| jason | that'sgoing to break everything | 00:47 |
|---|---|---|
| jason | snapis the debian snap installer folder | 00:47 |
| jason | stop messing with things until you get a bac kupapp | 00:48 |
| jason | sudo apt install how to install Back in Time on ubuntu | 00:49 |
| jason | it'sin discovertoo | 00:50 |
| jason | kdeorgnome | 00:51 |
| jason | launch discover | 00:52 |
| jason | orsoftware | 00:52 |
| jason | depending on your distro | 00:53 |
| jason | when you get it configured run a back up then you can break things | 00:53 |
| Web_Anon | I got arch and broke it 15 times during installation | 00:54 |
| Web_Anon | it was fun fixing stuff | 00:54 |
| Web_Anon | best way to learn | 00:54 |
| Web_Anon | in a safe VM environment | 00:54 |
| jason | rofl | 00:58 |
| jason | I work with stuff everyday that can break your stuff where it can't be fixed casein point Tensorflow | 00:59 |
| jason | and nobody in #tensorflowwill talk about it | 01:00 |
| jason | we should have speech recognition in about a week. I got it working before tensorflow locked my models with a checkpoint save instead of the way I do it. Just cleaning up behind that event | 01:13 |
| jason | it definitely works | 01:14 |
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| jason | Query: joke | 01:55 |
| jason | 1/1 ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 0s 19ms/step | 01:55 |
| jason | [{'intent': 'joke', 'probability': '0.9999943'}] | 01:55 |
| jason | JENNY: It takes a lot of balls to golf the way I do. | 01:55 |
| jason | whoever thought AIs can't understand human emotions was totally wrong | 01:57 |
| arraybolt3 | jason: As a sidenote, this channel is usually used only for technical support for Kubuntu. There is #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat though. | 02:04 |
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| freeone3001 | Hi! I'm trying to get Ubuntu to boot using a wireless USB dongle. I have the drivers installed and everything works *after* boot (`route -n` is showing all routes go through the wlx iface) but during boot, systemd seems to need a network before networkmanager comes up | 03:20 |
| freeone3001 | `systemd-analyze critical-chain` shows a simple tree, `graphical -> multi-user -> ssh -> network -> NetworkManager -> dbus -> sockets -> snapd -> sysinit -> snapd.apparmor -> apparmor -> local-fs -> microk8s -> multipathd -> systemd-remount-fs -> systemd-journald -> system -> .slice`. This is ... a bit odd, since I would think microk8s would depend | 03:22 |
| freeone3001 | on network and local-fs instead of the other way around | 03:22 |
| freeone3001 | What's the best way to restructure this so that I have wifi early enough for my other boot units to recognize it? | 03:23 |
| Guest62 | E: Unable to locate package | 04:28 |
| Guest62 | E: Unable to locate package error | 04:30 |
| cole_ | hola | 06:40 |
| cole__ | hola | 06:41 |
| cole__ | 33 | 06:41 |
| cole_ | 33 | 06:41 |
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| cole_ | 33?? | 06:50 |
| lotuspsychje | can we help you cole_ ? | 06:52 |
| dabbler_ | I'm trying to upgrade from lunar to mantic but do-release-upgrade refuses because it incorrectly thinks I have too little space available in /boot. If I pre-installed the latest kernel from the mantic repo, would it skip that check? | 06:53 |
| lotuspsychje | thats not reccomended anymore dabbler_ lunar is eol | 06:53 |
| cole_ | hola | 06:54 |
| cole__ | holaaaa | 06:54 |
| cole__ | zorra | 06:54 |
| cole_ | 33 | 06:54 |
| toddc | !es | 06:54 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 06:54 |
| EriC^^ | dabbler_: sounds odd, what is the space in /boot? | 06:54 |
| EriC^^ | could you pastebin "df -h" ? | 06:54 |
| dabbler_ | lotuspsychje: yes, it's EOL. hence my wanting to upgrade out of it | 06:55 |
| lotuspsychje | dabbler_: upgrading from an eol release is risky due !usn security issues, clean install would be wiser | 06:55 |
| EriC^^ | if you pastebin the error it's giving you it might give a clue as to if the idea would work | 06:55 |
| dabbler_ | EriC^^: It is odd. it's a bug seemingly specific to a non-default btrfs option used in my /boot. It reports half the actual amount of space. | 06:56 |
| EriC^^ | oh | 06:57 |
| dabbler_ | EriC^^: here's the error: https://pasteboard.co/c0c00d891bNJ.png | 06:59 |
| dabbler_ | the relevant line of `df -h`: /dev/sda2 256M 72M 178M 29% /boot | 07:01 |
