[14:51] <ComputerTech> Updated to Ubuntu 24.04 beta, but the Gnome Camera App keeps giving the error: "Could not play camera stream"
[14:51] <ComputerTech> Any ideas?
[15:00] <tomreyn> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/snapshot/-/issues/134#note_2078306
[15:00] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Issue 134 in GNOME/snapshot "'Could not play camera stream'" [Closed]
[15:02] <tomreyn> if you can file a bug on this on launchpad, there's a chance this could get fixed before release
[15:02] <tomreyn> apparently the issue is with pipewire
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> there exists a bug already tomreyn ComputerTech 
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> bug #2060390
[15:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2060390 in gnome-snapshot (Ubuntu) "Snapshot No Camera Found" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2060390
[15:36] <tomreyn> that's "could not play camera stream" vs. "no camera found", though. those *may* be related, but i assume the root cause would differ.
[15:38] <tomreyn> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3959 vs https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3960
[15:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Issue 3959 in pipewire/pipewire "Camera format negotiation regression on 1.0 branch (not on master)" [Closed]
[15:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Issue 3960 in pipewire/pipewire "Snapshot doesn't recognize cameras on Ubuntu" [Opened]
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> im getting same warning as ComputerTech 
[15:40] <tomreyn> so that's upstream 3959
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> https://dpaste.org/8NMKW
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> so i should file a new one right tomreyn ?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> or wait until fixed upstream?
[15:50] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: my understanding is that it's always good to have a tracking bug for upstream bug reports, so the need to get these patches into ubuntu isn't overlooked. (the upstream bug report discusses a new pipewire release fixing this issue to be likely happening on Monday. and bug 2059726 might be the same issue - though i have not compared the trace)
[15:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2059726 in gnome-snapshot (Ubuntu) "GNOME Snapshot doesn't show webcam image" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2059726
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: getting something similar; https://dpaste.org/a8fF6
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> my version of gnome-snapshot differs though
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> but it looks like the same bug
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> gnome-snapshot:
[15:53] <lotuspsychje>   Geïnstalleerd: 46.0-1ubuntu2
[15:58] <tomreyn> i'm sorry, i'm a bit sick today and not really in thhe mood for debugging. also hardly qualified.
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> dont worry tomreyn ill update bug 2059726 pretty sure its the same
[15:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2059726 in gnome-snapshot (Ubuntu) "GNOME Snapshot doesn't show webcam image" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2059726
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> updated tomreyn ComputerTech 
[18:12] <rfm> Strange but reproducible behavior on Xubuntu noble in a VirtualBox VM.  First login after boot fails, pops back to greeter with lots of "can't access X server" errors in .xsession-errors.  Second login *almost* succeeds except for the vbox clipboard manager; restarting that works.  It's like a timing error, where the session startup is running before Xorg is completely initialized.
[18:13] <rfm> by the second start up, things are warmed up and Xorg gets going quicker.  Can't figure out where I should report this.
[19:35] <rfm> well, I chose xfce4-session to file the bug  2061246
[21:44] <rfm> and it appears to be just xorg crashing, not some weird race condition after all, duped to #2061245 which is GNOME-on-Xorg