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mybalzitchlol when [wipes] is in the subtitles03:24
mybalzitchoops03:24
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pickanick22.04: I issued "sudo snap refresh" while I was connected to a slow network. I tried to stop snap refresh with ^C and eventually backgrounded it and killed it. I switched to a faster network and tried to run "sudo snap refresh"  again but "snap refresh" says "All snaps up to date. " while "snap refresh firefox" says  "error: snap "firefox" has "refresh-snap" change in progress" whereas there is no significant activity on network.03:57
pickanickQ: How do I confirm the situation  and reset the state so refresh will complete? My guess would be that there is no refresh-snap change in progress but there is a flag set somewhere that was not cleaned up properly when snap refresh was killed.03:57
mybalzitchis firefox still running?03:58
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pickanickmybalzitch: no I had quit all firefox before attempting update04:29
pickanickWas there any answer to my question a half hour ago? I lost IRC connection04:31
mybalzitchno sorry04:32
mybalzitchrestart snapd?04:32
Bashing-ompickanick: Maybe try ' sudo snap refresh firefox-snap '?04:33
pickanick@mybalzitch: do you mean "systemctl restart snapd.service" or some other item?04:34
mybalzitchyes04:36
pickanickhm now "snap refresh" is doing something with snap "core20", but very slowly04:36
tarzeaui usually remove snap and install only using .deb: https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/blob/master/config.sys/ubuntu-remove-snap-firefox04:36
pickanicktarzeau: I can see why.04:36
tarzeaubecause i had another snapped firefox not starting and needed a browser other than links2. it was much faster without snap, and i never liked the phone home and report how many users/hosts use snap to canonical04:37
pickanickhmm now its completed and firefox is updated.  black box.04:38
pickanickIt just took an hour or more. usually ~ a minute, or seconds.04:39
pickanickthanks all04:39
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kmobHello! How to protect my login from someone who may change my password using Terminal?11:54
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WalexDFor non-snap Ubuntu three main options: Mozilla Firefox repos for Debian/Ubuntu, Firefox ESR repository, Firefox "unofficial" Mozilla Team repository.12:15
WalexI also install MS-Edge as a fallback. Brave is another good fallbaxck.12:16
BalavnikHi12:46
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nidutsHello14:15
niduts@everyone14:15
nidutsnigger14:15
niduts<b>b<b>14:16
V1Atest14:51
semitonesHey everyone, how do I switch L and R audio in Lubuntu 22.04? Does this solution from 10.04 still reference the same software? https://superuser.com/questions/59481/how-to-swap-stereo-channels-in-ubuntu/144252#14425215:01
fwehthello, i just installed xubuntu and vscode-insiders, but when i try to activate sync in vscode, it hangs forever...  anyone else had this problem?15:02
bunjeeWhat is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?15:03
fwehti assume it tries to connect to the browser for the login but the handler is not working?15:03
constxdhi lads15:05
constxdso i have a upstart service right and this is what's contained in its script stanza15:05
constxdstart-stop-daemon --start --quiet -d /var/foo -c myuser:myuser --make-pidfile --pidfile /var/run/myservice.pid --exec $DAEMON >>/var/foo/myservice.out 2>&115:06
leftyfbconstxd: you really should use a systemd service.15:06
constxdi know but i can't15:06
constxdthe problem is myservice.out is not being created15:07
constxdthe program is running though15:07
bunjeeWhat is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?15:07
leftyfbconstxd: why can't you use a systemd service?15:07
fwehtaah cool it works now the problem was just that firefox wasnt my default browser :)15:07
constxdleftyfb, idk we are using systemd now and shipping ubuntu 20.04 but we have a lot of legacy systems deployed using upstart on ubuntu 14.0415:10
constxdim sure it is possible to use systemd instead but i don't think that's the root issue here15:11
constxdi just wanna know why the file isn't being created15:11
leftyfbconstxd: 14.04 was EOL almost 5 years ago15:13
constxdthanks15:16
semitonesbunjee: I think etcher is a Windows program15:17
leftyfbit's not15:18
semitonesDoes pulseaudio work the same way now as in 10.04? Is there a graphical way to switch L and R channels?15:18
tomreynbunjee: https://github.com/balena-io/etcher#debian-and-ubuntu-based-package-repository-gnulinux-x86x6415:23
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semitonesTurns out it almost worked (I think)15:55
semitonespactl get-default-sink doesn't work15:55
semitonesBut pactl list sinks works15:55
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tnt_yeeter45meow16:20
philiptest16:21
philipexit16:21
bunjeetomreyn:I don't know what the ***** are for.16:32
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bunjeeWhat is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?16:39
leftyfbbunjee: why do you think you need it?16:40
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bunjeeleftyfb: I just saw it being installed on a video I watched. Does K3b do the same thing and can I use it in Windows?16:51
