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ice9 | when plugging an external monitor to laptop, the opened apps windows are misplaced, and to fix that, I have to restore the window size then maximize it for every app; is there solution to this? this issue has been there for very long time and i'm running the latest gnome-shell | 03:48 |
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Guest3813 | I am using ubuntu 22.04 on 2 systems. Both systems have vim installed via apt. On one system vim --version |grep clip shows +clipboard and on the other it shows -clipboard. Why is there a difference. AM I missing some package to make the vim clipboard feature work on one system? | 06:24 |
CosmicDJ | Guest3813: ls -l /etc/alternatives/vim shows what on both systems? | 06:46 |
nteodosio | Guest3813, if you try 'apt list --installed | grep ^vim' you will most likely note that in one system you have a GUI version of Vim installed (say, vim-gtk3), and in the other, not. So install a GUI version to have +clipboard. | 06:57 |
gebbione | hi one of the monitor seems to be dead (led light blinking but not detected), right click on the desktop and clicking on display settings shows nothing and sound is dead too ... not a great morning so far :( | 07:40 |
luksi | hello | 07:50 |
hexa- | hi, is there a way to upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 beta right now? | 08:16 |
hexa- | I' | 08:16 |
hexa- | I'm trying with do-release-upgrade and I can't get it to do that with neither Prompt=normal/lts or with/without -d | 08:17 |
lotuspsychje | hexa-: -d is disabled right now | 08:18 |
lotuspsychje | hexa-: the devs still working to finalize the xz exploit | 08:19 |
hexa- | I'm not worried about that, this is a test environment and I require some new packages, but the machine was set up with 22.04 by mistake | 08:19 |
lotuspsychje | hexa-: also, the lts route is waiting for upgrade until 24.04.1 | 08:20 |
hexa- | not a production machine | 08:20 |
lotuspsychje | ok | 08:20 |
lotuspsychje | hexa-: join #ubuntu-next and wait until things are fixed | 08:20 |
lotuspsychje | or clean install 24.04 | 08:20 |
hexa- | fair | 08:20 |
quazimodo | holler | 09:06 |
quazimodo | is it appropriate to ask kernel questions here? | 09:09 |
quazimodo | i'd like to apply a patch that lets the kerner reorganise IOMMU groups, my motherboard is a bit annoying & is putting both my graphics cards into the same group no matter what I do in bios | 09:10 |
ogra_ | quazimodo, as long as they are about supported ubuntu packaged kernels, sure ... but your chances for answers are probably higher in #ubuntu-kernel | 09:10 |
quazimodo | i have a patch known to work with 6.3 but jammy is on 6.5, i guess i could just apply the patch & go but I am a littel fearful of doing something stupid, i don't know how much i don't know in this space | 09:11 |
quazimodo | ah ok i didn't know about that channel | 09:11 |
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quazimodo | any reason why apt-get remove linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic would leave files in /boot ? | 10:15 |
ogra_ | quazimodo, like every remove it will not remove generated files without --purge | 10:19 |
Guest67 | hi to create a win live usb by ubuntu? i know it's win but i ask here coz i need to do that by ubuntu and i don't know how | 10:35 |
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lotuspsychje | !usb | Guest67 | 10:42 |
ubottu | Guest67: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 10:42 |
gebbione | hi all | 10:44 |
lotuspsychje | Guest67: you need windows on the stick? | 10:44 |
lotuspsychje | welcome gebbione | 10:44 |
gebbione | if i right click and select display settings on the desktop to open monitor settings nothing happens ... any suggestions? | 10:45 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: graphics driver loaded correctly? | 10:47 |
gebbione | lotuspsychje, I am checking things out. Not the first time I have problems. I moved the PC from one house to another and sound is not working. Second screen was not working and I realise now that I am still using kernel 5.15 through mainline. I guess i need to update the kernel too | 10:48 |
