[00:25] <megaman> hello?>
[00:25] <megaman> are there other ppl on here/
[00:25] <megaman> ?
[00:26] <megaman> type 1 if yes
[00:26] <arraybolt3> margan-u2: 1
[00:26] <arraybolt3> wrong ping
[00:26] <megaman> holy sht
[00:26] <arraybolt3> but yes, there are other people here
[00:26] <megaman> what is this?
[00:26] <arraybolt3> Official technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[00:26] <arraybolt3> (You can type /topic and press Enter for a full description)
[00:26] <megaman> amaranth... : )
[00:26] <megaman> heyy
[00:27] <megaman> lols
[00:27] <megaman> okay im done
[00:27] <megaman> okay well yall stay healthy and peace !
[00:27] <megaman> exit
[03:24] <mybalzitch> lol when [wipes] is in the subtitles
[03:24] <mybalzitch> oops
[03:57] <pickanick> 22.04: I issued "sudo snap refresh" while I was connected to a slow network. I tried to stop snap refresh with ^C and eventually backgrounded it and killed it. I switched to a faster network and tried to run "sudo snap refresh"  again but "snap refresh" says "All snaps up to date. " while "snap refresh firefox" says  "error: snap "firefox" has "refresh-snap" change in progress" whereas there is no significant activity on network.
[03:57] <pickanick> Q: How do I confirm the situation  and reset the state so refresh will complete? My guess would be that there is no refresh-snap change in progress but there is a flag set somewhere that was not cleaned up properly when snap refresh was killed.
[03:58] <mybalzitch> is firefox still running?
[04:29] <pickanick> mybalzitch: no I had quit all firefox before attempting update
[04:31] <pickanick> Was there any answer to my question a half hour ago? I lost IRC connection
[04:32] <mybalzitch> no sorry
[04:32] <mybalzitch> restart snapd?
[04:33] <Bashing-om> pickanick: Maybe try ' sudo snap refresh firefox-snap '?
[04:34] <pickanick> @mybalzitch: do you mean "systemctl restart snapd.service" or some other item?
[04:36] <mybalzitch> yes
[04:36] <pickanick> hm now "snap refresh" is doing something with snap "core20", but very slowly
[04:36] <tarzeau> i usually remove snap and install only using .deb: https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/blob/master/config.sys/ubuntu-remove-snap-firefox
[04:36] <pickanick> tarzeau: I can see why.
[04:37] <tarzeau> because i had another snapped firefox not starting and needed a browser other than links2. it was much faster without snap, and i never liked the phone home and report how many users/hosts use snap to canonical
[04:38] <pickanick> hmm now its completed and firefox is updated.  black box.
[04:39] <pickanick> It just took an hour or more. usually ~ a minute, or seconds.
[04:39] <pickanick> thanks all
[11:54] <kmob> Hello! How to protect my login from someone who may change my password using Terminal?
[12:15] <Walex> DFor non-snap Ubuntu three main options: Mozilla Firefox repos for Debian/Ubuntu, Firefox ESR repository, Firefox "unofficial" Mozilla Team repository.
[12:16] <Walex> I also install MS-Edge as a fallback. Brave is another good fallbaxck.
[12:46] <Balavnik> Hi
[14:15] <niduts> Hello
[14:15] <niduts> @everyone
[14:15] <niduts> nigger
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[14:51] <V1A> test
[15:01] <semitones> Hey everyone, how do I switch L and R audio in Lubuntu 22.04? Does this solution from 10.04 still reference the same software? https://superuser.com/questions/59481/how-to-swap-stereo-channels-in-ubuntu/144252#144252
[15:02] <fweht> hello, i just installed xubuntu and vscode-insiders, but when i try to activate sync in vscode, it hangs forever...  anyone else had this problem?
[15:03] <bunjee> What is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?
[15:03] <fweht> i assume it tries to connect to the browser for the login but the handler is not working?
[15:05] <constxd> hi lads
[15:05] <constxd> so i have a upstart service right and this is what's contained in its script stanza
[15:06] <constxd> start-stop-daemon --start --quiet -d /var/foo -c myuser:myuser --make-pidfile --pidfile /var/run/myservice.pid --exec $DAEMON >>/var/foo/myservice.out 2>&1
[15:06] <leftyfb> constxd: you really should use a systemd service.