leftyfbbunjee: etcher is used to write iso's and other disk image files to removal storage devices. Usually to write an ubuntu install .iso to a cd or usb16:52
leftyfbbunjee: you'll have to ask in #windows for Windows related questions16:52
DiagonWhen Gnome locks the screen, and I return/ login, I'm presented with a blank screen.  I can C-A-F3, but I can't find a way to get the screen back and have to reboot.  Ideas?17:07
atleDiagon: maybe this could do it: sudo systemctl restart gdm17:10
leftyfbatle: that's basically the same thing as rebooting17:11
leftyfbDiagon: what release of ubuntu is this and which kernel are you running?17:11
Diagon22.04, kernel 6.5.0-2717:12
DiagonI had this problem maybe 9 months ago, but it was occasional and ultimately went away.  Now it's /every time/.17:12
Diagonatle/ I've done that.17:13
leftyfbDiagon: have you checked if you're running the appropriate GPU drivers?17:13
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DiagonI'm running nouveau17:15
leftyfb!nvidia | Diagon17:16
ubottuDiagon: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers17:16
leftyfbI'd suggest trying the nvidia drivers17:16
DiagonThanks, but I don't want to use proprietary drivers, and these have worked fine for 4 years now (20.04 and 22.04).17:17
leftyfb!bug | Diagon ok, feel free to report a bug against the nouveau drivers17:18
ubottuDiagon ok, feel free to report a bug against the nouveau drivers: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.17:18
tuxickthen don't buy nvidia :)17:18
DiagonHow can you be sure it's the driver?17:18
leftyfbDiagon: it's called troubleshooting17:19
DiagonCinnamon's a derivative of Gnome, and this guy concluded it was his wallpaper settings (I haven't tried yet): https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=37949917:20
DiagonI suspect there's more needed to troubleshoot.17:20
bunjeeleftyfb: If balena etcher website has Linux listed as a download I would think I could acquire it from there....no?17:25
leftyfbbunjee: sure17:26
leftyfbbunjee: mind you, there's a usb writing application built into ubuntu17:26
bunjeeleftyfb: I want you to know I am really new to Linux. What is it named?17:28
leftyfbStartup Disk Creator17:28
ioriaDiagon, you can try this : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1414/unblank/17:30
Diagonioria / that's interesting.  Thank you, I'll try.17:32
ioriaok17:32
bunjeeleftfb: I can't find anything in Ubuntu 22.04that reads start up disk creator.17:37
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Diagon_Hm.  I changed the background image, and now after a reboot "Settings" is freezing up on me.  I have to force quit.17:42
mohanadhekk\17:57
mohanadhello17:57
webchat23If I install the development version, I can just keep updating and I will reach the final version ?18:02
leftyfbwebchat23: short answer, yes18:02
leftyfb!next | webchat2318:02
ubottuwebchat23: Noble Numbat is the codename for Ubuntu 24.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.18:02
webchat23Ok thanks, just keep updating ?18:05
DiagonWell then - I opened "Extensions", toggled one off, and it completely froze Gnome.  I had to do a hard shutdown.  I'm tired of this DE.18:06
leftyfbDiagon: the default one?18:06
DiagonYup.18:06
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marlonottDiagon youre off to using unity then how to: sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop -y18:09
leftyfbDiagon: or you should just try to change the driver to nvidia to see if the issues get resolved18:10
DiagonWhat's the state of unity these days?  I was going to change the DE for 24.04, but not being too enthusiastic about KDE, honetly there's not a lot out there.18:10
webchat23well basically the question is, if I install the development version and just keep updating it, will I reach the final version of 24.04 ?18:10
leftyfbwebchat23: you were already told, yes18:11
xanguaDownload and try it Diagon18:11
younderThe documentation said if you attach a machine to a ubuntu pro subscription 22.04.4 should give me a 26.6 kernel if I do a full-upgrade. This works on my desktop, but it doesn't wok on my RasPI4. Why?18:12
leftyfbyounder: the pi is a different architecture with different repos18:13
marlonottmy puppy is barking because she hates linux lol18:13
leftyfbmarlonott: not here please18:13
webchat23Thanks18:13
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riOwnageI have file system checks each time I boot Ubuntu. I looked at my /dev/sdXY UUID and are the same in fstab. I want to do a reinstallation.19:17
riOwnageI'm planning to format and create partitions: /, /home, /boot and swap. Any (other) recommendations?19:17
DiagonSo I installed unity (and cinnamon), rebooted (to gdm), got the gear icon in the lower right, but clicking on it gives me /nothing/!  How can I fix that to use another DE?19:37
anadonCan someone update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel ?   I'm  trying to follow these instructions, but they do not seem to work.  Any sort of tweaking I've tried has also been unsuccessful.  I think this needs to be touched by  someone who knows the current procedure already.19:37
Diagon(marlonott ? ^^^+1)19:37
anadon   Diagon: You're in No Man's land.   Almost like XDG got  nuked.19:40
Diagonanadon / not sure of the implications.  I know of xdg-open, but what are you refering to?19:42
anadon Diagon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/desktop_entries19:44
anadonArchwiki is amazing.19:44