gebbione | dsmesg has a lot of errors from nvidia too | 10:49 |
lotuspsychje | your ubuntu release gebbione ? | 10:49 |
gebbione | jammy 22.04.4 | 10:50 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: check, sudo lshw -C video | 10:51 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: jammy should have 5.15 already, not needed mainline | 10:52 |
gebbione | https://termbin.com/1pbo | 10:53 |
lotuspsychje | ok, driver is loaded | 10:53 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: to check wich driver version, nvidia-smi | 10:54 |
gebbione | https://termbin.com/fh4d | 10:55 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: 535, maybe your card could benefit a latest driver check ubuntu-drivers list | 10:56 |
gebbione | that gave me the versions but a lot of warnings | 10:56 |
lotuspsychje | lets have a look | 10:57 |
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gebbione | https://termbin.com/ncfe the warnings are not shown as they are not piped to nc .... they say dpkg: warning: version 'unsigned-6.1.11-060111' has bad syntax: version number does not start with a digit | 10:58 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: did you mess with mainline kernels? | 11:01 |
gebbione | most likely | 11:01 |
lotuspsychje | uninstall those | 11:01 |
gebbione | everytime i use it I need to remember how to check what is available and what to switch to | 11:01 |
lotuspsychje | thats for testing purposes only | 11:02 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: lets have a look first at you sudo dmesg | 11:04 |
gebbione | https://termbin.com/xvmf | 11:04 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: right yeah, thats not jammys kernel, purge that one | 11:05 |
gebbione | should i switch back to 5.15? | 11:06 |
lotuspsychje | yes | 11:06 |
gebbione | strange, i tried to remove unsigned kernels but mainline cant do it | 11:09 |
gebbione | is there a page on the ubuntu website that states the official kernel in use? | 11:12 |
lotuspsychje | info linux-image-generic jammy | 11:13 |
gebbione | that shows me -> info: No menu item 'linux-image-generic' in node '(dir)Top' | 11:15 |
gebbione | this article says 6.5 should be out :) | 11:15 |
lotuspsychje | that was for the bot here gebbione | 11:15 |
gebbione | https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-22-04-4-lts-jammy-jellyfish-released-with-linux-kernel-6-5-mesa-23-2 | 11:15 |
gebbione | ohh i see | 11:15 |
lotuspsychje | 6.5 is !hwe kernel for jammy | 11:15 |
lotuspsychje | stock is 5.15 | 11:16 |
guiverc | LTS releases have kernel stack choice (default set by your install media), 5.15 is the GA kernel, 6.5 the current HWE kernel (at 22.04.4, it'll be 6.8 at 22.04.5) | 11:16 |
guiverc | some hardware can also benefit from OEM kernel stacks too | 11:16 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: dpkg --list | grep linux-image , to easy see your kernel list on system | 11:16 |
gebbione | with the official kernel in the past i had some problems with nvdia | 11:17 |
gebbione | thats why i tried mainline | 11:17 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: then you should have filed a bug | 11:17 |
gebbione | version 6 is running https://termbin.com/d84w3 . i guess i should remove it | 11:19 |
gebbione | and just revert to 5.15 | 11:19 |
lotuspsychje | yep | 11:19 |
gebbione | I am going to restart hoping it gets better | 11:24 |
gebbione | thank you | 11:24 |
gebbione | ok if i boot from 5.15 my displays do not work at all | 11:29 |
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lotuspsychje | gebbione: switch a driver version to see | 11:30 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: lets say one higher up then 535 | 11:30 |
gebbione | yes i ll try 45, others have server or open in the name .... not sure | 11:33 |
lotuspsychje | gebbione: yeah try 545 | 11:35 |
gebbione | if i install a driver now in kernel 6.1 but then boot with another kernel should i then manually update initramfs ? | 11:51 |
