[05:22] <Bergerag> Good Morning
[05:22] <Bergerag> What would be the best option for virtualisation on ubuntu server ?
[05:23] <Bergerag> only console connection is available
[05:30] <MTecknology> qemu
[05:30] <MTecknology> kvm
[05:30] <rfm> Bergerag, either libvirt or lxd driving kvm, depending on what you're doing
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[05:45] <Bergerag> hmm i was thinking vserver or openVZ but not sure what would be best on hosting different services on virtual servers
[05:45] <Bergerag> lxd is propably very nice i gather
[05:45] <Bergerag> maybe i should study about lxd
[05:57] <rfm>  Bergerag lxd, like anything else, has limitations but if you can live within them (I can) it;s great. For what I'm doing (running different versions of Ubuntu) I  could even get by with lxd containers ...
[05:58] <Bergerag> hmm but what of them would be the easyest to handle and upkeep ?
[05:58] <Bergerag> iam talking about just basic services like ssh vpn www and maybe even remote desktops
[06:01] <rfm> Bergerag, that sounds like within lxd's capabilities.  I tried both libvirt and lxd a while back and found lxd much quicker to get going with.
[06:02] <Bergerag> ok
[06:02] <Bergerag> that is what im gonna study
[06:02] <Bergerag> is it much different than kubernetes ?
[06:02] <Bergerag> except the console connetion of course
[06:08] <rfm> Bergerag, never used k8s so I can't compare.  
[06:35] <patdk-lap> openvz is basically what lxc/lxd was created from
[06:36] <patdk-lap> lxd/docker/k8s are much the same, just totally different management and control systems
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[15:54] <MTecknology> dbungert: Is there any way to tell the installer to reboot at the end?  My current instructions have a screenshot that says, "THE INSTALLATION IS NOT **ACTUALLY** COMPLETE WHEN IT SAYS IT IS FINISHED!!!" with a screenshot of it showing that it finished, and then another screenshot showing my echo line that says it's actually ready to "Finish". I tried to just insert a reboot, but then some final required setup seemed to get missed.
[15:56] <dbungert> MTecknology: are you doing interactive installs?
[15:57] <dbungert> and remind me the oldest iso you're trying to support please
[15:59] <MTecknology> dbungert: I want it to be non-interactive, but that's not possible because a hostname needs to be provided. I'm using 20.04.6
[16:01] <MTecknology> Another issue I'm having is that it prompts before overwriting disk and I want it to skip that ... and skip the media removal prompt
[16:03] <dbungert> format prompt: https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/explanation/zero-touch-autoinstall.html
[16:03] <dbungert> media removal prompt is outside subiquity, not sure what one would do about that
[16:03] <MTecknology> I'm providing "autoinstall" in my ds=[...] addition
[16:04] <dbungert> in ds=?  it's a distinct kernel command line arg
[16:04] <MTecknology> "autoinstall ds=nocloud-net\;s=https://[...]/ubuntu2004/"
[16:13] <MTecknology> Is there something I missed; is there more to it than just adding autoinstall?
[16:14] <dbungert> no that really should do it.  I'm testing the case for your first question
[16:14] <MTecknology> I can reshare the current autoinstall file if my old links expired.
[16:16] <dbungert> is ok, I wrote one that should show the problem and I saved the autoinstalls you linked for later thinking about how to make things smoother
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[16:17] <MTecknology> :D
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[16:59] <dbungert> MTecknology: no particular workarounds to suggest.  I guess the problem you're hitting is that you want Subiquity to not show as "complete" until both upgrades and late-commands are done, is that about right?
[17:00] <MTecknology> It's late-commands that I want to complete, because that's what sets up the firstboot stuff that takes over the rest of setup.
[17:02] <MTecknology> Is there different behavior with updates disabled/enabled?
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[17:15] <dbungert> MTecknology: a bit - there are a couple triggers for that button to be labeled "Reboot Now" and one is when unattended-upgrades is running, but that's not quite correct when late-commands are present.
[17:25] <MTecknology> I guess that works then; just move updates into late-commands and disable updates.
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[18:10] <MTecknology> dbungert: oh ... there's no option to disable that, is there?
[18:10] <MTecknology> only security or all?
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