[05:23] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/pkg-kde-tools-merge
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:47] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> @Eickmeyer your systray issue identified @ got fixed with the latest update?
[18:01] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> @Eickmeyer do you happen the systray issue identified @ got fixed with the latest update?
[21:24] <valorie> I filed my failed upgrade to the beta, and LP routed it to "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" 
[21:25] <valorie> in particular, my son Thomas called out pulseaudio & pipeware both being installed, and said that probably I would be unable to purge one or both of them
[21:26] <valorie> before trying the upgrade again
[21:27] <valorie> if it is not fixed before release, I'll wait and if necessary do fresh install a week or two after release; it's just my travel computer, so the delay is not important
[21:28] <valorie> should I report the Bug# in the QA tracker? it is +bug/1015567
[21:29] <valorie> I know we do not support upgrades the beta, but this should be fixed before release or it will bite us
[21:30] <valorie> apt log and main log I can send along if necessary
[22:33] <eugenesan> Hi all. I wonder why plasma session (plasma-workspace-wayland) is not installed by default on Noble images?
[22:42] <mparillo> I think for the same reason that vim is not installed by default (or was not last I checked). If it is installed, it will present a drop-down on the SDDM screen. Better to avoid confusion for those who don't know what this is for. Those who know can simply install it.
[22:44] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Please do. Thanks! (re @IrcsomeBot: <valorie> apt log and main log I can send along if necessary)
[22:46] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> It is still not supported for us. Those that want to 'try' it are welcome to install it. We will be working on Wayland by default next release. (re @IrcsomeBot: <eugenesan> Hi all. I wonder why plasma session (plasma-workspace-wayland) is not installed by default on Noble images?)
[22:48] <eugenesan> I see. I am asking because fractional scaling is not working under X11 and many users with newer machines will be confused. Maybe there should be a note on display settings or release notes.
[22:51] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> It is already stated in our release notes
[22:51] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NobleNumbat/Beta/Kubuntu#Plasma_Wayland_session
[22:54] <eugenesan> RikMills Great!. Thanks.
[22:55] <valorie> @sgmoore how about I write about it to the kub devel ML and attach the files there? Or would you rather I just send it to your email.
[22:59] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> My email will work perfectly. I will look at fixing it when I am inevitability up in the middle of the night unable to sleep haha. Thank you!
[23:04] <eugenesan> Another topic. I've added systemd-boot support in calamares / calamares-settings-ubuntu. I understand that there are no immediate plans to use it in Kubuntu but I wonder if anyone is interested in taking a look for future reference?
[23:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Eickmeyer> Haven't checked. Driving home from Texas. (re @myfenris: @Eickmeyer do you happen the systray issue identified @ got fixed with the latest update?)