Guest67 | lotuspsychje yes i need win live usb but i have to create it by ubuntu coz now i haven t any other OS | 11:56 |
lotuspsychje | Guest67: woeusb or ventoy to make win usb's from ubuntu | 12:01 |
Guest67 | it doesn't work | 12:03 |
Guest67 | lotuspsychje | 12:03 |
akik | Guest67: i can help you | 12:05 |
akik | Guest67: do you mean a live windows or windows installer? | 12:05 |
Guest67 | i need a live usb, because i don't want to cancel the OS on the other PC which have LUBUNTU | 12:06 |
Guest67 | akik | 12:06 |
akik | Guest67: try making a bit more sense | 12:06 |
Guest67 | i need a live usb, to use win from a live usb | 12:08 |
akik | Guest67: ok you can do it like this: https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2023/06/18/how-to-create-a-windows-10-installation-on-a-usb-stick-in-uefi-mode/ | 12:09 |
Guest67 | akik coz ubuntu give me some problems, for example sometimes some folders don't open in stead by win they works | 12:09 |
Guest67 | oh my GOD, i read it, so difficutl for me | 12:10 |
akik | Guest67: yes it's not double click and voila | 12:11 |
Guest67 | woeusb works now, i just wann to use graphical way | 12:11 |
Guest67 | but when i add iso file, it don't works | 12:11 |
Guest67 | maybe i found a wrong iso | 12:11 |
akik | Guest67: woeusb creates the windows installer on the usb stick | 12:13 |
akik | Guest67: the docu i linked above creates a live windows installation on the usb stick | 12:14 |
Guest67 | yes but how to do by woeusb? | 12:15 |
akik | Guest67: you don't | 12:15 |
Guest67 | which iso do i have to download? | 12:16 |
LuckyMan | when will the 24.04 beta be out? | 12:16 |
akik | Guest67: microsoft has something called win pe that is similar | 12:16 |
akik | Guest67: but win pe is not the same as a proper windows installation | 12:20 |
Guest67 | akik i don't want to install win, i wan to start it as live usb and continuing to use LUBUNTU on the other PC and UBUNTU on this i'm using now | 12:22 |
leejones | I often see "New Folder" folders on my desktop. | 12:25 |
akik | Guest67: you can't do it | 12:26 |
Guest67 | akik why? | 12:31 |
akik | Guest67: there's no iso image that would give you a proper windows runtime without installing | 12:31 |
Guest18 | Hi, I need to have a website with logins and other fancy stuff with databases and so on, on my ubuntu server; for testing puposes | 12:37 |
Guest18 | Do you any such thing? I would like to save me sometime and not design a website | 12:37 |
Guest67 | articles on internet which talks about live usb windows are false? | 12:38 |
Guest67 | akik | 12:38 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:39 |
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akik | Guest67: i think rufus can also do it, but it's for windows | 12:44 |
akik | Guest67: so ask a friend who has windows to help you | 12:44 |
Guest67 | woeusb do the same thing of rufus but on ubuntu, the problem is which iso i have to use or if there's something other to do over this operation by woeusb, | 12:46 |
Guest67 | akik | 12:46 |
akik | Guest67: no it doesn't | 12:47 |
akik | Guest67: get a friend who has windows. download rufus. run rufus. use it to create a windows-to-go usb stick installation | 12:47 |
Guest67 | i found on google articles which talks about WINDOWS PE and WIntToGO but are articles for win, i have to do all by ubuntu | 12:48 |
akik | Guest67: i don't know what to say. you said the docu i linked to is too diffiuclt | 12:53 |
Guest67 | i'm a simple user, i can't do difficutl operation on pc, i just need a live usb because sometimes ubuntu gives me problems, especially opening folder and after i can't access my files | 12:55 |
Guest67 | i don't wanna have data loss, and impossibility to open my files | 12:55 |
akik | Guest67: let's try to fix that problem then | 12:56 |
akik | Guest67: where are the files you can't access? | 12:56 |
gebbione | lotuspsychje, i tried a few things ... kernel 5.15 does not load the wifi adapter. I am not a wizard but it looks like it was not recognising it. I tried kernel 6.8. It didnt fix anything . I am back to 6.1 and it all works but only with nvidia 535. Not sure what i can report as a bug | 12:58 |