| dabbler_ | actual numbers are double (except the %, obvs) | 07:02 |
| dabbler_ | lotuspsychje: I appreciate the warning, but it's a risk I'll have to take | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | its your system dabbler_ : ) | 07:04 |
| EriC^^ | dabbler_: is it easy to expand the space? | 07:07 |
| dabbler_ | I wish :( | 07:07 |
| EriC^^ | how about reversing the non-default option? or some workaround so it reports correctly? | 07:08 |
| dabbler_ | unforunately it's an option that can only be set when the fs is created. I think it's mixed_groups | 07:10 |
| dabbler_ | without that option there's too much overhead space wasted for multiple kernels to fit in the 512 MB fs | 07:11 |
| EriC^^ | i see | 07:12 |
| dabbler_ | can you think of any clever ways of remounting it that would make it appear larger without interfering with the upgrade process? | 07:13 |
| dabbler_ | maybe a union mount? | 07:15 |
| EriC^^ | i wonder what would happen if you unmount it | 07:16 |
| dabbler_ | just momentarily when it's checking the space or for the whole upgrade process? | 07:17 |
| EriC^^ | just when it's checking | 07:17 |
| EriC^^ | but then i wonder if apt would fail later on the kernel install | 07:18 |
| dabbler_ | I'm happy to try it, but I'm not sure how to get the timing right | 07:18 |
| dabbler_ | It seems cleaner to first try to pre-install the right kernel beside my existing one and see if it skips the check | 07:19 |
| EriC^^ | maybe try first your idea to install the kernel manually and see how that goes, who knows it might just not complain a the start | 07:19 |
| dabbler_ | EriC^^: do I want the latest from mantic or mantic-updates? | 07:23 |
| dabbler_ | not sure which it tries to install | 07:24 |
| EriC^^ | !info linux-image-generic mantic | 07:24 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (6.5.0.28.28, mantic): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 10 kB / 16 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) | 07:24 |
| EriC^^ | you want the above dabbler_ ^ | 07:24 |
| dabbler_ | thanks | 07:24 |
| dabbler_ | that's weird. https://packages.ubuntu.com/mantic/kernel/linux-image-generic shows 6.5.0.27.27 | 07:26 |
| dabbler_ | in mantic-updates it's .28.28 | 07:27 |
| dabbler_ | I guess !info combines the two then. I'll add both to my sources.list | 07:28 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 07:31 |
| dabbler_ | it wants to upgrade linux-libc-dev :-/ | 07:33 |
| spiderjoker | salve | 07:35 |
| dabbler_ | EriC^^: would that cause trouble given that I'm running a 6.2 kernel right now? | 07:35 |
| spiderjoker | blender canal ??? | 07:38 |
| dabbler_ | spiderjoker: https://developer.blender.org/docs/handbook/communication/chat/ ? | 07:40 |
| spiderjoker | <dabbler_> thanks | 07:41 |
| EriC^^ | dabbler_: sorry back, no idea | 08:02 |
| nomicon | I have a question regarding packaging of .deb. Will the directories inside my package be created automatically if they do not exists? Or do I need to specifiy shell commands in DEBIAN/preinst ? | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | nomicon: maybe the #ubuntu-devel channel might be able to help better with that | 08:10 |
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| vincejv | wtheck is going on with Ubuntu's apt repositories, im getting timeout on apt-update on my github actions runners -> Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (185.125.190.39), connection timed out | 09:48 |
| vincejv | i've rerun the thing 5times already | 09:49 |
| vincejv | Jesus: https://status.canonical.com/ no wonder.. ppa.launchpad.net Major Outage, next time i should probably subscriibe to this page's rss feed | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | vincejv: if you like, we got an rss stream of canonicals status in #techrss | 10:01 |
| vincejv | nice thanks lotuspsychje appreciate it, don't know about this | 10:02 |
| FKAShinobi | When using ZFS, if the zpool is set to ashift=0 then what is the default value? | 10:13 |
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| geirha | Hm. That page has some translation errors | 10:28 |
| geirha | apparently some third party thing, so not translatable via launchpad. They probably just run it through google translate | 10:36 |
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| lang | we're seeing issues downloading packages from both security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com | 10:44 |
