I followed the directions for creating a bootable ISO at this site (https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#9-installation-complete)
[05:08] <FixItFelix> I downloaded the ubuntu ISO (ubuntu022.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso)
[05:15] <FixItFelix> the ISO file was flashed on the USB using Rufus 4.4.2103 (portable)
[05:20] <FixItFelix> I've read on some forums that it may take 10 or so minutes for the install to complete so I've left it the last night I was working on it for almost 2 hours with no progress.
[05:21] <KnownSyntax> Are you using the GUI installer or via a terminal like interface to install?
[05:21] <FixItFelix> without the bootable thumbdrive my laptop attempts to load the corrupted version of windows that is installed.
[05:21] <KnownSyntax> If you use the terminal like interface maybe turn debug on to see?
[05:23] <FixItFelix> I'm only using the GNU GRUB version 2.06 that loads, I don't know how to access a terminal interface
[05:24] <FixItFelix> I do have an option to edit the commands before booting
[05:26] <FixItFelix> When I press e on "try or install ubuntu" I have the following to edit:
[05:26] <FixItFelix> setparams 'Try or Install Ubuntu'
[05:26] <FixItFelix> 	set fgxpayload=keep
[05:26] <FixItFelix> 	linux	/casper/vmlinuz file/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed maybe-\ubiquity quiet splash ---
[05:26] <FixItFelix> 	initrd	 /casper/initrd
[06:16] <BlueSmoke> Hi is anyone familier with xzoom  -source geometry or -geometry
[06:27] <NickH> According to the man page the -soruce is the area you want to zoom in on, the -geometry is the xzoom display window size
[06:29] <BlueSmoke> what I'm trying to do is have the zoom box open on about top left to manify a smaller box on the right by 2
[06:29] <BlueSmoke> want it to open pointing to that box
[06:35] <BlueSmoke> been tying puting = in front of some of the numbers alowwed it to open but not sure what its doing
[06:45] <BlueSmoke> it seems to just keep showing from th top left  the box is biger or smaller but I'm pretty confused how this works or exactly how you enter it
[06:47] <BlueSmoke> shame they dont givesimple examples in the man page :)
[10:25]  * merayen 
[10:41] <lubuntu> hi
[10:42] <lubuntu> this is my first time
[10:56] <sunny> hi
[11:00] <merayen> hi, lubuntu!
[11:14] <zxd> hi
[11:14] <zxd> what's the recommended SMTP for ubuntu what's the fastest
[11:47] <zanoh> Is there a channel about -launchpad- specifically? Or can I ask questions related to launchpad here?
[11:47] <pragmaticenigma> Feel free to ask
[11:48] <zanoh> What advantages does launchpad offer over github? I could say easy to setup for ubuntu users would be one, but what else?
[11:57] <pragmaticenigma> zanoh: There is a tour https://launchpad.net/+tour/index - From there one advantage is that if your project meets the requirements, a project can have a PPA which allows a more streamlined installation path for the project.
[11:57] <zanoh> Should I wait until I have a working prototype or can I upload from the very first line of code?
[11:58] <zanoh> Because savannah for instance, wants a working prototype first.
[11:58] <pragmaticenigma> That's up to you, I don't see anything wrong with either approach
[11:59] <zanoh> I want to avoid github from 9001 feature requests that will surely lead to burnout.
[11:59] <zanoh> Trying to please everyone leads to me not being pleased.
[11:59] <pragmaticenigma> personally, I ignore feature requests, and put such notice in my readme
[11:59] <zanoh> I'll take that into consideration.
[12:03] <pragmaticenigma> or in a few cases, I've put in the readme that feature requests must be accompanied by a PR with a working code and test cases.
[12:03] <zanoh> Where do you put your code pragmaticenigma, if it's not launchpad?
[12:05] <pragmaticenigma> I have my projects on github
[12:18] <xbox> hi
[12:19] <zanoh> G'Day
[13:04] <ogra_> hmm, if zanoh comes back there is indeed #launchpad for LP related questions here on the server
[15:09] <vic-thor> who does the job of automounting usbs in ubuntu? who calls udisk2?