Guest67 | akik on external hd | 13:01 |
akik | Guest67: where is it mounted? it probably just has wrong owners for the files | 13:02 |
Guest67 | it's mounted by usb | 13:03 |
Guest67 | akik | 13:03 |
akik | Guest67: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999 # that transfers your disk status to termbin | 13:03 |
akik | Guest67: if this happens again, you just need to remember these commands: "id", "echo $USER", "chown -R username /path/to/dir" | 13:08 |
akik | Guest67: the chown command changes the file ownership to you. run it with sudo | 13:09 |
Guest67 | https://pastebin.com/raw/1uMMNe4D | 13:10 |
Guest67 | akik | 13:10 |
Guest67 | akik https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CffCwAl_lyvIO1-iWZM-oSiB9xsAjvQ5/view?usp=sharing | 13:12 |
Guest67 | usually it shows me "Input/output" errors | 13:12 |
Guest67 | few minutes before the folder when i was using it, works perfectly | 13:12 |
akik | Guest67: so see first "echo $USER" then: sudo chown -R username '/media/user/Disco esterno 2' | 13:13 |
akik | Guest67: after that, everything on that disk is owned by you | 13:13 |
Guest67 | there's some problems to read and write on external hds, i don't know if it depends on lenght of paths, because some files they don't open then i have to copy and paste on desktop to open them | 13:14 |
akik | Guest67: you really have a dir there called "[[[[[ Archivio (prova)" ? | 13:16 |
vlt | Guest18: Have a look at https://www.djangoproject.com and the great tutorial. | 13:16 |
Guest67 | akik user@user-X580VN:~$ echo $USER | 13:16 |
Guest67 | user | 13:16 |
Guest67 | i don't know what i did | 13:16 |
Guest67 | sudo chown -R user '/media/user/Disco esterno 2' | 13:17 |
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Guest67 | is this i have to write in terminal? | 13:17 |
Guest67 | akik | 13:18 |
akik | try starting the line with akik: | 13:18 |
akik | Guest67: replace user with the output from "echo $USER" | 13:19 |
Guest18 | vit I don't want to do any tutorial I want a dummy website. | 13:20 |
Guest18 | That is all | 13:20 |
vlt | Guest18: Then https://www.wix.com might suit you, perhaps. | 13:21 |
akik | Guest67: ok maybe ubuntu is not for you then | 13:22 |
Guest67 | akik excuse me, it's just because I rarely use this feature | 13:23 |
Guest67 | akik do u see the image? | 13:23 |
Guest67 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CffCwAl_lyvIO1-iWZM-oSiB9xsAjvQ5/view?usp=sharing | 13:23 |
Guest67 | this one | 13:23 |
leftyfb | Guest18: if you have no interest in building a web server and maintaining all the pieces that go into it, then do not run your own web server. Go with a hosted solution, as has been mentioned | 13:24 |
akik | Guest67: yes. how far in the path you can go and if you reach the target dir, can you copy the file? | 13:25 |
leftyfb | Guest67: I think akik meant to mention Guest18, not you | 13:26 |
Guest67 | akik do u see this image? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CffCwAl_lyvIO1-iWZM-oSiB9xsAjvQ5/view?usp=sharing | 13:26 |
Guest67 | it doesn't let me oper the folder anymore | 13:27 |
akik | Guest67: yes. how far in the path you can go and if you reach the target dir, can you copy the file? | 13:27 |
Guest67 | however after command u told me it appears some messages like these: | 13:27 |
Guest67 | chown: cambiamento del proprietario di '/media/user/Disco esterno 2/[ Copia D, 11-08-2023, 12-46/[[[[[ Archivio (prova)/Immagini/Sfondi/IMG_20200813_154846.jpg': Errore di input/output | 13:27 |
Guest67 | chown: cambiamento del proprietario di '/media/user/Disco esterno 2/[ Copia D, 11-08-2023, 12-46/[[[[[ Archivio (prova)/Immagini/Sfondi/IMG_20200815_125333.jpg': Errore di input/output | 13:27 |
Guest67 | about 8 messages like these | 13:27 |
Guest67 | in different folders | 13:28 |
vlt | Guest67: What does `journalctl --dmesg` tell you at around the matching timestamps? | 13:28 |
Guest67 | vlt so much lines, how to stop it? | 13:34 |