[15:06] <constxd> i know but i can't
[15:07] <constxd> the problem is myservice.out is not being created
[15:07] <constxd> the program is running though
[15:07] <bunjee> What is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?
[15:07] <leftyfb> constxd: why can't you use a systemd service?
[15:07] <fweht> aah cool it works now the problem was just that firefox wasnt my default browser :)
[15:10] <constxd> leftyfb, idk we are using systemd now and shipping ubuntu 20.04 but we have a lot of legacy systems deployed using upstart on ubuntu 14.04
[15:11] <constxd> im sure it is possible to use systemd instead but i don't think that's the root issue here
[15:11] <constxd> i just wanna know why the file isn't being created
[15:13] <leftyfb> constxd: 14.04 was EOL almost 5 years ago
[15:16] <constxd> thanks
[15:17] <semitones> bunjee: I think etcher is a Windows program
[15:18] <leftyfb> it's not
[15:18] <semitones> Does pulseaudio work the same way now as in 10.04? Is there a graphical way to switch L and R channels?
[15:23] <tomreyn> bunjee: https://github.com/balena-io/etcher#debian-and-ubuntu-based-package-repository-gnulinux-x86x64
[15:55] <semitones> Turns out it almost worked (I think)
[15:55] <semitones> pactl get-default-sink doesn't work
[15:55] <semitones> But pactl list sinks works
[16:20] <tnt_yeeter45> meow
[16:21] <philip> test
[16:21] <philip> exit
[16:32] <bunjee> tomreyn:I don't know what the ***** are for.
[16:39] <bunjee> What is balena etcher and how do I install it in Ubuntu 22.04?
[16:40] <leftyfb> bunjee: why do you think you need it?
[16:51] <bunjee> leftyfb: I just saw it being installed on a video I watched. Does K3b do the same thing and can I use it in Windows?
[16:52] <leftyfb> bunjee: etcher is used to write iso's and other disk image files to removal storage devices. Usually to write an ubuntu install .iso to a cd or usb
[16:52] <leftyfb> bunjee: you'll have to ask in #windows for Windows related questions
[17:07] <Diagon> When Gnome locks the screen, and I return/ login, I'm presented with a blank screen.  I can C-A-F3, but I can't find a way to get the screen back and have to reboot.  Ideas?
[17:10] <atle> Diagon: maybe this could do it: sudo systemctl restart gdm
[17:11] <leftyfb> atle: that's basically the same thing as rebooting
[17:11] <leftyfb> Diagon: what release of ubuntu is this and which kernel are you running?
[17:12] <Diagon> 22.04, kernel 6.5.0-27
[17:12] <Diagon> I had this problem maybe 9 months ago, but it was occasional and ultimately went away.  Now it's /every time/.
[17:13] <Diagon> atle/ I've done that.
[17:13] <leftyfb> Diagon: have you checked if you're running the appropriate GPU drivers?
[17:15] <Diagon> I'm running nouveau
[17:16] <leftyfb> !nvidia | Diagon
[17:16] <leftyfb> I'd suggest trying the nvidia drivers
[17:17] <Diagon> Thanks, but I don't want to use proprietary drivers, and these have worked fine for 4 years now (20.04 and 22.04).
[17:18] <leftyfb> !bug | Diagon ok, feel free to report a bug against the nouveau drivers
[17:18] <tuxick> then don't buy nvidia :)
[17:18] <Diagon> How can you be sure it's the driver?
[17:19] <leftyfb> Diagon: it's called troubleshooting
[17:20] <Diagon> Cinnamon's a derivative of Gnome, and this guy concluded it was his wallpaper settings (I haven't tried yet): https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=379499
[17:20] <Diagon> I suspect there's more needed to troubleshoot.
[17:25] <bunjee> leftyfb: If balena etcher website has Linux listed as a download I would think I could acquire it from there....no?
[17:26] <leftyfb> bunjee: sure
[17:26] <leftyfb> bunjee: mind you, there's a usb writing application built into ubuntu
[17:28] <bunjee> leftyfb: I want you to know I am really new to Linux. What is it named?