[15:12] <leftyfb> vic-thor: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/xxkvhk/comment/ird39iw/   found by searching for "ubuntu automount usb" on google
[15:14] <vic-thor> leftyfb: that's a summary, im trying to find how it does that, which package / file / black magic
[15:15] <leftyfb> vic-thor: it tells you exactly. The kernel creates a uevent, systemd-udevd reads that and processes udev rules
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> vic-thor: that's kind of a moving target. While many of the operations have begun to stabilize, I know in the last few LTS releases, a different approach was taken in each one. What might help to get a better answer is to provide a question on what you'd like to do.
[15:18] <vic-thor> i'm trying to understand the glue between the kernel and udisks2
[15:18] <leftyfb> systemd-udevd + dbus
[15:19] <vic-thor> nothing else?
[15:19] <vic-thor> no udiskie, udevil, u-whatever-is-this-time-of-the-year?
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> lets start with, what version of ubuntu are you running vic-thor ... as I mentioned earlier, it has changed over the last few years
[15:22] <tryauuum> c
[15:22] <vic-thor> 22.04.04
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> vic-thor: then what leftyfb posted is the most accurate representation... I think the rest is up to continue researching into ... from the summary Kernel emit uevent, systemd-udevd listens for those and takes action per its configured rules, udevd then emits an event on dbus which the desktop environment is listening to which provides user feedback that the device is mounted
[15:34] <vic-thor> ok, ill keep digging up
[15:34] <vic-thor> thanks
[15:37] <zph1nx> there a way to have the storage part pick the first biggest possible disk as part of the path: option when partititioning? trying to set up an automated ubuntu installation, which has the partition path set to /dev/sda, is there anyway to "wildcard" this?
[15:37] <zph1nx> https://pastebin.com/eBAZLuRb is the user-data
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> please no crossposting zph1nx
[15:43] <pragmaticenigma> zph1nx: No, the automation is assuming this is a dedicated resourse that you wish to configure or that you have multiple resources all pre-configured that you can specify the same parameters for each of them during the installation.
[15:46] <zph1nx> gregl__: so no catch all of multiple systems? i need to define a primary hardcoded name for every system in user-data?
[15:47] <zph1nx> so one user-data for sata, one user-data for nvme etc?
[15:48] <zph1nx> with hardcoded /dev naming for path
[15:49] <zph1nx> tbh, and im not casting any share on anyone in here or in development, but thats a pretty huge caveat for a system that calls itself autoinstall
[15:50] <zph1nx> escpeically since you can wildcard things like network cards under the network: yaml key
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> zph1nx: you'd have better luck finding the answer in a channel dedicated to what you are trying to accomplish. This channel focuses on Ubuntu Desktop.
[15:53] <zph1nx> im in #cloud-init, and #ubuntu-server, hence the cross-posts
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> zph1nx: The reason cloud-init cannot provide what you are asking, is because its focus is on the post-install configuration. The other shortcoming that you are overlooking is what would it do in the scenario of two partitions of equal size. You are expecting an automation tool to have the capacity to make arbitrary decisions. Decisions that could leave other users very angry when it makes the wrong choice and wipes out a criticle piece
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> of infrastructure. The comment about the network card being able to "wild card" is because that is configured after the installation. It's not an ideal situation as a developer to have ambiguity in a program or tool. For what you are asking, there will always be an edge case that cannot be accounted for and therefore it is better not to include such a feature and have to support every edge case that will come up for end users.
[16:33] <tryauuum> c
[16:34] <tryauuum> d
[16:34] <tryauuum> reset
[16:34] <tryauuum> n
[16:34] <tryauuum> qq
[16:34] <leftyfb> tryauuum: can we help you with something?
[16:34] <tryauuum> b
[16:34] <tryauuum> qdq
[16:34] <leftyfb> tryauuum: wrong window highlighted?
[16:59] <Zumo> Hello all, is there any documentation in how extend an LVM in RAID 1?