vlt | Guest67: You should be able to use the PageUp, PageDown or End keys to navigate. | 13:34 |
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vlt | Guest67: To reduce the number of lines you can tell it something like `journalctl --dmesg --since=-10min`. | 13:37 |
vlt | Guest67: Attento, thereβs a "-" before the "10min". | 13:38 |
akik | perfetto | 13:42 |
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Guest67 | vlt which are end keys? | 13:46 |
Guest67 | it doesn' stop | 13:46 |
Guest67 | vlt | 13:47 |
vlt | Guest67: End might be "Fine" on your keyboard. | 13:49 |
vlt | Guest67: If your keyboard lacks these keys, "Inizio" is "g", "Fine" is "G", the Pagina keys are "f" and "b". "q" exits the view. | 14:03 |
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Sahin | when can we download offical Ubuntu 24.04 lts? | 14:18 |
vlt | Sahin: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-schedule | 14:20 |
toddc | if it is ready | 14:20 |
mybalzitch | oof, don't visit ubuntu dot org | 16:02 |
magga | my battery just died with the my usb-c power connected :O must be something with TLP :S | 16:08 |
johnfg_ | hi folks | 16:28 |
johnfg_ | my daughters laptop just upgraded to 22.04. | 16:28 |
johnfg_ | Now, when it comes up, it's asking to set up a new user, but will not accept her current user. I had this trouble before, and looked back through my logs, but don't remember the resolution. | 16:29 |
johnfg_ | at present, I logged in through tty2. | 16:29 |
johnfg_ | neither power off or restart has made any difference. | 16:30 |
leftyfb | johnfg_: to be clear, Ubuntu will never automatically upgrade releases | 16:30 |
leftyfb | johnfg_: you can login to tty2 using her user? | 16:30 |
johnfg_ | leftyfb: Yes, exactly. | 16:31 |
leftyfb | johnfg_: sudo apt remove --purge oem-config* | 16:32 |
johnfg_ | So, it must have been another major upgrade. | 16:32 |
tykling | hello, does anyone know if 24.04 server installer will have zfs as a filesystem option in the installer? thanks! | 16:32 |
johnfg_ | ! | 16:32 |
johnfg_ | leftyfb: Before I do that, what are you thinking? | 16:34 |
leftyfb | Iβm thinking you have oem-config installed | 16:34 |
johnfg_ | leftyfb: Ok, I'll give that a try. | 16:35 |
johnfg_ | I'll be back after a reboot... | 16:36 |
lotuspsychje | !next | tykling | 16:37 |
ubottu | tykling: Noble Numbat is the codename for Ubuntu 24.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. | 16:37 |
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luksi | hello there! | 17:09 |
lotuspsychje | welcome luksi | 17:09 |
luksi | lotuspsychje: thanks | 17:10 |
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hiya | ,kernel | 17:26 |
hiya | What kernel do we currently have on Ubuntu 23.10? | 17:27 |
lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic mantic | 17:28 |
ubottu | linux-image-generic (6.5.0.27.27, mantic): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 10 kB / 16 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) | 17:28 |
leftyfb | hiya: run: uname -a | 17:28 |
hiya | leftyfb: except I am on Debian :P | 17:28 |
hiya | hence I am asking | 17:28 |
pragmaticenigma | hiya: It's the same command, but if you need help with Debian, there's a channel for that. | 17:28 |
hiya | I don't need help with Debian | 17:28 |
hiya | I am asking for the kernel version on Ubuntu 23.10 currently | 17:29 |
pragmaticenigma | hiya: That depends on updates and configuration | 17:29 |
hiya | pragmaticenigma: So there must a latest release for standard configuration | 17:31 |
hiya | I think it is 6.5.x | 17:32 |
pragmaticenigma | hiya: There's the kernel that the install image was released with back in October of 2023. That wouldn't have changed, but system updates would have applied updates depending on the user's preferences. What exactly are you trying to figure out? | 17:33 |
hiya | pragmaticenigma: latest kernel version for 23.10 | 17:33 |
hiya | I think it is 6.5.0.27.27 | 17:33 |
plastikman | https://packages.ubuntu.com/mantic-updates/linux-image-generic | 17:34 |
