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| adrien | sergiodj: AFAIU you did most of the work for debuginfod support (thanks btw!) and I'm wondering if it's available to autopkgtest which would imply the data for the package built/tested would be available through debuginfod which sounds like it would require additional work | 14:33 |
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| adrien | an alternative is to add a depend on the dbgsym package for the tests which is easy to do per-package but I'm wondering which way to prefer | 14:34 |
| adrien | thanks :) | 14:34 |
| adrien | oops, wrong channel, sorry, should have been -devel probably | 14:38 |
| schopin | adrien: fwiw, I think symbols are available as soon as a package is published in -proposed. | 14:53 |
| adrien | schopin: good to know; unfortunately I'm testing a PPA | 14:54 |
| adrien | discourse is still down as far as I can tell so I guess we can put a short status here (let me know if someone sees discourse as up) | 14:55 |
| adrien | (it's failing at some step, it's not completely down, so probably not network-related) | 14:56 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 14:57 |
| zhsj | o/ | 14:58 |
| sergiodj | adrien: PPAs are not indexed by our debuginfod instance, unfortunately. otherwise, it's what schopin said: when packages are published in -proposed debuginfod will index them within 2 hours | 14:58 |
| sergiodj | (actually, _some_ special PPAs are indexed, but they're related to ESM) | 14:59 |
| adrien | short status: mostly libtracefs MIR for which tests are now running, but that means I get to learn about the many many failures on s390x and ppc64el; also looking at updating gnutls and openssl to their latest versions (no new openssl version is published but maybe a git tag will make sense) | 14:59 |
| liushuyu | o/ | 14:59 |
| ogayot | o/ | 15:00 |
| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:00 |
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| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:00 |
| mkukri | o/ | 15:00 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-04-11 | 15:00 |
| adrien | sergiodj: thanks, and I think that makes sense, you probably don't want to have everything from all PPAs there; I think I'll add a dependency on dbgsym, at least because it will help me get useful traces for s390x and ppc64el test failures | 15:00 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:00 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 15:01 |
| sergiodj | adrien: yeah, sorry about that | 15:01 |
| pushkarnk | o/ | 15:01 |
| Skia | 1o/ | 15:02 |
| upils_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| adrien | oh, no dbsym package | 15:03 |
| slyon | discourse still down.. | 15:03 |
| juliank | Hmm | 15:04 |
| schopin | shall we move on directly to triaging then? | 15:04 |
| ravikant_ | o/ | 15:04 |
| juliank | let's go | 15:04 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:05 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:05 |
| juliank | bug 2060311 | 15:05 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2060311 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Setting 'optional: true' to overcome he timeout 'Job systemd-networkd-wait-online' does no longer work with latest noble image" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2060311 | 15:05 | |
| slyon | we shoudl tag and take it | 15:05 |
| slyon | I started some work related to this today: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/455 | 15:06 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 455 in canonical/netplan "Create individual systemd-networkd-wait-online@.service units" [Open] | 15:06 | |
| enr0n | +1 | 15:06 |
| juliank | slyon: ack | 15:07 |
| juliank | slyon: assigned the netplan to you and tagged it todo | 15:07 |
| slyon | thx! | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | take for the final release? | 15:07 |
| juliank | Should we set milestone 24.04? | 15:07 |
| juliank | slyon: ^ | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | Yes, a milestone would help the release team have visibility into it. | 15:08 |