| lang | the initial SYN-ACK response comes quickly, but once the HTTP GET is sent things just stall from the archive side. | 10:45 |
| lang | eg. downloading http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc-bin_2.31-0ubuntu9.15_amd64.deb from 91.189.91.83:80 | 10:48 |
| ice9 | guys please check this bug and if you are affected, please join it so it's get more people and eventually more attention by the developers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/2039543 | 11:22 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2039543 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "Miss placed Hexchat icon when switching workspaces" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 11:22 | |
| ice9 | it happens to different apps, not just Hexchat btw | 11:22 |
| lang | we're no longer seeing issues reaching the archives. | 11:23 |
| ice9 | lang, I confirm it's still not fixed until today in 24.04 with the latest update | 11:23 |
| lang | ice9: this was wrt. downloading packages from (archives|security).ubuntu.com | 11:24 |
| Xeroine | Hi, I've got a PC they want me to try and fix in my internship, I'm at home right now and don't have access to it but I just wanted to ask for some advice about the issue. The PC shows in /etc/os-release that it has jammy (22.04 LTS) on it currently and I found some old eoan (19.10) repositories which must have been left over from an upgrade in /etc/apt/sources.list which I removed and kept only | 12:14 |
| Xeroine | jammy repositories. Apparently after an upgrade it started getting a kernel panic on boot https://x0.at/2y2L.jpg from that I'm guessing the root cause is that something went wrong during the upgrade involving glibc. I mounted the root partition and chrooted in to it, checked the installed glibc version and tried to upgrade again. I don't have the output of these commands (forgot to take pics before | 12:14 |
| Xeroine | leaving) but basically, from what I recall, the installed glibc was 2.30 and when trying to upgrade or install anything using `apt` it complained about glibc, I think it said it was too old and that the packages required a newer version. I understand glibc is kind of annoying/hard to install manually to some other version system wide, I've never had to deal with this, I've been using debian and the | 12:14 |
| Xeroine | updates have been smooth so any advice on what to try? | 12:14 |
| Xeroine | I know we could just get the data we need off from the root partition and reinstall but I wanted to try resolving this. | 12:14 |
| Xeroine | I think if I compiled, or more likely, cross-compiled glibc since that system will probably be missing some build dependencies and then try to install that glibc into /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu it would be able to possibly boot but that's probably not gonna go smoothly and apt doesn't fix the problem with `apt` | 12:22 |
| Xeroine | and that doesn't fix* | 12:22 |
| ioria | Xeroine, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/ ; livecd -> chroot -> download required pkgs; install them | 12:26 |
| Xeroine | oh right I can just download the package | 12:27 |
| Xeroine | thanks, I'll try that | 12:27 |
| ioria | ok | 12:27 |
| iconoclast_hero | i was looking at something on an forum.opensuse post that eluded to the existance of # systemctl status rtkit-daemon | 12:56 |
| iconoclast_hero | the solution to the problem required modifying /etc/security/limits.conf and I assume that those changes will require a restart in the real-time scheduling daemon. | 12:57 |
| iconoclast_hero | is there an analagous daemon in ubuntu and if so, how to restart it and/or make the changes to `limits.conf` active? | 12:57 |
| iconoclast_hero | https://forums.opensuse.org/t/help-please-music-player-daemon-and-real-time-scheduling-alsa-audio-output/153962 | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | it should be preinstalled ... the package is called rtkit | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | (but afaik it is only used by pulseaudio, newer ubuntu uses pipewire, not sure that actually needs that daemon still) | 12:59 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: that bug already got a lot of affects, see the bug daniel refers toward contains the upstream bug | 12:59 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: did you file bug #2062538 ? | 13:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2062538 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng (Ubuntu) "Clicking the top bar shows desktop icons above app window" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2062538 | 13:03 | |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:12 |