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hiya | plastikman: Thank you | 17:37 |
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vroomtape | hi | 17:50 |
vroomtape | i new | 17:50 |
vroomtape | i mean im new | 17:50 |
lotuspsychje | welcome vroomtape | 17:50 |
vroomtape | so how do we game here? | 17:50 |
lotuspsychje | !ask | vroomtape | 17:51 |
ubottu | vroomtape: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 17:51 |
pragmaticenigma | vroomtape: no, this is a support channel, for getting assistance with issues related to Ubuntu | 17:51 |
vroomtape | ok ty | 17:51 |
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hackerman | Is there any way to disable power to a usb port where a device is connected that is only charging (ie. there is no data communication -> no id is assigned by which to disable it)? | 18:21 |
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pragmaticenigma | hackerman: I have not heard of such a feature, only some motherboards that will continue to supply power when the system is in a powered down state | 18:28 |
hackerman | pragmaticenigma, ok and when I do a unbind does it disable power? | 18:29 |
pragmaticenigma | I'm not sure, I would assume power is still delivered but it if there's any feature to request higher amperage (like for PowerDelivery cabable ports and devices) they may not work | 18:30 |
pragmaticenigma | *may not work => max amperage 500 mA | 18:30 |
hackerman | I understand | 18:30 |
hackerman | Well I will try and come back and say the outcome | 18:31 |
pragmaticenigma | There are adapters on the market where the data pins are disconnected in the cable, or with small adapter that sites between the computer and the cable | 18:32 |
pragmaticenigma | * sites => sits | 18:32 |
hackerman | What I am trying to do is control a led with usb | 18:33 |
leftyfb | hackerman: only certain chipsets support controlling power to USB ports. Most don't | 18:35 |
leftyfb | hackerman: https://github.com/mvp/uhubctl | 18:35 |
hackerman | leftyfb, mine is actually there | 18:39 |
leftyfb | then try uhubctl | 18:39 |
leftyfb | sudo apt install uhubctl | 18:39 |
hackerman | yet it says "No compatible devices detected!" lsusb: https://termbin.com/xskj | 18:43 |
lord_rob | Hi! I'm trying to install wine-devel (official package which comes from winehq repository). I can't satisfy depency "libc6 (>= 2.38)", as the version in ubuntu distro is 2.35 ... Isn't there a more recent repository? | 18:59 |
pragmaticenigma | lord_rob: support for 3rd party repositories has to be addressed by the repository maintainer. Focus here is the primary repositories included with Ubuntu releases. | 19:01 |
lord_rob | ok, is there a repository for development version of Ubuntu? | 19:04 |
lord_rob | like sid in Debian? | 19:04 |
CosmicDJ | lord_rob: the next LTS release (noble) will ship with libc6 2.39 https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/libc6 | 19:08 |
lord_rob | OK thanks CosmicDJ | 19:08 |
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johnfg | hi guys | 19:15 |
johnfg | removing the oem-config didn't work. I think it's a gnome thing that's affecting the console login wanting to reconfigure. | 19:16 |
johnfg | Any ideas on how to fix it? | 19:16 |
johnfg | gnome-initial setup seems to be the culprit. How do I disable that, when the login is already here? | 19:17 |
akik | johnfg: can you login from the virtual console and see if the account works? | 19:21 |
lord_rob | In /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list I can see "# Do not edit this file manually, use Software Sources instead.". Could I still replace all occurences of "jammy" by "noble" by manually editing? | 19:22 |
plastikman | lord_rob: that will break so many things | 19:24 |
lord_rob | I was pretty sure of that plastikman | 19:24 |
lord_rob | so how could I do that? | 19:25 |
plastikman | i got chastised last time i told someone to compile from source as its not the "ubuntu way", but if you want something that is outside of the repo, you will have to compile from sources. | 19:25 |