[17:19] <ramea> oi
[17:27] <mybalzitch> Zumo: the underlying block device got bigger?
[17:27] <mybalzitch> Zumo: usually its pvextend, then vgextend, then lvextend to handle the LVM, then you growfs if its an ext* filesystem
 the current RAID 1 has 2 disk of 4TB and the new disk are also 4TB each. The idea is to extent the current RAID 1 that is in LVM
[17:31] <Zumo> looking info through the internet I couldn't any proper documentation, I've seen a thousand things and none of it makes sense
[17:32] <Zumo> I was thinking that it might be as simple as create a new RAID 1 with the existing disk
[17:32] <mybalzitch> so you want to have more disks as part of your raid1 mirror?
[17:33] <Zumo> yep
[17:33] <mybalzitch> so you ahve the same amount of free space
[17:33] <Zumo> yep
[17:33] <mybalzitch> but more fault tolerance?
[17:33] <Zumo> yep
[17:33] <mybalzitch> okay, I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page
[17:33] <mybalzitch> and you're using LVM and then mdadm?
[17:33] <Zumo> ok
[17:33] <Zumo> syep
[17:33] <Zumo> yep
[17:34] <mybalzitch> can you pastebin the output from vgdisplay and lvdisplay please
[17:36] <Zumo> 2 min
[17:37] <mybalzitch> no problem
[17:37] <mybalzitch> and /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf would be great too
[17:44] <Zumo> https://pastebin.com/X4wEt69F -> vgdisplay
[17:44] <Zumo> https://pastebin.com/a3HzEQi4 -> lvdisplay
[17:45] <mybalzitch> sorry could I get pvdisplay too
[17:47] <Zumo> yep yep
[17:50] <Zumo> https://pastebin.com/V31sM7v9
[17:52] <Zumo> https://pastebin.com/j8BUdQdM -> lsblk
[17:52] <Zumo> ok my mdadm file is empty
[17:52] <mybalzitch> and do you know if its sdf or sdg you want to use?
[17:54] <Zumo> yep
[17:54] <Zumo> affirmative
[17:54] <Zumo> put does 2 in raid 1 and expand vg_data
[17:59] <mybalzitch> any reason you want them mirrored as a pair, and added to the other mirror, instead of creating one logical volume that has 4 individual drives under it all mirrored
[18:00] <Zumo> the current raid already as 3.4TB of data, in order to do that I would lose all the data, right? I might be wrong
[18:00] <mybalzitch> any reason you want them mirrored as a pair, and added to the other mirror, **** instead of using the one existing logical volume that has 2 individual drives under it mirrored, and adding 2 additional drives to it and growing that mirror
[18:01] <mybalzitch> you can do this without data loss
[18:01] <Zumo> that is what I was afraid off
[18:01] <mybalzitch> (but should backup anyway if possible)
[18:01] <mybalzitch> https://tylersguides.com/guides/mirroring-an-existing-lvm-volume/ if you go down to "adding/removing mirrors"
[18:02] <mybalzitch> pvcreate sdf
[18:03] <mybalzitch> vgextend vg_data sdf
[18:04] <mybalzitch> lvconvert --type raid1 -m 2 /dev/vg_data/data
[18:04] <mybalzitch> then do it again for sdg, and change -m 2 to -m 3
[18:05] <mybalzitch> *in theory* that should do what you want
[18:05] <Zumo> ok thanks
[18:06] <Zumo> let me test in a VM fisrt before jumping in to the prod
[18:07] <mybalzitch> yes, please verify. I'm going off man pages and haven't used a ton of lvm
[18:09] <Zumo> ok, is there any other partition type that does exactly like LVM
[18:09] <Zumo> in linux?
[18:18] <mybalzitch> you mean is there another volume management service?
[18:18] <mybalzitch> there's btrfs which has overlap but I wouldn't suggest using, and then there's zfs which in the latest ubuntu kernel might have some issues
[18:19] <Zumo> LVM it is
[18:19] <Zumo> old but works
[18:19] <mybalzitch> yea, lvm is old, stable, and if you just need mirrors, it's a great choice
[18:20] <Zumo> agreed
[19:28] <GSMarquis> 22.04, I am getting constant notifications that running apps are ready via gnome notifications. Prob every 5-8 mins.
