[19:03] <klax> hello guys, regarding ESM, if we get the source code of an application from the ESM repo, are we allowed to build packages from it and install it on non-ESM servers
[19:04] <klax> or this would be a breach of the licence
[19:11] <rbasak> klax: it's not really up to us to make legal determinations. None of us here can speak for Canonical Legal!
[19:13] <rbasak> klax: I expect (but am not sure) that https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy applies, and there's a contact form there if you need it.
[19:14] <klax> thanks rbasak.. obviously just wonder if someone else found himself in the same dilemma, not asking anything authoritative
[19:15] <klax> from that page I see "Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, certified or provided by Canonical if you are going to associate it with the Trademarks. Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to recompile the source code to create your own binaries. "
[19:16] <klax> hmm yeah may need to contact canonical
[23:35] <MTecknology> What's ESM?
[23:36] <sarnold> it started out as just support after the usual end-of-life of an LTS release, and has since changed a bit to also include support for universe packages
[23:37] <MTecknology> ah, so just an "extended support" package?
[23:38] <sarnold> yeah; you can see the current list of universe packages that have security fixes via eg https://esm.ubuntu.com/apps/ubuntu/dists/jammy-apps-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[23:42] <MTecknology>  I imagine their IP policy says that you can't redistribute things, but point #2 basically acknowledges they might not get that authority.
[23:43] <sarnold> i'm not a lawyer and can't speak for the company in this matter ;) but I assume it's the usual "you get the source under the appropriate source license but the built binary objects are special" kind of thing
[23:43] <MTecknology> klax left? I was gonna say that if they're using it just internally, then they can generally do whatever they want, especially since they clearly have an active subscription.
[23:47] <MTecknology> sarnold: Hey! Wanna help me write documentation?!! :D
[23:48] <sarnold> MTecknology: noooooooope :)
[23:49] <MTecknology> even if it's for a good cause? helping those that can't help themselves?
[23:49] <MTecknology> (human cent-i-pads)