Diagondebsums is reporting no errors.  I'm running btrfs on RAID1, and I scrubbed it with no errors.19:49
DiagonNot sure how XDG relates to the display manager; but I have noticed for some time, I may have to repeatedly start a snap to get it going (eg. chromium two or 3 or 4 times, same with ff)19:51
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anadonDiagon: XDG is the set of standards set forth by the Free Desktop Group from which Display Managers and Desktop Environments base a common set of standards for interoperability.20:02
anadonIf something is malconfigured in one of the related files, it'll take out any number of Desktop specific functionality and configuration.  That sounds very specifically like your problem.20:03
DiagonIn /usr/share/xsessions, I have:20:04
Diagoncinnamon2d.desktop  cinnamon.desktop  gnome-classic.desktop  gnome-classic-xorg.desktop  kodi.desktop  ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop  unity.desktop20:04
DiagonNothing in there is "Hidden"20:04
anadonAnd your env?20:10
anadonBut seriously.   I need someone in here who compiles the kernel.  These  instructions just don't work.20:10
anadon I don't want to install arch tonight just to do kernel dev.20:11
binboupananadon: what kind of dev do you want to do?20:11
anadonI need to trace out some misbehaving calls in the fanotify infrastructure.20:12
Diagonanadon / XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=ubuntu-xorg, XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11, XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=ubuntu:GNOME, XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg:/etc/xdg20:12
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anadonbinboupan: The instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel are broken.   `dh_prep: error: "debian/control" not found. Are you sure you are in the correct directory?` at `fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic binary-perarch`.20:14
binboupananadon: Ah, I don't know, I compile my kernel manually with localmodconfig, don't use packages myself20:15
anadon If there are alternate instructions, I'll take them.20:16
anadonEh.    Archwiki and manual copies it is.20:28
tmrolandI wonder why would Canonical choose kernel 6.8 for 24.04 when 6.6 is the LTS kernel21:05
tmrolanddoesn't it make more sense to base a LTS distro on a LTS kernel?21:06
tmrolandespecially if it's recent21:06
anadon@tmroland: Intel Arc drivers, major 6.7 drops.21:10
jeremy31tmroland: Ubuntu can patch their own kernels.21:10
younderIt's 6.5 and it's the one used in 23.04 -  24.04 isn't out yet21:10
tmrolandlook in 24.04 betaq21:14
tmrolandits 6.821:14
tmrolandit would make more sense to backport whatever drivers to a LTS kernel supported upstream for two years21:14
tmrolandall other major enterprise Linux vendors do that21:14
tmrolandRHEL is still 5.1421:15
younderLooks like the release date for 24.04 is april 2521:17
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RickyRat5005Is Livepatch not working on 24.04 (beta) yet?23:08
sarnoldcorrect, it'll work once there are security updates for it23:11
RickyRat5005@sarnold Great, thank you!23:13
devslashI'm guessing by the name that LivePatch means you can update the os without a reboot ?23:16
RickyRat5005@devslach Correct. It's a part of UBUNTU PRO23:18
sarnolddevslash: currently we're only live-patching the kernel; userland programs still need to be restarted to update them23:19
sarnold(well, okay, erlang programs can live-load new code, but the application has to be written for it, and I wonder if the usual erlang applications packaged for ubuntu use this mechanism or not :)23:19
devslashI see cool23:19
RickyRat5005I am loving 24.04... OMG This is fast!23:20
RickyRat5005And I like the change in the look as well.23:20
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devslashRickyRat whats different about the UI?23:23
RickyRat5005@devslash I would be hard pressed to come up with a lot of specifics to be honest. But there are for sure subtle differences. https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/ubuntu-24-0423:26
sarnoldheh, the first bullet point is a bit off .. *trusty* is the first to get twelve year support, 24.04 is still ten years away from entering that territory :)23:27
RickyRat5005The performance is incredible.23:28
RickyRat5005Feels like a completely different OS23:28
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Guest7029yoooooooooooooo23:40
arraybolt3heya23:41
arraybolt3Anything we can help you with?23:41
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PrunersI'm in a mess, I have a login set on a server I have, moved it and the computer to another location, I guess the IP address changed, and I don't know the command line commands well enough to figure what to do to log in to the server.23:46
Prunersip a       gives me information, but I can't use the information.23:47
sarnoldtry ip a | grep inet23:47
sarnoldthat'll simplify it a bit to the lines with ip addresses on them23:48
sarnoldthen you can try to ssh to that ip address from your other computer23:48
Prunersyes  thank you    ip a | grep inet   seems to produce more worthwhile information23:55
PrunersI wish I knew how to interpret the result.   One line says  "inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo" I wonder what that means23:58

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