[17:28] <leftyfb> Startup Disk Creator
[17:30] <ioria> Diagon, you can try this : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1414/unblank/
[17:32] <Diagon> ioria / that's interesting.  Thank you, I'll try.
[17:32] <ioria> ok
[17:37] <bunjee> leftfb: I can't find anything in Ubuntu 22.04that reads start up disk creator.
[17:42] <Diagon_> Hm.  I changed the background image, and now after a reboot "Settings" is freezing up on me.  I have to force quit.
[17:57] <mohanad> hekk\
[17:57] <mohanad> hello
[18:02] <webchat23> If I install the development version, I can just keep updating and I will reach the final version ?
[18:02] <leftyfb> webchat23: short answer, yes
[18:02] <leftyfb> !next | webchat23
[18:05] <webchat23> Ok thanks, just keep updating ?
[18:06] <Diagon> Well then - I opened "Extensions", toggled one off, and it completely froze Gnome.  I had to do a hard shutdown.  I'm tired of this DE.
[18:06] <leftyfb> Diagon: the default one?
[18:06] <Diagon> Yup.
[18:09] <marlonott> Diagon youre off to using unity then how to: sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop -y
[18:10] <leftyfb> Diagon: or you should just try to change the driver to nvidia to see if the issues get resolved
[18:10] <Diagon> What's the state of unity these days?  I was going to change the DE for 24.04, but not being too enthusiastic about KDE, honetly there's not a lot out there.
[18:10] <webchat23> well basically the question is, if I install the development version and just keep updating it, will I reach the final version of 24.04 ?
[18:11] <leftyfb> webchat23: you were already told, yes
[18:11] <xangua> Download and try it Diagon
[18:12] <younder> The documentation said if you attach a machine to a ubuntu pro subscription 22.04.4 should give me a 26.6 kernel if I do a full-upgrade. This works on my desktop, but it doesn't wok on my RasPI4. Why?
[18:13] <leftyfb> younder: the pi is a different architecture with different repos
[18:13] <marlonott> my puppy is barking because she hates linux lol
[18:13] <leftyfb> marlonott: not here please
[18:13] <webchat23> Thanks
[19:17] <riOwnage> I have file system checks each time I boot Ubuntu. I looked at my /dev/sdXY UUID and are the same in fstab. I want to do a reinstallation.
[19:17] <riOwnage> I'm planning to format and create partitions: /, /home, /boot and swap. Any (other) recommendations?
[19:37] <Diagon> So I installed unity (and cinnamon), rebooted (to gdm), got the gear icon in the lower right, but clicking on it gives me /nothing/!  How can I fix that to use another DE?
[19:37] <anadon> Can someone update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel ?   I'm  trying to follow these instructions, but they do not seem to work.  Any sort of tweaking I've tried has also been unsuccessful.  I think this needs to be touched by  someone who knows the current procedure already.
[19:37] <Diagon> (marlonott ? ^^^+1)
[19:40] <anadon>    Diagon: You're in No Man's land.   Almost like XDG got  nuked.
[19:42] <Diagon> anadon / not sure of the implications.  I know of xdg-open, but what are you refering to?
[19:44] <anadon>  Diagon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/desktop_entries
[19:44] <anadon> Archwiki is amazing.
[19:49] <Diagon> debsums is reporting no errors.  I'm running btrfs on RAID1, and I scrubbed it with no errors.
[19:51] <Diagon> Not sure how XDG relates to the display manager; but I have noticed for some time, I may have to repeatedly start a snap to get it going (eg. chromium two or 3 or 4 times, same with ff)
[20:02] <anadon> Diagon: XDG is the set of standards set forth by the Free Desktop Group from which Display Managers and Desktop Environments base a common set of standards for interoperability.
[20:03] <anadon> If something is malconfigured in one of the related files, it'll take out any number of Desktop specific functionality and configuration.  That sounds very specifically like your problem.
[20:04] <Diagon> In /usr/share/xsessions, I have:
[20:04] <Diagon> cinnamon2d.desktop  cinnamon.desktop  gnome-classic.desktop  gnome-classic-xorg.desktop  kodi.desktop  ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop  unity.desktop
[20:04] <Diagon> Nothing in there is "Hidden"
[20:10] <anadon> And your env?
