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| blaze | is noble currently missing clang-tidy package? | 16:11 |
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| blaze | I'm getting missing dependecy error on LP | 16:11 |
| blaze | Missing build dependencies: clang-tidy | 16:11 |
| blaze | me confuse | 16:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <sgmoore> https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/clang-tidy ? | 16:13 |
| blaze | yes this one | 16:13 |
| sgmoore | is it possible you don't have universe enabled? | 16:18 |
| blaze | rather sbuild deps resolver | 16:22 |
| arraybolt3 | So... I just discovered while testing the Kubuntu beta RC that the package customization module isn't actually set up for Kubuntu at all :P Just got to fixing that. | 20:27 |
| arraybolt3 | For the minimal install option, what does everyone here think about purging the following list of packages: | 20:27 |
| arraybolt3 | kmahjongg kmines kpat ksudoku skanlite skanpage okular libreoffice* kdeconnec t krdc konversation neochat elisa haruna vim snapd partitionmanager usb-creator* plasma-welcome kde-config-tablet plasma-welcome | 20:27 |
| arraybolt3 | ? | 20:27 |
| arraybolt3 | (hmm, vim seems to have made my "kdeconnect" look weird) | 20:28 |
| arraybolt3 | sgmoore: ^ | 20:28 |
| sgmoore | arraybolt3: um why? | 20:37 |
| sgmoore | oh minimal. sure thats fine | 20:37 |
| mmikowski | sgmoore RikMills arraybolt3: Something to watch out for: On 22.04.4 LTS, when installing Gimp, the package wslu got pulled to "provide www-browser" per 'ubiquity why wslu'. This is /extremely/ bad, as it breaks OEM mode, sound, and spams the syslog. | 20:51 |
| arraybolt3 | s/ubiquity/aptitude/ | 20:52 |
| arraybolt3 | mmikowski: ^ ? | 20:52 |
| mmikowski | I discovered this in Cubic when creating the OEM image with a few apps like this installed. haha, yes, you're right aaron. s/ubiquity/aptitude/g. :) | 20:53 |
| mmikowski | I'm going to start fresh again today and will report what I see. But until then, FYI and you might want to keep an eye out :) | 20:54 |
| sgmoore | ah firefox as a snap bites again | 20:56 |
| mmikowski | https://kfocus.org/wf/browsers#bkm_firefox <= succinct, how to replace. | 20:57 |
| mmikowski | Just updated yesterday and tested. | 20:58 |
| mmikowski | sgmoore ^^, if that's of any help. | 21:07 |
| valorie | arraybolt3: purging all those is OK by me | 21:08 |
| mmikowski | Firefox snap worked so well last time, they decided to move Thunderbird there too I guess. It will be interesting to see how that works. | 21:08 |
| valorie | libreoffice is enormous | 21:08 |
| valorie | errr, not vim? | 21:08 |
| valorie | that is a religion with some.... | 21:09 |
| arraybolt3 | valorie: I mean the user can always install Vim again. | 21:14 |
| valorie | of course | 21:14 |
| arraybolt3 | And for probably 70% of people it won't be used (assuming half of everyone who uses Kubuntu is a developer and over half of developers use Vim) | 21:14 |
| valorie | I personally do not use | 21:14 |
| mmikowski | valorie: vim is expected everywhere for a minimal install. The difference between vim.tiny and vim.nox is negligible. | 21:26 |
| mmikowski | At least by developers :) | 21:28 |
| sgmoore | I use vim... | 21:29 |
| mmikowski | Even developers who don't normally use vim normally expect it to be available in some form. | 21:29 |
| sgmoore | though I admit I am used to installing it immediately after install and kicking nano out | 21:30 |
| mmikowski | I think all developers here (arraybolt3, mmikowski, sgmoore) all use vim. I think Rik does too. | 21:31 |
| arraybolt3 | mmikowski: well `vi` (vim-tiny) is still there, it's only the fully-fledged somewhat bloated Vim that I was considering non-minimal. | 21:31 |
| sgmoore | sounds like it could safely get the boot | 21:32 |
| mmikowski | Yeah, well compressed, vim-nox comes in at, wait for it, 1.5 MB. | 21:32 |
| mmikowski | There are images in libreoffice that are larger. | 21:32 |
| mmikowski | Actually, it's 1.9 MB. Whoops. | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3 | what is vim-nox? | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3 | (generally a `sudo apt install vim` pulls in 40+ MiB of stuff in my experience) | 21:33 |
| mmikowski | full-fledged vim without the gui stuff, iirc. | 21:33 |
| sgmoore | there is a vim with a gui? | 21:34 |
| arraybolt3 | vim-gtk3, yes | 21:34 |
| mmikowski | `Description-en: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with scripting languages support | 21:34 |
| mmikowski | Vim is an almost compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi.` | 21:34 |
| mmikowski | hahaha! Scarlett! lol! | 21:34 |
| sgmoore | hah neat | 21:34 |
| mmikowski | gvim. | 21:34 |
| sgmoore | I think kate supports vim with a plugin | 21:34 |
| arraybolt3 | it has a Vi mode in it, it isn't *awesome* but it's not terrible either. | 21:35 |
| mmikowski | it has vim key bindings. but it doesn't support your .vimrc. I found it quite limited last time I tried it. | 21:35 |
| mmikowski | Now IntelliJ vim support is almost complete. I run macros in there all the time. C-J to format Json, etc. all work. | 21:36 |
| mmikowski | sgmoore: You might want to look at the default .vimrc on kfocus. Lots of neat macros there with key bindings. like ;k to clean up all trailing white space, or C-j to format JSON. | 21:37 |
| mmikowski | see /usr/lib/kfocus/skel/.vimrc. | 21:38 |
| sgmoore | oh! nice! whitespace bites me all the time in changelogs lol | 21:38 |
| sgmoore | this laptop is my daily driver, will make use of them, thanks! | 21:38 |
| sgmoore | alright, been up since 1am, I am off for the day, see you all tomorrow for another day of testing and fixes. | 21:39 |
| mmikowski | There's bindings to convert from snake_case to camelCase and vice versa, or round numbers too. | 21:39 |
| mmikowski | See you scarlett! | 21:39 |
| valorie | sorry that my comment stirred up the Cult of VIM | 21:43 |
| valorie | lol | 21:44 |
| mmikowski | valorie: no worries :) It could have been worse: the cult of NANO! (shrieks of horror!) | 22:00 |
| mparillo | https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html | 22:23 |
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