[19:39] <topcat001> mybalzitch: you could use non-raid btrfs with lvm for the extra features
[19:40] <topcat001> sorry I meant to tag Zumo
[19:41] <mybalzitch> yeah, its just the raid5 btrfs thats not ready for prod
[20:05] <bn_work> hi, apt Q:  why does apt ignore the runtime specified package, ie:  `Note, selecting 'cassandra' instead of '/home/jdoe/cassandra_4.0.6_all.deb'` and fallback to using the repo provided one?
[20:05] <leftyfb> bn_work: use dpkg
[20:05] <bn_work> (when doing `sudo apt install ~/cassandra_4.0.6_all.deb`)
[20:06] <bn_work> leftyfb: then dependencies aren't auto-resolved, no?
[20:06] <leftyfb> you can fix them after with sudo apt install -f
[20:06] <leftyfb> if the project developer built it properly
[20:07] <bn_work> leftyfb: does that only check packages in the sources.lst?  If it's not there, I assume it still fails?
[20:07] <leftyfb> correct
[20:08] <leftyfb> try it with dpkg and apt install -f. For any further support with that package you'll need to seek support from the project
[20:09] <loswedseded> I work with xubuntu 23.10 on an old macbook. I’ve been trying to change the mac address with the cli, the same way I do with my main computer (with systemctl, NetworkManager and ip link), but nothing works, even though sudo systemctl status NetworkManager.service shows the NetworkManager as disabled and ip link shows the network’s status as down. Any ideas welcomed
[20:11] <bn_work> leftyfb:  in this invocation example is `install` a param to `-f`?  or the command `install`?
[20:11] <pragmaticenigma> loswedseded: that's a lot to take in... what exactly is the issue?
[20:11] <leftyfb> sudo apt install -f # to fix dependencies
[20:11] <bn_work> leftyfb: so I don't need to specify the package name also?
[20:12] <leftyfb> bn_work: sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>     then sudo apt install -f   # to fix dependencies
[20:14] <bn_work> leftyfb: hmm, it just wants to install the existing installed version
[20:14] <bn_work> s/install/uninstall/
[20:14] <leftyfb> bn_work: please pastebin the entire terminal of what you typed and it's response
[20:17] <ubuntukoksucker> linux slowly turning into george soros project imho
[20:17] <leftyfb> ubuntukoksucker: this is a support channel
[20:17] <ubuntukoksucker> your mom is a whore
[20:27] <bn_work> when `apt show foo` says `Status: install ok unpacked`, does `install` mean `installed`?  (neither `man apt` nor `man apt-cache` document this)
[20:28] <leftyfb> bn_work: apt policy <package>
[21:14] <zxd> hi
[21:14] <zxd> how to fix : newaliases: fatal: bad string length 0 < 1: mydomain =  dpkg: error processing package postfix (--configure)
[21:14] <zxd> installing postfix is broken
[21:15] <leftyfb> zxd: I would start by looking at your aliases file
[21:15] <sarnold> try a postconf -n, maybe it'll just tell you the error?
[21:16] <bn_work> thanks, based on the output of that I'm assuming that's a "yes"?  (the output from `policy` is a bit more explicit, but harder to remember- why that choice of terminology? 🤔)
[21:29] <ice9> whats the difference between nvidia driver on ubuntu desktop and nvidia server driver?
[21:30] <pragmaticenigma> I would venture one is more focused on gaming, while the other on GPU based processing. Nvidia does the same sort of driver offering with Windows. One for Gaming focus, and one focused for data processing.
[21:32] <zxd> leftyfb: aliass file is good
[21:32] <zxd> sarnold: what next no error
[22:13] <sarnold> zxd: oh dang :( I was hoping that'd clearly show something obvious :(
[22:15] <sarnold> zxd: so, hunting around the internet, I think edit /etc/postfix/main.cf to fix mydomain and then run sudo newaliases