| slyon | not sure.. I cannot yet estimate the side effects | 15:08 |
| enr0n | IMO yes. Otherwise we are asking for a fun flood of bug reports about this | 15:09 |
| juliank | Not sure + yes is a yes | 15:09 |
| slyon | alright | 15:09 |
| juliank | tagged | 15:10 |
| juliank | targeted to 24.04 | 15:10 |
| juliank | bug 2060581 is already staged so untagged it | 15:11 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2060581 in apport (Ubuntu) "stop shipping debian-installer package hook" [Low, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2060581 | 15:11 | |
| juliank | bug 2060220 seems straightforward | 15:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2060220 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Prevent release upgrades for users running on armhf" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2060220 | 15:13 | |
| vorlon | juliank: I saw a package that needed to migrate but it had picked up a versioned dep on your libdebian-installer NCR ;P | 15:13 |
| schopin | I don't know. I think the problem raised here that you'll get a mix of 23.10 and 24.04 packages is already the case on any other arch? | 15:14 |
| juliank | sigh | 15:14 |
| juliank | This isn't _really_ a problem | 15:14 |
| juliank | u-r-u offers to remove obsolete packages (mantic-noble/jammy-noble) | 15:14 |
| vorlon | as I said in the bug comment I think this should be a raspi-specific quirk | 15:15 |
| vorlon | since that's the supported platform whose kernel gets dropped | 15:15 |
| waveform | indeed | 15:15 |
| juliank | I think it should be a quirk for some "key packages" | 15:15 |
| vorlon | and we shouldn't let users think they've upgraded to a supported LTS when the #1 CVE target is unsupported | 15:15 |
| juliank | I mean block upgrades if any package they use from main got dropped | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | How can we check if they are on an RPi? | 15:17 |
| juliank | check the kernel | 15:18 |
| waveform | hmm, checking for linux-raspi is usually a good sign, but theoretically isn't enough | 15:18 |
| juliank | linux-raspi-* | 15:18 |
| juliank | linux-image-raspi-* | 15:18 |
| waveform | (if it's installed it may not be flashed as the actual booting kernel; so uname -r with a -raspi suffix is probably a good sign for the running kernel) | 15:18 |
| waveform | alternately, check for raspberrypi in /proc/device-tree/compatible if it exists | 15:19 |
| waveform | (substring) | 15:19 |
| juliank | I think package is more interesting tbh | 15:20 |
| waveform | package can be installed (but not flashed) on generic arm64 hardware | 15:20 |
| waveform | (yes, that's stupid, but possible :) | 15:21 |
| juliank | I know but still the image as a whole would be unsupported | 15:21 |
| juliank | maybe you are building the image on your other arm64 hardware and then want to put it into a pi | 15:21 |
| juliank | :D | 15:21 |
| waveform | but the test is for "are we running on a pi?" | 15:21 |
| juliank | Yes, but I prefer to be safe than sorry :D | 15:22 |
| juliank | And that gives us an easier way to mark other packages | 15:23 |
| juliank | Anyway | 15:23 |
| juliank | let's move on | 15:23 |
| juliank | bug 1951491 | 15:23 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1951491 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Can't run snaps: .slice/session-1.scope is not a snap cgroup" [High, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951491 | 15:23 | |
| juliank | Ah yes I marked that incomplete | 15:24 |
| juliank | I forgot to drop the tag | 15:24 |
| juliank | There's like 3 bugs in this bug that people talk about | 15:24 |
| juliank | moving on, mm is empty, so | 15:25 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:25 |
| juliank | bug 2058743 | 15:25 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2058743 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd local DNS tests failing with timeout" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2058743 | 15:25 | |
| juliank | Sounds like a todo | 15:25 |
| juliank | do I get a second? | 15:25 |
| juliank | Leaving that to the server team as it is a regression in dnsmasq, subscribed them | 15:27 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:27 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:28 |
