[00:58] <MTecknology> OOOOH!!!!
[00:59] <MTecknology> dbungert: Apparently some essential stuff depends on systemd-timesyncd and removing it on a fresh minimal install results in removing things that ultimately remove init and systemd-sysv.
[01:02] <MTecknology> "apt purge timesyncd" -> "The following will be installed: libnetplan0 libsystemd0  &  Removed: dbus-user-session friendly-recovery init libnss-systemd libpam-systemd modemanager netplan.io network-manager network-manager-pptp plymouth plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv systemd-timesyncd ubuntu-standard udisks2  &  Upgraded: libnetplan0 libsystemd0" 
[01:03] <MTecknology> dbungert: The solution in my case is to make sure chrony gets installed *first*, but that level of dependency seems pretty screwy.
[01:03] <MTecknology> especially when sysderp is supposedly a modular system.
[01:04] <MTecknology> It's basically like nginx before nginx supported dynamically loadable modules
[01:24] <MTecknology> trippeh: I think I confirmed that my xset command didn't actually do anything at all. "xset s off -dpms" and then "xset q | grep DPMS" showed it's disabled, but only temporarily.
[01:25] <MTecknology> so, the up arrow thing must have been a different hiccup