| lubuntu | hi | 14:07 |
| tariq | nice | 14:19 |
| tariq | ok | 14:19 |
| tariq | ko | 14:19 |
| iconoclast_hero | ogra_: i'm using pulse for things. | 14:37 |
| iconoclast_hero | ogra_: but i don't think i'm using it on that machine per se... mpd's got it's own pulse output module and that's being set to a sink on my laptop over TCP so I don't think the local pipe/pulse server gets involved. | 14:39 |
| iconoclast_hero | i was just looking to see if there was a way to address the error i was seeing in the mpd output. | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | well, then rtkit should also only apply to your laptop | 14:39 |
| iconoclast_hero | in terms of any ALSA effects such as the OP was talking about in the post I assume, however, MPD is still throwing errors on the server side | 14:40 |
| iconoclast_hero | event: RTIOThread could not get realtime scheduling, continuing anyway: sched_setscheduler failed: Operation not permitted | 14:40 |
| ogra_ | if you changed limits.conf i think it only applies after a reboot ... | 14:41 |
| iconoclast_hero | ok | 14:41 |
| iconoclast_hero | then i'll look after i reboot | 14:41 |
| vincejv | I still keep getting 14.46 E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz File has unexpected size (2018947 != 2018948). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.189.91.83 80] | 14:41 |
| vincejv | even tho ubuntu canonical health says everything's operational?? | 14:41 |
| iconoclast_hero | thank you | 14:41 |
| vincejv | it's happening on my github runners when doing apt-update | 14:42 |
| ogra_ | vincejv, perhaps the people in #launchpad knwo more | 14:43 |
| vincejv | do i need to get a ubuntu pro subscription to get this thing working? lol | 14:43 |
| ogra_ | indeed not | 14:43 |
| ice9 | how to install Davinci Resolve on Ubuntu 24.04 since some packages names have changed: | 15:11 |
| ice9 | selecting 'libapr1t64' instead of 'libapr1' | 15:11 |
| ice9 | selecting 'libaprutil1t64' instead of 'libaprutil1' | 15:11 |
| ice9 | and there is no package with name 'libasound2' | 15:12 |
| arraybolt3 | ice9: Davinci Resolve probably won't support Ubuntu 24.04 until after its released. Right now it's still in beta. Perhaps fall back to 22.04 and then upgrade once 24.04.1 is out? | 15:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | ice9, Also, that's a question to ask Davinci Resolve support channels | 15:19 |
| iconoclast_hero | is there any reason i couldn't send a command from THE nfs/sshfs server to THE nfs/sshfs client to tell it to umount -l everything as part of a shutdown script so that my guake stops hanging everytime i reboot my server? | 15:19 |
| iconoclast_hero | well... `sudo umount -l -a -t nfs,sshfs` | 15:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | I didn't know a server could issue such commands over nfs. Assuming it does, sending the `-l` is lazy unmount, which says unmount when the resource isn't busy. If you have an active application leveraging something from that resource, it's not going to unmount | 15:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | no, i sent it over ssh | 15:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | that makes more sense | 15:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | it worked insofar as i mounted something, issued the command, and guake didn't crap out | 15:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | nothing was using the resource | 15:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | I don't know why guake would care about a mount. seems rather odd | 15:29 |
| iconoclast_hero | think i need to add -f to that list then? | 15:29 |
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| iconoclast_hero | i don't know, don't care, just don't want my it to happen anymore!! | 15:29 |
| iconoclast_hero | this seems the path of least resistance, plus, the server's going down anyway, might as well try to unmount them becasue i never remember to do it. | 15:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | right now I'd try removing the `-l` from the options first... if it still hangs, then maybe try with `-f` | 15:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | still getting hangs, then it's an issue with guake | 15:30 |