| vorlon | does it load? | 15:28 |
| juliank | (I forgot to say: ff was empty) | 15:28 |
| juliank | vorlon: it's quiten ice | 15:28 |
| vorlon | not bad | 15:28 |
| vorlon | 17 packages needing attention, 214 packages not yet considered late | 15:28 |
| vorlon | oy who uploaded 214 packages | 15:28 |
| juliank | o/ | 15:28 |
| schopin | I wanna blame Julian | 15:28 |
| vorlon | :| | 15:28 |
| vorlon | right, so a short enough list we can actually assign | 15:30 |
| vorlon | usb.ids: liushuyu please? | 15:30 |
| vorlon | bzip2: schopin? | 15:30 |
| schopin | vorlon: ack | 15:30 |
| vorlon | gcc-14-cross: doko: you commented about demotions but it looks like you haven't done whatever re-promotions are required here, I'll leave this with you | 15:31 |
| vorlon | nullboot: just unblocked this by removing the arm64 binary from the release pocket, will migrate | 15:31 |
| liushuyu | vorlon: understood | 15:31 |
| vorlon | sphinx vs xorg-server: ravikant_? | 15:31 |
| ravikant_ | vorlon: ack | 15:31 |
| vorlon | python-packaging: pushkarnk | 15:32 |
| vorlon | gcc-11: upils_ | 15:32 |
| pushkarnk | vorlon: ack | 15:32 |
| upils_ | ack | 15:32 |
| vorlon | upils_: you'll probably end up coordinating w/ doko but he's not here right now, so anyway :) | 15:32 |
| upils_ | noted | 15:32 |
| vorlon | golang-1.22: zhsj | 15:32 |
| vorlon | avahi: ogayot | 15:33 |
| ogayot | vorlon: ack | 15:33 |
| vorlon | tzdata: bdrung | 15:33 |
| zhsj | ack | 15:33 |
| schopin | just to be clear, the freeze block hint is going to be lifted once beta is out, right? | 15:34 |
| vorlon | nfs-utils vs libnfs hmm ahasenack has been looking at this for the server team. enr0n can you work with him on this to sort out if this is a baseline regression and we should ignore the s390x failure? | 15:34 |
| vorlon | openjdk-21 vs cups: mateus-morais | 15:35 |
| enr0n | vorlon: ack | 15:35 |
| mateus-morais | vorlon: ack | 15:35 |
| vorlon | pci.ids: looks to be the same fusioninventory-agent failure as for usb.ids so giving this to liushuyu also | 15:35 |
| vorlon | heh openjdk-21 blocked because it makes openjdk-23's tests fail on arm64? | 15:36 |
| vorlon | mkukri: openjdk-21 vs openjdk-23 please | 15:36 |
| liushuyu | vorlon: okay | 15:36 |
| mkukri | mkukri: ack | 15:36 |
| * mkukri fears java | 15:36 | |
| vorlon | mtd-utils: slyon | 15:36 |
| slyon | ack | 15:36 |
| vorlon | mkukri: it may just require test retries :) | 15:36 |
| vorlon | anyway that's all the list for today | 15:37 |
| vorlon | juliank: | 15:37 |
| vorlon | (we'll want to get as much of the rest through before release as possible, but those no-change rebuilds are by and large not critical and I won't assign them out) | 15:38 |
| Skia | just to be sure everyone know: we've had a lot of "no space left on device" issues recently on autopkgtest. If a log appears cropped, it's probably due to that, and you better retry it right away. | 15:38 |
| vorlon | schopin: yes we lift the proposed-migration freeze after beta (but leave the archive freeze in place) | 15:38 |
| schopin | thanks | 15:39 |
| juliank | oh | 15:41 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:41 |
| vorlon | nothing here! | 15:42 |
| ahasenack | vorlon: just saw the highlight on nfs-utils | 15:44 |
| ahasenack | it's a kernel bug, ibm found the commit that broke it, and sent a patch to the kernel list (upstream) | 15:44 |
| ahasenack | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/2060217 | 15:45 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2060217 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "NFSv4 fails to mount in noble/s390x" [High, Triaged] | 15:45 | |
| vorlon | ahasenack: so would a baseline retest clear this as a regression? | 15:45 |
| ahasenack | migration-reference? If it runs on the same host kernel, yes | 15:45 |
| vorlon | yes | 15:46 |
| juliank | OK I think that's it | 15:48 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:48:02 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-04-11-15.00.moin.txt | 15:48 |
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