plastikman | because of the nature of a binary distro (nothing wrong with that) you cant take packages from a newer release and apply to an older one. too many deps to worry about | 19:26 |
lord_rob | I see ... | 19:27 |
plastikman | unless someone has a PPA (Is that still a thing) for your release with newer wine release | 19:28 |
lord_rob | I see | 19:29 |
lord_rob | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/ contains more recent versions of glibc, that's why I was asking | 19:31 |
CosmicDJ | lord_rob: you're not just going to install one of the newer debs on your machine, right? | 19:32 |
akik | johnfg: can you login from the virtual console and see if the account works? | 19:32 |
lord_rob | CosmicDJ: I'd prefer to have a feedback from official Ubuntu developers before killing my machine | 19:33 |
CosmicDJ | lord_rob: official support needs a subscription https://ubuntu.com/pro/subscribe | 19:36 |
plastikman | I would HIGHLY recomend against messing with glibc | 19:36 |
plastikman | thar be dragons. | 19:37 |
plastikman | just compile wine from source, or install one of the 24.04 beta spins (if those exist) but then you need to go into ubuntu-next or w/e to get support | 19:37 |
lord_rob | I've been a Debian Sid user since 2002, but I didn't know Ubuntu was commercial | 19:38 |
plastikman | its not | 19:38 |
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plastikman | Ubuntu Pro is commercial | 19:38 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: what is it exactly you're trying to accomplish? | 19:39 |
plastikman | that was going to be my next question ;) | 19:39 |
akik | it's a camera trick when the esm apps are offered for everybody | 19:39 |
lord_rob | I want to be able to configure my machine so it suits my needs, like I've always done with debian sid | 19:40 |
leftyfb | akik: pro is available for everyone for free as long as you aren't rolling it out enterprise-wide | 19:40 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: in what way exactly? | 19:40 |
lord_rob | hmm I did not know there was a Ubuntu pro | 19:41 |
akik | and as long you have 5 ubuntu installations | 19:41 |
plastikman | Ubuntu pro is not the point tho, that will not give you what you are looking for lord_rob | 19:41 |
leftyfb | akik: more if you're an ubuntu member. Which is also free | 19:41 |
akik | leftyfb: tell me more about that | 19:42 |
leftyfb | akik: https://ubuntu.com/pro#:~:text=to%20an%20expert-,Personal,-Anyone%20can%20use | 19:42 |
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akik | thanks | 19:43 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: in what way exactly are you trying to configure your machine so it suits your needs? | 19:43 |
akik | "Your application demonstrates that you have made sustained and significant contributions to Ubuntu." | 19:44 |
akik | i don't think i have done that | 19:44 |
leftyfb | akik: contributing to support on IRC since at least 2017 | 19:45 |
plastikman | lord_rob: I think it would be beneficial for you to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and then maybe we can figure out a way forward. | 19:46 |
lord_rob | plastikman: the point is when I issue "cat /etc/debian_version" I see bookworm/sid whereas latest testing is trixie, hence my problems I think | 19:46 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: this is ubuntu, not debian | 19:47 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: cat /etc/os-release | 19:47 |
lord_rob | ok | 19:47 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: ubuntu 22.04 was based on bookworm/sid when they pulled ferom source initially. After that first pull, it is no longer Debian. | 19:49 |
lord_rob | leftyfb: of course | 19:53 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: so again, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Please be specific | 19:53 |
CosmicDJ | he wants to run wine-devel from the winehq repo, but it needs libc6 (>= 2.38) | 19:54 |
plastikman | Which sounds to me like its not compiled for 23.10 or 22.04 | 19:55 |
