[06:54] <rayfun> Hi, why does apt not install the latest version here and how can I change this behaviour?
[06:54] <rayfun> axel@lyra:/var/www/html/vhosts$ apt-cache policy phpmyadmin 
[06:54] <rayfun> phpmyadmin:
[06:54] <rayfun>   Installed: (none)
[06:54] <rayfun>   Candidate: 4:4.9.5+dfsg1-2ubuntu0.1~esm1
[06:54] <rayfun>   Version table:
[18:13] <ice9> which diagram type is the most suitable for documenting server's services and architecture?
[18:18] <oerheks> dia, the software itself is created for such task
[18:21] <tomreyn> (cross posted to at least #linux and #debian, as usual)
[18:23] <oerheks> sorry for my brainfart
[20:05] <znf> Has anyone tried to patch an Ubuntu kernel with Google's BBRv3 ?
[20:10] <ice9> sorry tomreyn for cross posting, because I usually wait for hours to get a response if posted in a single channel, sometimes when I need a quick response (for a reason) I do that; but yeah, that's not good!
[20:22] <JanC> at the very least it's better if you mention that you posted it elsewhere before; people can check to see if they aren't going to do useless work then...
[21:22] <znf> so, nobody ever tried to BBRv3 on top of an ubuntu kernel? :(
[22:18] <patdk-lap> dunno about bbrv3, just using whatever bbr is in linux 6.5
[22:19] <JanC> Google promised to upstream BBRv3 "ASAP", so it will be in Ubuntu once they do that   :)
[22:23] <patdk-lap> make a dkms package :)
[22:31] <Odd_Bloke> I'm not really sure where to report this, but I'm seeing archive.ubuntu.com blocked in India with a link to http://www.airtel.in/court-orders/
[22:31] <sarnold> "Hon’ble Court."
[22:31] <sarnold> well that's one way to not look up how to spell "honorable"
[22:32] <patdk-lap> Odd_Bloke, your isp?
[22:36] <Odd_Bloke> Google suggests that's an official form of address for the Indian Supreme Court (but their website didn't load, somewhat ironically).
[22:37] <patdk-lap> just dont use your isp's dns server
[22:37] <patdk-lap> I just run my own pulling from the roots
[22:37] <patdk-lap> not sure if googles dns would follow .in stuff or not
[22:37] <patdk-lap> I doublt 9.9.9.9 would
[22:39] <Odd_Bloke> `curl -H "Host: archive.ubuntu.com" 91.189.91.83` hits the issue, so I don't think it's DNS hijacking.
[22:40] <patdk-lap> oh, they are doing route blackholing
[22:40] <patdk-lap> effective, but I rarely see it done
[22:41] <patdk-lap> any other ips? outside of uk?
[22:41] <patdk-lap> 185.125.190.36 maybe?
[22:41] <Odd_Bloke> Same result.
[22:41] <patdk-lap> still in uk, heh
[22:42] <patdk-lap> you could point to my apt-cache-ng server if you wanted?
[22:42] <sarnold> Odd_Bloke: what dns recursors or forwarders are you hitting? what IP addresses does it reply?
[22:42] <patdk-lap> he did a stright http connect to the right ip, still no go
[22:42] <sarnold> ohhhhh
[22:43] <tomreyn> https could help there, if available
[22:43] <patdk-lap> cache.patrickdk.com:3142
[22:44] <patdk-lap> https wouldn't help
[22:44] <patdk-lap> http/https/... depends on tcp working
[22:44] <sarnold> Odd_Bloke: maybe traceroutes?
[22:45] <patdk-lap> question is, local isp blackhole, or a higher country level blackhole
[22:45] <tomreyn> oh, i was thinking they replaced the website by something else.
[22:45] <patdk-lap> they did, by redirecting the ip address :)
[22:48] <tomreyn> i'll hold back on the discussion, this is not the time + place.
[22:51] <patdk-lap> must be a local isp thing, most if the in looking glasses find it ok
[22:55] <tomreyn> http://www.site24x7.com/tools/public/t/results-1713912834141.html hyderabad + new delhi (unknown isps) report response size 262 bytes (but not others in IN)
[23:33] <oerheks> http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/
[23:41] <tomreyn> someone just suggested adding http://archive.ubuntu.com/ to the global test list of citizenlab's ooni probe https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists/pull/1710/files
[23:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Pull 1710 in citizenlab/test-lists "Contribution from test-lists.ooni.org" [Open]
[23:43] <tomreyn> http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html and https://ubuntu.com/ are already on their list according to https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists/blob/master/lists/global.csv
[23:47] <JanC> Odd_Bloke: can you use other (local or non-local) mirrors?
[23:51] <JanC> I wonder what they objected to in the archives...
[23:52] <sarnold> tor or vpn would be my guess
[23:52] <JanC> huh
[23:54] <sarnold> they've been restricting internet access in the jammu and kashmir region (or whatever they're calling it these days), they might be trying to block censorship evasion tools
[23:55] <tomreyn> oh they have elections going, i almost forgot.
[23:57] <JanC> from what I can tell, the Indian justice system runs on...  Ubuntu
[23:57] <sarnold> if it runs at all?
[23:57] <sarnold> what I hear about it is mostly about how slow it is
[23:57] <JanC> """eCommittee, Supreme Court of India
[23:57] <JanC> Guidelines for Roll-out and Installation of Ubuntu Linux for Indian Judiciary"""
[23:58] <JanC> there are documents about them using Ubuntu in several places  :)
[23:59] <JanC> block security updates for your own systems... excellent plan  :P
[23:59] <oerheks> sarnold, this is normal in gov https://imgur.com/gallery/yZzobvd