| iconoclast_hero | well, i think i went the other way... i started using it without anything and added -l | 15:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | Kind of suspect it's an issue within guake | 15:31 |
| iconoclast_hero | what i've been doing: forget to unmount, reboot, guake locks up, i have to launch a terminal, maybe can see what i'm doing, if not, have to drop to a TTY, then tell it to umount -l... | 15:32 |
| iconoclast_hero | yeah, well, since i can't fix guake, again, path of least resistance. | 15:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | other than part of your remote command doing a force kill on guake processes, and the restarting it... guake has lots of strange behaviors and hangs | 15:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | I stopped using it when it would hang when I issued a reboot command to the system | 15:34 |
| iconoclast_hero | yeah, i think i looked for a replacement for 30 minutes but it does most everything i want so i've satisficed on it. | 15:35 |
| iconoclast_hero | an issue for another time. | 15:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | sorry couldn't be of more help :( | 15:35 |
| iconoclast_hero | but i can put an ssh command in a systemd shutdown script? | 15:35 |
| iconoclast_hero | that;s really what i'm after...and how to ignore errors... | 15:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | almost wonder if something like ansible might be something better suited to helping you manage these things | 15:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/posix/mount_module.html | 15:38 |
| iconoclast_hero | oh... | 15:39 |
| iconoclast_hero | his is because services are stopped on shutdown in pretty much the opposite order as they were started – if your unit needs networking to be available, it should have After=network.target, so that it gets started after network, but stopped before network. | 15:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | that would be an important thing | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | nework.target is wrong, this is just the networking stack (mainly loopback) but wont tell anything about devices being online | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | (IIRC there is an "network-online.target" ...) | 15:44 |
| iconoclast_hero | https://superuser.com/questions/1701476/how-can-i-have-my-service-be-the-first-service-to-begin-stopping-on-system-reboo | 15:45 |
| iconoclast_hero | so there's another target besides network.target? | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:48 |
| iconoclast_hero | what about just using runlevel6.target | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | because network.target only means all protocols are loaded and your loopback is up (so i.e. dbus can use it etc) | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | there is a network-online.target you should be able to use that will only fire once there is a working connection | 15:50 |
| iconoclast_hero | i understand what you're getting at, but if i run the ssh command at the highest runlevel, then it should be executed first as the shutdown goes down the runlevles? | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | systemd hs never and doesnt use runlevels ... you should use shutdown.target for things you want at shutdown | 15:50 |
| iconoclast_hero | never? | 15:56 |
| iconoclast_hero | $ ll /usr/lib/systemd/system/runlevel* | 15:56 |
| iconoclast_hero | lrwxrwxrwx - root 5 Apr 01:38 /usr/lib/systemd/system/runlevel6.target -> reboot.target | 15:56 |
| iconoclast_hero | anyway, i found what you were talking about with the network-online.target here: | 15:57 |
| iconoclast_hero | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1449198/running-a-script-at-shutdown-before-networking-goes-down | 15:57 |
| iconoclast_hero | and i can patch this together, thanks for the tip. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | 👍 | 15:58 |
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| rollappuser | k1tten | 17:27 |
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| vadim_ | interesting | 23:01 |
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