lord_rob | well if I'm not specific that's because you're gonna kick me out of the channel, but well. I've installed linuxmint based on latest Ubuntu but I'm astonished that all the versions are soo old | 19:55 |
plastikman | Ubuntu is not a rolling release | 19:56 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: are you running linux mint or ubuntu? | 19:56 |
lord_rob | mint just now, which downloads almost everything from ubuntu repos | 19:56 |
lord_rob | (that's why I feared you were gonna kick me out) | 19:57 |
plastikman | He wont kick you | 19:57 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: ok, so you're looking for help in #ubuntu with installing packages from a 3rd party on an OS that isn't even Ubuntu | 19:57 |
lord_rob | but I am a good Debian user | 19:57 |
leftyfb | !mint | lord_rob | 19:57 |
ubottu | lord_rob: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 19:57 |
plastikman | just tell you to ask in another location. Anyway, I would say your best bet is to just compile from sources. | 19:57 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: I would suggest seeking support from Mint or #winehq | 19:57 |
lord_rob | that's what I feared the most of Debian derivatives, support is different | 20:00 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: correct. You get support from the distro you are running. not the uptream distro it was loosely based on | 20:00 |
lord_rob | well tbh, I recently crashed my pc running SID and I did want to quickly reinstall something I could quickly use. Hence my installation of linuxmint | 20:02 |
leftyfb | lord_rob: let us know when you are running Ubuntu and we'll be glad to support you | 20:03 |
lord_rob | ok thank you, that's why I did not show I was not running Ubuntu. But I think the solution for me is reinstalling Debian | 20:05 |
coderman1 | is there a free pen testing library i can use that generates a report at the end? | 21:10 |
coderman1 | for ubuntu (server) OS | 21:11 |
akik | is this the level of cyber security now? | 21:11 |
coderman1 | for me, yes | 21:12 |
akik | metasploit is free but i don't know of any reports | 21:12 |
leftyfb | coderman1: maybe try #security to find the application you are looking for and then check the ubuntu repositories | 21:13 |
Guest95 | hi | 21:46 |
Guest95 | chat die 2024 rip πππππ rip OMG!! | 21:49 |
leftyfb | Guest95: this is a support channel | 21:49 |
Guest95 | my bad | 21:49 |
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Random6 | Hello | 23:54 |
Random6 | I have a question for you all | 23:54 |
Random6 | I am having issues with textures in pc games via steam. I have a gaming laptop that suddenly presents with issues on both Windows 10 and 11, as well as Linux / Debian. | 23:55 |
Random6 | ^ The issue is in regards to quality of textures; Regardless of what setting I have in-game, or through nvidia control panel, or even messing with .ini config files, reinstalling operating systems, reinstalling steam, reinstalling games - makes absolutely no difference. | 23:56 |
Random6 | Does anyone know how to fix this issue? | 23:56 |
sarnold | monitor cables are fickle and can have weird results when they go bad or get poor connections | 23:58 |
Random6 | Thanks for the suggestions sarnold. It is on a gaming laptop with a 1080p screen and 144hz | 23:58 |
Random6 | The issue suddenly started after 4 years of normal use. | 23:58 |
sarnold | you'll probably need to post screenshots of the problems (clearly indicate what's wrong with them) on a site like askubuntu.com or your video card vendor's support websites etc | 23:58 |
Random6 | I can do that | 23:58 |
sarnold | but if you're just stuck and out of ideas, the cables might be worth a shot | 23:59 |
Random6 | I have one actually. The issue is not graphical glitches, it is just as though the texture settings are stuck on low no matter what settings. | 23:59 |
Random6 | The cable inside the laptop? | 23:59 |
Random6 | Ribbon cable for monitor? | 23:59 |
sarnold | ah no, i'm accustomed to folks having external monitors of some sort ;) | 23:59 |
Random6 | ok | 23:59 |
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