[20:10] <anadon> But seriously.   I need someone in here who compiles the kernel.  These  instructions just don't work.
[20:11] <anadon>  I don't want to install arch tonight just to do kernel dev.
[20:11] <binboupan> anadon: what kind of dev do you want to do?
[20:12] <anadon> I need to trace out some misbehaving calls in the fanotify infrastructure.
[20:12] <Diagon> anadon / XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=ubuntu-xorg, XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11, XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=ubuntu:GNOME, XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg:/etc/xdg
[20:14] <anadon> binboupan: The instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel are broken.   `dh_prep: error: "debian/control" not found. Are you sure you are in the correct directory?` at `fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic binary-perarch`.
[20:15] <binboupan> anadon: Ah, I don't know, I compile my kernel manually with localmodconfig, don't use packages myself
[20:16] <anadon>  If there are alternate instructions, I'll take them.
[20:28] <anadon> Eh.    Archwiki and manual copies it is.
[21:05] <tmroland> I wonder why would Canonical choose kernel 6.8 for 24.04 when 6.6 is the LTS kernel
[21:06] <tmroland> doesn't it make more sense to base a LTS distro on a LTS kernel?
[21:06] <tmroland> especially if it's recent
[21:10] <anadon> @tmroland: Intel Arc drivers, major 6.7 drops.
[21:10] <jeremy31> tmroland: Ubuntu can patch their own kernels.
[21:10] <younder> It's 6.5 and it's the one used in 23.04 -  24.04 isn't out yet
[21:14] <tmroland> look in 24.04 betaq
[21:14] <tmroland> its 6.8
[21:14] <tmroland> it would make more sense to backport whatever drivers to a LTS kernel supported upstream for two years
[21:14] <tmroland> all other major enterprise Linux vendors do that
[21:15] <tmroland> RHEL is still 5.14
[21:17] <younder> Looks like the release date for 24.04 is april 25
[23:08] <RickyRat5005> Is Livepatch not working on 24.04 (beta) yet?
[23:11] <sarnold> correct, it'll work once there are security updates for it
[23:13] <RickyRat5005> @sarnold Great, thank you!
[23:16] <devslash> I'm guessing by the name that LivePatch means you can update the os without a reboot ?
[23:18] <RickyRat5005> @devslach Correct. It's a part of UBUNTU PRO
[23:19] <sarnold> devslash: currently we're only live-patching the kernel; userland programs still need to be restarted to update them
[23:19] <sarnold> (well, okay, erlang programs can live-load new code, but the application has to be written for it, and I wonder if the usual erlang applications packaged for ubuntu use this mechanism or not :)
[23:19] <devslash> I see cool
[23:20] <RickyRat5005> I am loving 24.04... OMG This is fast!
[23:20] <RickyRat5005> And I like the change in the look as well.
[23:23] <devslash> RickyRat whats different about the UI?
[23:26] <RickyRat5005> @devslash I would be hard pressed to come up with a lot of specifics to be honest. But there are for sure subtle differences. https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/ubuntu-24-04
[23:27] <sarnold> heh, the first bullet point is a bit off .. *trusty* is the first to get twelve year support, 24.04 is still ten years away from entering that territory :)
[23:28] <RickyRat5005> The performance is incredible.
[23:28] <RickyRat5005> Feels like a completely different OS
[23:40] <Guest7029> yoooooooooooooo
[23:41] <arraybolt3> heya
[23:41] <arraybolt3> Anything we can help you with?
[23:46] <Pruners> I'm in a mess, I have a login set on a server I have, moved it and the computer to another location, I guess the IP address changed, and I don't know the command line commands well enough to figure what to do to log in to the server.
[23:47] <Pruners> ip a       gives me information, but I can't use the information.
[23:47] <sarnold> try ip a | grep inet
[23:48] <sarnold> that'll simplify it a bit to the lines with ip addresses on them
[23:48] <sarnold> then you can try to ssh to that ip address from your other computer
[23:55] <Pruners> yes  thank you    ip a | grep inet   seems to produce more worthwhile information
[23:58] <Pruners> I wish I knew how to interpret the result.   One line says  "inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo" I wonder what that means